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This game won't be hard to "fix"

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Celebrimbor22

Celebrimbor22

Forum regular
#1
Dec 22, 2020
CP2077 is clearly a product of hurry and laziness.
I'm in the middle of a main job where you meet Panam. The reason to meet Panam is because "You don't know that land very well"...Jesus, i'm a Nomad just like her. We came from the same dust. What she know that i don't? we even walk through our starter zone. They can replace it by "Is a dangerous place".
The first excuse would be OK for a Corpo or a Street Kid, but from Nomad to Nomad is just...dumb.
 
Icinix

Icinix

Forum veteran
#2
Dec 22, 2020
The game does everything but outright come out and say;

"You should have chosen the street kid life path."
 
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Subenu

Subenu

Forum regular
#3
Dec 23, 2020
Yeah, because the badlands are just some tiny district and looks the same on every corner in Night City /s
 
StarkHelsing

StarkHelsing

Forum regular
#4
Dec 23, 2020
Subenu said:
Yeah, because the badlands are just some tiny district and looks the same on every corner in Night City /s
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Nomad V probably has more trouble dealing with Night City rather than the badlands outside of it. Yet no one is holding their hand as they go into Pacifica or something.
 
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Huzdy

Huzdy

Fresh user
#5
Dec 24, 2020
We just have to wait for the patches
 
RapkaV

RapkaV

Fresh user
#6
Dec 24, 2020
Huzdy said:
We just have to wait for the patches
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Why I'm so sceptic that patches won't make CP without disappointment? :/
 
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Wtruter

Wtruter

Fresh user
#7
Dec 24, 2020
The patches thus far have made things worse for me. Turned from a playable 60fps down to 11fps. No settings changed, just updated to 1.05 and beyond!
 
flippimonkey

flippimonkey

Forum regular
#8
Dec 24, 2020
Patches for fix bugs mean nothing to me. Literally nothing. Every game has bugs. Some more than others and they suck, but it's par for the course.

Wait! Did you expect your life choice to actually mean something? Whatever gave you that idea?

So did I. I chose Corpo cuz I thought I could be a high tech wealthy soulless human being. Even have the option so smell my own farts... Turns out I'm just like every other V out there. Just a V in the wind... VVVVVvvvvvvvvvvv....

Patches won't help this game anytime soon. Think about it. CDPR would have to get the cash and call in the whole dev team, voice actors, and writers. Then they would have to basically rework the entire game. Seriously, the entire game. The story and dialog, pretty much every game system, build new (promised) systems, and then release it as an update. Not DLC. Not an Expansion. An update. Free... Yeah. No. Given they went for the green on this one I doubt they could make a real deep sacrifice like that.

Unless they announce a drastic change in leadership and full road map of the future... Well I am not holding my breath. This is coming from a person who knows the depth of corporate greed. Hence why I play a Corpo. Difference is, I know a great product beats shenanigans every time. Trouble is great products aren't readily in abundance.

Someone needs start a CP2077 Broken Promises Support Thread.
 
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Mossa

Mossa

Fresh user
#9
Dec 24, 2020
But you not a Alocado Nomad right? And outside NC is their territory, if I understood it right, I only played through the start once.
 
Dexstrity

Dexstrity

Fresh user
#10
Dec 24, 2020
flippimonkey said:
Then they would have to basically rework the entire game. Seriously, the entire game. The story and dialog, pretty much every game system, build new (promised) systems, and then release it as an update.
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Sorry to tell you this, but the game is good. The writing is great and the gameplay is fun (though it does get stale and I wish I could do a full respec to try a new build). The bugs are the only real issue other than a few features which were promised and not delivered, though that's a bigger problem for some people than it is for others. bugs and missing features aside, if you don't like the game that's fine but it's your opinion and doesn't mean the game needs a full rework.

flippimonkey said:
Someone needs start a CP2077 Broken Promises Support Thread.
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They have
 
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Cyber.D.G.

Cyber.D.G.

Forum regular
#11
Dec 24, 2020
This game can only be "fixed" by a complete rework. From scratch. Wich will never happen.
The story is good, but you'll enjoy it only for the first time. Its very linear, and destroyes replayability.
The city is big and VERY beautiful. Especially at night. BUT dead. Its like a zombie apocalypse.
Very few good side-quests.
Other characters, after you finish their quests almost vanish from your life.

Wanted to try a second playthough, but got bored in 15 min.
 
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flippimonkey

flippimonkey

Forum regular
#12
Dec 24, 2020
Dexstrity said:
Sorry to tell you this, but the game is good. The writing is great and the gameplay is fun (though it does get stale and I wish I could do a full respec to try a new build). The bugs are the only real issue other than a few features which were promised and not delivered, though that's a bigger problem for some people than it is for others. bugs and missing features aside, if you don't like the game that's fine but it's your opinion and doesn't mean the game needs a full rework.


They have
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45 minutes of the those "few" missing features. Have fun kid. Appreciate your opinion.
 
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Dexstrity

Dexstrity

Fresh user
#13
Dec 24, 2020
flippimonkey said:
45 minutes of the those "few" missing features. Have fun kid. Appreciate your opinion.
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Oh, someone on the internet resorting to using the word 'kid' as an insult instead of just having a conversation. How original.
Not watching the video, by the way, because I don't need to to know that there are missing features. The 22-page long thread on this forum tells me as much.

