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The Yennefer/Triss choice in TW3

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Scryar

Scryar

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#1,681
Jul 30, 2014
Well, I think there is a reason why Assire appeared in Witcher 2 and not Fringilla. Fringilla is better known through her role in the books( especially her connection to Yennefer and Geralt) and they still showed only Assire in Witcher 2. I think they wanted to keep Fringilla for Witcher 3 and wouldn't just kill her offscreen.
Besides Fringilla wasn't in Loc Muinne, so she probably has enough time to flee out of Nilfgaard.
 
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Journey_95

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#1,682
Jul 30, 2014
shawn_kh said:
You know I've been thinking,
What if Triss or Yen do not want to be with Geralt any more ?
Maybe Yen has fallen in love with some one else since she also had amnesia. Maybe Triss has gotten tired of being Geralt's second choice. Is Shani going to be in the Witcher 3 ? Is she still interested in Geralt ? Are there other datable characters ?
There are many possibilities.
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poor Geralt getting no love..
No but seriously that would piss of many players (including me) I mean they built the Triss Romance over two games
and the whole Yennefer love in the books and in the end both say no to Geralt? That would be shitty
There has to be an option !
 
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TheDespondentMind2

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#1,683
Jul 30, 2014
Guy N'wah said:
I think we're many of us guilty of assuming that it will be a choice, like sending Alvin to Triss or Shani was in TW1. Given CDPR's intentional use of delayed and unexpected consequences for seemingly unrelated decisions as a dramatic device, a Geralt+Triss or Geralt+Yennefer outcome may well be a consequence of some choice we didn't think would bear on these possibilities.
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Oh man, now you outright scared me. The Alvin Choice and the Yorveth-Rocher choice were one of the worst things I ever encountered in the games. The game forces you to choose something and the results of that have nothing really to do with the initial choice. Not to mention I couldn't give a damn about Temeria or Scoiatel and yet I have to choose.

I really really really hope that the road of Romance in W3 will be a long, hard and not so obvious one.
 
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Journey_95

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#1,684
Aug 9, 2014
so I just read the Q&A and this was very interesting:
6. Will we (as Geralt), have to choose to love Yennefer or Triss?
It’s like in real life, it’s all about choices and consequences. So, you have to choose wisely because you can end up with the wrong one.

What do they mean by wrong one? God I really hope that Triss (more likely than Yennefer) doesn't betray you or something like that
 
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GuyNwah

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#1,685
Aug 10, 2014
Journey_95 said:
so I just read the Q&A and this was very interesting:
6. Will we (as Geralt), have to choose to love Yennefer or Triss?
It’s like in real life, it’s all about choices and consequences. So, you have to choose wisely because you can end up with the wrong one.

What do they mean by wrong one? God I really hope that Triss (more likely than Yennefer) doesn't betray you or something like that
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I'd say, if they meant anything by it, any further comment would be a spoiler. But I think it's more likely to mean that your decisions end up in Geralt rejecting or allowing harm to come to a true friend.
 
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LordNu

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#1,686
Aug 10, 2014
As soon a I get this game, I am riding straight to Nilfgaard to rescue Yennefer!
 
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Nerevar.220

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#1,687
Aug 10, 2014
Journey_95 said:
so I just read the Q&A and this was very interesting:
6. Will we (as Geralt), have to choose to love Yennefer or Triss?
It’s like in real life, it’s all about choices and consequences. So, you have to choose wisely because you can end up with the wrong one.

What do they mean by wrong one? God I really hope that Triss (more likely than Yennefer) doesn't betray you or something like that
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Let´s see... she asked the witchers in Kaer Morhen to chase the Wild Hunt, something very strange. She´s hiding something from Geralt from the mirror conversation at the beginning of chapter 3. Sile knew Yenn was in Nilfgaard, which means the Lodge knew. She´s been taking advantage of Geralt´s amnesia (with a gender switch Geralt would be accused of rape by most people). Hell, refusing her at the baths gives aresistance to magic bonus, not to mention what the Rose of Remembrance is used for. If they want to do something about Triss having her own agenda concerning Geralt, there´s been quite a bit of foreshadowing.

