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i have a useless meme deck about putting bad cards into the opponents hand/deck over and over. purposefully putting weak cards at the top of my deck and trading them away.
 
So, I've recently came back and forcing myself to experiment as much as possible.
One of my favourite card is Johnny, so I've tried to maximize its potential, this is the deck I've come up with:

- Enslave + Damien is useful is unanswered, providing the deck the means to steal engines
- Letho can be used to copy Cahir, Damien, Stefan or Johnny depending on the situation. A double Cahir perfectly shut down MO and NR decks if not dealt with.
- Stefan + Joachim + Coup provides a powerful combo ( there's also Bribery )
- Viper mentors can be used to contest rounds as they play for an average of 7-8 points

I'm trying to make it as functional as possible, any ideas ?
 

DRK3

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So, I've recently came back and forcing myself to experiment as much as possible.
One of my favourite card is Johnny, so I've tried to maximize its potential, this is the deck I've come up with:

- Enslave + Damien is useful is unanswered, providing the deck the means to steal engines
- Letho can be used to copy Cahir, Damien, Stefan or Johnny depending on the situation. A double Cahir perfectly shut down MO and NR decks if not dealt with.
- Stefan + Joachim + Coup provides a powerful combo ( there's also Bribery )
- Viper mentors can be used to contest rounds as they play for an average of 7-8 points

I'm trying to make it as functional as possible, any ideas ?

It seems your deck is very risky, with all the high end cards being low value if their countered (Damien, Skellen, Johnny). So it does make sense to use defender, and also use many of those order cards, hopefully the opponents wont have enough counters to all.

- Why use Spring equinox? There are much better 4p choices. Im guessing its to unlock possible locked 'Elder Bears', but the problem is you have no thinning and only tutor is war council. That means spring equinox on hand will probably be a 0pt card many times. Crow's eye can also purify, its also 4p card and boosts the unit purified, so its not a 0pt play most of the times.

- Coated weapons is good when you want to clog the opponent and manipulate their deck, but your deck doesnt focus on that. So Assassinate is usually better, it can do 6/5/4 dmg, most opponents play units on the right so its usually does the same dmg as coated weapons or more. If its to be used with viper mentors, its bad if used R1/2, or your giving them good cards for later.

- Joachim for a 3rd coup de grace on Joachim? You can use Hen Gaidth sword after coup puts a joachim on 1pt for a much safer 3rd Joachim than trying to have Skellen survive to generate another coup.
 
It seems your deck is very risky, with all the high end cards being low value if their countered (Damien, Skellen, Johnny). So it does make sense to use defender, and also use many of those order cards, hopefully the opponents wont have enough counters to all.

- Why use Spring equinox? There are much better 4p choices. Im guessing its to unlock possible locked 'Elder Bears', but the problem is you have no thinning and only tutor is war council. That means spring equinox on hand will probably be a 0pt card many times. Crow's eye can also purify, its also 4p card and boosts the unit purified, so its not a 0pt play most of the times.

- Coated weapons is good when you want to clog the opponent and manipulate their deck, but your deck doesnt focus on that. So Assassinate is usually better, it can do 6/5/4 dmg, most opponents play units on the right so its usually does the same dmg as coated weapons or more. If its to be used with viper mentors, its bad if used R1/2, or your giving them good cards for later.

- Joachim for a 3rd coup de grace on Joachim? You can use Hen Gaidth sword after coup puts a joachim on 1pt for a much safer 3rd Joachim than trying to have Skellen survive to generate another coup.

Made a couple of adjustments, it surprisingly fared well against Lockdown and MO, not sure if it was just luck though.
That's the current version:
 

DRK3

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Made a couple of adjustments, it surprisingly fared well against Lockdown and MO, not sure if it was just luck though.
That's the current version:

Yeah now its looking more like the typical enslave decks, with the exception of Johnny Sarah (although they do deserve a spot there).
Including Helge is a must, if you're facing NG they will just lock it, but most other factions wont have a counter for it except Heatwave, if they use Heatwave on it its a good trade for you.
 
Yeah now its looking more like the typical enslave decks, with the exception of Johnny Sarah (although they do deserve a spot there).
Including Helge is a must, if you're facing NG they will just lock it, but most other factions wont have a counter for it except Heatwave, if they use Heatwave on it its a good trade for you.