As I'm sure you're well aware, the point I was actually making was that, other than the bugs, what's in the game is good. It doesn't need a full rework, more like CDPR need to take note of what needs to be added in future DLC or even Cyberpunk 2. The game was never going to live up to the hype because the expectations people had were completely unreasonable, and CDPR is largely to blame for making the game sound better than it is. It's disappointing in some ways, but that doesn't make it bad overall.
 
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tvih

tvih

Fresh user
#14
Dec 24, 2020
Cyber.D.G. said:
This game can only be "fixed" by a complete rework. From scratch. Wich will never happen.
The story is good, but you'll enjoy it only for the first time. Its very linear, and destroyes replayability.
The city is big and VERY beautiful. Especially at night. BUT dead. Its like a zombie apocalypse.
Very few good side-quests.
Other characters, after you finish their quests almost vanish from your life.

Wanted to try a second playthough, but got bored in 15 min.
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Not nearly as big a rework as you'd think. And lack of replayability really isn't an issue, for me anyway. I'm already 130 hours into the first playthrough, and don't know if I'll still manage to finish the remaining side jobs and gigs to then finish the last main job today. I have other games to play, I don't need to play CP for the rest of my life. And a good story is replayable even if it is linear. I doubt you only ever watch movies once, either. At least most people don't. Whether you want to do it several times in a row is another matter, but then we go back to my earlier point.

That said, if some of the stuff already in worked right, it'd be nicer, certainly. Complete mess of an economy, some stats not working, and the skill system doesn't quite work sensibly. While I appreciate "learning by doing" in terms of leveling a skill, getting to 20 if you want to use more than a single category type of weapon is iffy - my highest is 15, as is. Especially as the game does encourage leveling other things to get perk points etc from doing so. And of course there's being limited by the attributes at the same time. And since you "learn by doing", it's that which makes respeccing attributes mildly problematic. I suppose the way to do it within current mechanics would be that for example you had Engineering level to 20, with 20 in the Technical attribute. You respec attribute to 10, then you're automatically limited to 10 in Engineering, too. And if you respec Technical back to 20, engineering is again 20 too. But I suppose in part not being able to change attributes is CDPR's idea of "replayability." And of course, given my point about the iffiness of leveling the specific skill trees, it's even more of a chore if/when you respec attributess. Could be fixed by lowering XP requirements for leveling the trees, of course.

And of course many things could've been added or improved that were left off, but alas, at least I wasn't disappointed as much as many because I specifically decided to avoid any news and hype about the game. Unfortunate result, but not unexpected at all.

In the end the whole looter-shooter approach is my biggest gripe with the game. I don't need 1000 of the same gun, I need it once and then upgrade it with skills/cyberware. I hate inventory management in general, and this game's clunky UI makes it all the more tedious. I've spent so, so many hours looting things that in the end were entirely pointless, but of course you only find that out quite too late. Although I guess I should've learned the pattern from FO3/4 and Outer Worlds already.
 
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Abeguy2

Abeguy2

Fresh user
#15
Dec 24, 2020
Cyber.D.G. said:
This game can only be "fixed" by a complete rework. From scratch. Wich will never happen.
The story is good, but you'll enjoy it only for the first time. Its very linear, and destroyes replayability.
The city is big and VERY beautiful. Especially at night. BUT dead. Its like a zombie apocalypse.
Very few good side-quests.
Other characters, after you finish their quests almost vanish from your life.

Wanted to try a second playthough, but got bored in 15 min.
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THIS
 
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flippimonkey

flippimonkey

Forum regular
#16
Dec 24, 2020
Dexstrity said:
Oh, someone on the internet resorting to using the word 'kid' as an insult instead of just having a conversation. How original.
Not watching the video, by the way, because I don't need to to know that there are missing features. The 22-page long thread on this forum tells me as much.

As I'm sure you're well aware, the point I was actually making was that, other than the bugs, what's in the game is good. It doesn't need a full rework, more like CDPR need to take note of what needs to be added in future DLC or even Cyberpunk 2. The game was never going to live up to the hype because the expectations people had were completely unreasonable, and CDPR is largely to blame for making the game sound better than it is. It's disappointing in some ways, but that doesn't make it bad overall.
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Let me guess. You also thought The Last Jedi was good... :LOL:
 
Dexstrity

Dexstrity

Fresh user
#17
Dec 24, 2020
flippimonkey said:
Let me guess. You also thought The Last Jedi was good... :LOL:
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lolno, what a trainwreck of a movie. Only good thing about it was the cinematography, unlike Cyberpunk 2077, which has numerous good traits. People are disappointed, I get it, but that's what always happens when you get overhyped.
 
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RapkaV

RapkaV

Fresh user
#18
Dec 24, 2020
Cyber.D.G. said:
This game can only be "fixed" by a complete rework. From scratch. Wich will never happen.
The story is good, but you'll enjoy it only for the first time. Its very linear, and destroyes replayability.
The city is big and VERY beautiful. Especially at night. BUT dead. Its like a zombie apocalypse.
Very few good side-quests.
Other characters, after you finish their quests almost vanish from your life.

Wanted to try a second playthough, but got bored in 15 min.
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Same here. The moment that I understood how game's story is build I didn't even needed to finish it, just turn on my logic and VOILA you know all endings. So yeah...playing without reason in beautiful but unfortunately dead city gets boring way to fast :(
Dammit I'm so mad! I was ready to live in cyberpunk 2077 for months and months, just get lost inside and forget all other games....Not even a week guys :( And I really don't mind bugs at all
 
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