And as part of the Lodge she´ll likely try to follow their plans concerning Ciri, which I´ll do my best to prevent.
 
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HellKnightX88

HellKnightX88

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Aug 10, 2014
I've always seen her situation as a tragic one of sorts and felt sorry for her. She used magic to get to Geralt (when he and Yen had one of their many splitups) and then she kinda fell for him. But she knows that Geralt has this obsession (some might call it unhealthy, I call it awesome) for Yennefer (who is afterall Triss' friend) and their chances of being together are slim at best.

I don't know if Triss knew about Yennefer's whereabouts since the Lodge didn't really trust her anymore. I'm not even sure the Lodge knew Yennefer's location before the final events in TW2. And if they knew would they have felt comfortable with the possible threat Yennefer's now enfeebled mind in the hands of Nilfgaard could pose to them?

I'm not 100% sure but didn't Yennefer also accept the lodge's plans with Ciri once she was safe (right before the pogrom in Rivia took place)?

Heh, I love these stories, everybody has their own views on them because nothing is black and white.
 
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JediHlaalu

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#1,689
Aug 10, 2014
Nerevar-as said:
She´s hiding something from Geralt from the mirror conversation at the beginning of chapter 3. Sile knew Yenn was in Nilfgaard, which means the Lodge knew. She´s been taking advantage of Geralt´s amnesia (with a gender switch Geralt would be accused of rape by most people). Hell, refusing her at the baths gives aresistance to magic bonus, not to mention what the Rose of Remembrance is used for. If they want to do something about Triss having her own agenda concerning Geralt, there´s been quite a bit of foreshadowing.

And as part of the Lodge she´ll likely try to follow their plans concerning Ciri, which I´ll do my best to prevent.
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THIS. I'm convinced that Triss will end up being a Fringilla figure in the 3rd game. She's been with the lodge the whole time, trying to keep you as "under control" as she can while the Lodge tries to figure out what on earth to do with Geralt (much less Ciri).

Not that I had anything against Triss before reading the books ... and not that I really have anything against her even now that I have. But it just seems like a perfectly positioned "MASSIVE OMG PLOT TWIST" that could surprise the player, force Geralt to end up with (or at least ally with) Yennefer, keep this whole "every choice you make WILL SUCK" sort of air, and still stay super true to the books.
 
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Nerevar.220

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#1,690
Aug 10, 2014
HellKnightX88 said:
I'm not 100% sure but didn't Yennefer also accept the lodge's plans with Ciri once she was safe (right before the pogrom in Rivia took place)?
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More or less. But Ciri had also accepted by that point. Now that she seems to have decided to live her own life, it´s hard to believe the Lodge will accept it, and going by past experience Triss is more loyal to it than to her friends. We shall have to wait and see, though I´m expecting Yenn is the sorceress we´ll have a rocky relationship with during the game we can get into bed close to the end.
 
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Journey_95

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#1,691
Aug 10, 2014
Jediravenclaw said:
THIS. I'm convinced that Triss will end up being a Fringilla figure in the 3rd game. She's been with the lodge the whole time, trying to keep you as "under control" as she can while the Lodge tries to figure out what on earth to do with Geralt (much less Ciri).

Not that I had anything against Triss before reading the books ... and not that I really have anything against her even now that I have. But it just seems like a perfectly positioned "MASSIVE OMG PLOT TWIST" that could surprise the player, force Geralt to end up with (or at least ally with) Yennefer, keep this whole "every choice you make WILL SUCK" sort of air, and still stay super true to the books.
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still that would be a pretty cheap way so a Geralt who likes Triss and supported her throughout all three games will be
treated the same like the Geralt who doesn't like her (rejected her in Tw1 and Tw2)
Man if that happens I will be pissed at CDPR!!
 
Scryar

Scryar

Forum veteran
#1,692
Aug 11, 2014
I know this is is a Triss or Yennefer thread, but I'm curious, who do you think would book Geralt save if he had the choice between Yennefer and Ciri?
 