The only problem is R1, sarah or johnny ( the last one is better ) is basically forced to come out because I often need to mix tactics and leader ability to contest point. But the Bribery + Stefan has saved me many times, often pulling 2 Kolgrims out given the quantity of Lockdown decks and with damien I often enable Enslave again and steal another engine easily.
 

DRK3

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So, those that know my gwent playstyle know i love doing meme decks deckbuilding around a single bronze card.
And there's one ive been trying to maximize its potential value for several days now, and im losing my nerves, whether its bad matchup after bad matchup, or when its good i just have bad luck.

If im not mistaken, its the HIGHEST POTENTIAL BRONZE CARD in the game. Do you know which one it is?
It's the Bear Witcher Mentor, which is actually the least played of the 4 bronze SK witcher cards added in WotW.
Because even though it has the highest potential, its extremely hard to get even close. Its max is 39 points!
On Adrenaline 3, it boosts by every damaged unit on the board, and the board has 36 slots, you need one for this card, so 35+4 base power.

Ive built entire decks around it and even then its extremely hard to get to half of that max - 20 pts. Took me like 40 matches to get it, usually on a good match it stays at 10-15.
I am using Arnachad, but no defender/sukrus/boosting as it gets countered immediately 80% of the times, which is good, since its one less counter for my big BWMentor / Giant Boar played after.

Here are some highlights:
Big BWMentor and Boar.jpg

So close to 20.jpg

21pt BWMentor - Record.jpg

If anyone manages to get a bigger one, please do share it here.
 
So, those that know my gwent playstyle know i love doing meme decks deckbuilding around a single bronze card.
And there's one ive been trying to maximize its potential value for several days now, and im losing my nerves, whether its bad matchup after bad matchup, or when its good i just have bad luck.

If im not mistaken, its the HIGHEST POTENTIAL BRONZE CARD in the game. Do you know which one it is?
It's the Bear Witcher Mentor, which is actually the least played of the 4 bronze SK witcher cards added in WotW.
Because even though it has the highest potential, its extremely hard to get even close. Its max is 39 points!
On Adrenaline 3, it boosts by every damaged unit on the board, and the board has 36 slots, you need one for this card, so 35+4 base power.

Ive built entire decks around it and even then its extremely hard to get to half of that max - 20 pts. Took me like 40 matches to get it, usually on a good match it stays at 10-15.
I am using Arnachad, but no defender/sukrus/boosting as it gets countered immediately 80% of the times, which is good, since its one less counter for my big BWMentor / Giant Boar played after.

Here are some highlights:
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If anyone manages to get a bigger one, please do share it here.
In my ursine ritual witcher deck i use it a lot.

In fact i created that meme (witcher skellige) deck and its pretty Good.

I am using UR because The provision points and i use cerys as a thinner card.

But of course, i dont have potencial targets for my other targets and there is where BWMentor shine, because i a lot of time doublr value The points of the charges (If i have 2 bwm) or If i have One i at least recovery The points i have Lost.

But, of course, they usually dont go to much tall as your pictures
 
So, those that know my gwent playstyle know i love doing meme decks deckbuilding around a single bronze card.
And there's one ive been trying to maximize its potential value for several days now, and im losing my nerves, whether its bad matchup after bad matchup, or when its good i just have bad luck.

If im not mistaken, its the HIGHEST POTENTIAL BRONZE CARD in the game. Do you know which one it is?
It's the Bear Witcher Mentor, which is actually the least played of the 4 bronze SK witcher cards added in WotW.
Because even though it has the highest potential, its extremely hard to get even close. Its max is 39 points!
On Adrenaline 3, it boosts by every damaged unit on the board, and the board has 36 slots, you need one for this card, so 35+4 base power.

Ive built entire decks around it and even then its extremely hard to get to half of that max - 20 pts. Took me like 40 matches to get it, usually on a good match it stays at 10-15.
I am using Arnachad, but no defender/sukrus/boosting as it gets countered immediately 80% of the times, which is good, since its one less counter for my big BWMentor / Giant Boar played after.

Here are some highlights:
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View attachment 11178074
View attachment 11178077
If anyone manages to get a bigger one, please do share it here.

Nice gave it also a try and first try was a win.

Actually I was starting with the bear witcher + Arnaghad + Sukrus in the beginning of WotW but was not really successful. Maybe the problem was Onslaught as a leader.
 