HellKnightX88

HellKnightX88

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#1,693
Aug 11, 2014
I'd be tempted to say Ciri but then again the books don't really set a precedent because the situation was different. Geralt knows Yennefer is powerful, she can take care of herself. Ciri on the other hand is still a child in Geralt's eyes. Not to mention the dubious circumstances of the whole Ciri disappearance and Yennefer's apparent role in it.

I wouldn't be surprised if the game forced that choice upon you at one point... and I'm going to hate having to make it.

Nerevar-as said:
More or less. But Ciri had also accepted by that point. Now that she seems to have decided to live her own life, it´s hard to believe the Lodge will accept it, and going by past experience Triss is more loyal to it than to her friends. We shall have to wait and see, though I´m expecting Yenn is the sorceress we´ll have a rocky relationship with during the game we can get into bed close to the end.
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Yeah, but at the end she didn't really abandon them. I see it as an evolution of her character. Like you said, wait and see.
 
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Nerevar.220

Senior user
#1,694
Aug 11, 2014
scryar said:
I know this is is a Triss or Yennefer thread, but I'm curious, who do you think would book Geralt save if he had the choice between Yennefer and Ciri?
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Ciri. It´s his surrogate daughter, and it´s also what Yennefer would want him to do.
 
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sfinx

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#1,695
Aug 11, 2014
scryar said:
I know this is is a Triss or Yennefer thread, but I'm curious, who do you think would book Geralt save if he had the choice between Yennefer and Ciri?
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I think it would be the hardest decision for him (yes .. Ciri is young, daughter, who is supposed to be protected etc, but still Yen is love of his life). But Yennefer would do that "easier", she would never forgive him if he would choose her instead of Ciri.
 
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LordNu

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#1,696
Aug 11, 2014
sfinx121 said:
I think it would be the hardest decision for him (yes .. Ciri is young, daughter, who is supposed to be protected etc, but still Yen is love of his life). But Yennefer would do that "easier", she would never forgive him if he would choose her instead of Ciri.
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Yep, agreed, Ciri is also Yen's daughter, not only Geralt's. In fact, she is more so Yen's daughter than Geralt's with the relationship they built.
 
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JediHlaalu

Rookie
#1,697
Aug 11, 2014
HellKnightX88 said:
I'd be tempted to say Ciri but then again the books don't really set a precedent because the situation was different.
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True, but Yennefer and Geralt were both on the verge of committing suicide together for Ciri's sake. Both of them would save Ciri over the other, even though it would probably result in an explosive / death filled aftermath. Vengeance would be swift and bloody.
 
HellKnightX88

HellKnightX88

Forum veteran
#1,698
Aug 12, 2014
Yeah, I believe Yennefer wouldn't forgive Geralt for not choosing Ciri and vice versa.
 
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wright1978

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#1,699
Aug 12, 2014
Journey_95 said:
so I just read the Q&A and this was very interesting:
6. Will we (as Geralt), have to choose to love Yennefer or Triss?
It’s like in real life, it’s all about choices and consequences. So, you have to choose wisely because you can end up with the wrong one.

What do they mean by wrong one? God I really hope that Triss (more likely than Yennefer) doesn't betray you or something like that
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Damn don't like the sounds of that response at all. Don't want either woman as a choice described as the 'wrong one', especially as since i'm a Triss fan. Wanted equal but different consequences for both paths of choice, rather than analog good(Yen)/bad(Triss) that they seem to be implying here. Really hoping i've got the wrong drift and its implying instead that your choices in the rest of the story can mean you lose the one you love and end up with only the one you don't love.
 
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ColdKillAssassin

Forum regular
#1,700
Aug 12, 2014
Kallelinski said:
1) So it is okay that they force me to romance Triss in W2, but not Yennefer in W3? Even though Geralt already stated her love for her? Even in W2? Hell, he even made a wish to be connected to her, you can't nullify this fact.
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Exactly my thoughts.
Imo there can be a sort of forced/set up relationship with Yen in TW3, if there can be one with Triss in TW2.
Yen should have been introduced to the games-only audience way earlier anyway.
 
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