I`ve had one deck solely based on Bandits - to complete "play netural" quests - with a Draug twist.

This time I`ve remodelled it as Lockdown + Madoc, as some bandits play well with bombs, and it allows use of Letho on Madoc.

Decent plays against Skellige, as Bandits often target armor, and Cyprian can banish wide range of pets (Roach, Nickers, Cerys)
 

DRK3

Forum veteran
Nice gave it also a try and first try was a win.

Actually I was starting with the bear witcher + Arnaghad + Sukrus in the beginning of WotW but was not really successful. Maybe the problem was Onslaught as a leader.

If you're building your deck to make huge bear witcher mentors, its likely that your Arnachad will get a ton of Armor when played, so Sukrus isnt really helpful. In my experience Arnachad gets countered immediately by locks/heatwave/ Yen's Invo, so Sukrus wouldnt be doing anything, a defender to give an additional layer of protection would be better.

Also Onslaught seems good for this deck on paper but its just very weak. Patricidal Fury gve you instant 3 damaged units, Ursine Ritual also allows you to damage several of your units and gives you the most provisions on SK, they are the 2 i recommend for this deck.
 
If you're building your deck to make huge bear witcher mentors, its likely that your Arnachad will get a ton of Armor when played, so Sukrus isnt really helpful. In my experience Arnachad gets countered immediately by locks/heatwave/ Yen's Invo, so Sukrus wouldnt be doing anything, a defender to give an additional layer of protection would be better.

Also Onslaught seems good for this deck on paper but its just very weak. Patricidal Fury gve you instant 3 damaged units, Ursine Ritual also allows you to damage several of your units and gives you the most provisions on SK, they are the 2 i recommend for this deck.

Even went to PRO with this deck. Thanks ;)
 
Actually I was starting with the bear witcher + Arnaghad + Sukrus in the beginning of WotW but was not really successful.
Do you recall our discussion from before WotW launch when we were debating how OP Arnaghad will be in practice? :)
Turth to be told, I even feel sorry that this card does not see play in any higher tier decks. I still believe the concept is good but in a world of Viper Mentors (countering this unit 1on1) this just isn't a solid alternative.
 
Do you recall our discussion from before WotW launch when we were debating how OP Arnaghad will be in practice? :)
Turth to be told, I even feel sorry that this card does not see play in any higher tier decks. I still believe the concept is good but in a world of Viper Mentors (countering this unit 1on1) this just isn't a solid alternative.

Yeah I remember. I was thinking that Arnaghad + Sukrus kills every strategy, but I was wrong. Fortunately. :)
 

DRK3

Forum veteran
Arnachad is really interesting, but it suffers from many problems and conditions:

- current meta, where everyone is packing at least one of these (Heatwave, CoC, Yen's Invo). And the deck built around Arnachad doesnt have many baits for these cards, maybe the SK defender if its used, otherwise players will see the Arnachad coming and reserve the counter for it

- you can either build damaged units on the board or set up a defence for Arnachad with defender, sukrus, sigdrifa's rite to ressurect one of these 3. Also if you use Battle Trance's Mardroeme on Arnachad its very risky, should only be done if CoC is already played and its beyond the SK defender

-Arnachad is a card you can see coming since R1 usually. And because of the adrenaline, its possible to play around it easily, leaving your specials and units with small bodies but powerful deploy effects for when Arnachad is on, the damage he will cause will be minimal without being countered
 
set up a defence for Arnachad with defender, sukrus, sigdrifa's rite
Yeah, and I believe this part of the sentence pretty much hits the nail on the head - 4 cards for one setup, in a linear and predictable sequence. Not something you can really pull out in nowadays meta environment.
 
Well, i have made a diferent arghnad(arnghad?) deck and it wasnt so predictable.

Actually i win some matches only doing The combo and my opponent forfeiting.


But well, The Best idea its win round 1, bleeds round 2 until only 4 cards left (even If you get card disvantage), than in round 3 you Just need to put defender, sukrus and arnghad (arnaghad?) and see The card shine.

But for that your opponent can have One big removal (wich problably goes into The defender).


Also the bleed in round 2 sometimes puts removal off.

Ps: I dont use The sk scenario neither The alchemy leader (cant remember The name in english right now). As i said, my deck isrnt predictable
 
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