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What would be better is if the game just determined your personality by the actions you take within the game. What I definitely don't want are any roles forced upon me by simplistic choices in character creation. Background options can determine choices made in the characters past but that shouldn't hard set your story to only run in one direction. I personally wouldn't want my characters sexual orientation to pre-determine anything within the story.
"Sorry, you chose "straight" as a sexual orientation in your character creation.. now you can't seduce Ralph, the hunky librarian for information obout where the best seafood place in town is located."
"Sorry, you chose "straight" as a sexual orientation in your character creation.. now you can't seduce Ralph, the hunky librarian for information obout where the best seafood place in town is located."
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Im pretty sure you can’t pick your orientation at the start.I think it’s more fluid with dialogue choices etc
I cringed a bit
I think its interesting card they could play with this series. Modern world is just BS, we just judge everything if you watch too porn, we criticize if teens/youth shows too much skin, public sex is always out of question etc. If you bang a doll, you are out of your mind. Yeah, something good came out of dystopia.
It's not determined in CC. It's determined by your choices in game. NPCs sexual orientations are set though. Which makes sense. The player controls V's preferences, but not other characters.
EDIT: Please keep in mind this thread was made before we had many details on romance.
Fully agree with you.I think there are a lot more tolerated things in that timeline but also a lot of hate
Well, players should be able to change this stat at any time. You know, like for the classic "coming out of the closet" situation?
What if someone wants to roleplay that? Starting with a straight V, who believed all his life, that he likes the girls, and suddenly realizes, that he is gay? Or a straight female V, who realizes that she is lesbian in the middle of the game?
For this to work, the game must allow players to change the sexual orientation stat at any time they wish...
...which ultimately makes it pointless to implement such stat in the first place
Damn if keanu wants more than a bromance....i go for itWell, players should be able to change this stat at any time. You know, like for the classic "coming out of the closet" situation?
What if someone wants to roleplay that? Starting with a straight V, who believed all his life, that he likes the girls, and suddenly realizes, that he is gay? Or a straight female V, who realizes that she is lesbian in the middle of the game?
For this to work, the game must allow players to change the sexual orientation stat at any time they wish...
...which ultimately makes it pointless to implement such stat in the first place
id love the ability to set my sexuelity at char gen, so that the game reacts appropriatly with acknowledgement, interesst, disgust, love & hate (as appropriate for the npc).
So that as a gay man i will never wake up or are able to romance with a woman, that as a hetero transwoman, a lesbian or bisexual wonder ^^ my options and reactions to me in the games will be appropriate.
if someone´s desire is to bone everyting and everyone that is an option & you do you. But that shit is not like your haircolor that you can change on the spot - if i missed something and that is possible in cp2077 hit me up: beeing a bisexuell wonder or cap jack harkness pan spectacluarniss would be THE titts!
and with the possibilty to change your actual gender (but not your sexuell preference as far as i know) nearly on the spot in cp 2077 there is so much to explore, to rp that it is just much much easier to program to have it as a trait.
But then what the fuck do i know?
So that as a gay man i will never wake up or are able to romance with a woman, that as a hetero transwoman, a lesbian or bisexual wonder ^^ my options and reactions to me in the games will be appropriate.
if someone´s desire is to bone everyting and everyone that is an option & you do you. But that shit is not like your haircolor that you can change on the spot - if i missed something and that is possible in cp2077 hit me up: beeing a bisexuell wonder or cap jack harkness pan spectacluarniss would be THE titts!
and with the possibilty to change your actual gender (but not your sexuell preference as far as i know) nearly on the spot in cp 2077 there is so much to explore, to rp that it is just much much easier to program to have it as a trait.
But then what the fuck do i know?
Well, players should be able to change this stat at any time. You know, like for the classic "coming out of the closet" situation?
What if someone wants to roleplay that? Starting with a straight V, who believed all his life, that he likes the girls, and suddenly realizes, that he is gay? Or a straight female V, who realizes that she is lesbian in the middle of the game?
For this to work, the game must allow players to change the sexual orientation stat at any time they wish...
...which ultimately makes it pointless to implement such stat in the first place
It could potentially provide an interesting way to engage with real world issues, similar to how the Bloody Baron quests in the Witcher 3 touched on PTSD, alcoholism, and domestic violence.
I wonder though if homophobia still exists in the world of Cyberpunk 2077? There seems at least to be more acceptance of LGBT folks than in the real world, if the in-game corporate advertisement exploiting a trans model's body to sell a product is anything to go by. Corporations don't take risks with their advertising, so that poster would seem to indicate that acceptance of trans people has gone mainstream by 2077. That could mean there is much less social pressure for people to hide who they are.
Homophobia still exists of course because humans don’t change
In my eyes, it'll be the very, very small minority. When everybody in the world is swapping body parts out based on the time of day, their sexual desires, personal whims, gender/sex/whatever identity, etc., I imagine after a couple generations of that most of those sorts of people will be dead and gone.
I feel the same about transexualism, in the context of Cyberpunk 2077. It's one of the reason I think it's unnecessary and unreasonable to try to draw specific parallels between our world and the world of Cyberpunk. All these issues we have, with the way people handle their bodies? Nonexistent, or very few and far between, in Cyberpunk.
No, the much bigger issues are "am I going to survive the night?", "will I have enough eddies to feed my gutter-dwelling family?", and "whats the best way to murder X in cold blood?"
The Cyberpunk world has issues, but those issues are not always going to be 1-to-1 to our world (though they sometimes will be).
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It would make a certain amount of sense. Consider that 2077 is set 58 years in the future. 58 years ago it was 1961, and people were far, far less tolerant of homosexuals than today. 1961 is pre-Stonewall riots and decades before gay marriage would be legalized.
Presumably that trend toward greater tolerance would continue into 2077, to the extent that 2019 should look a bit like 1961 to the people of Night City.
I'm a bit confused about this, so tell me if I got it wrong. The game is supposed to magically tell NPC's, what V's sexual orientation is? Like, V meets an NPC for the first time, and the NPC knows V's sexual orientation by whatever the player set during CC?
That would seem... unrealistic.
The Bloody Baron worked, because the player was not directly involved, which kept the empathy intact without the sore "shoved down our throats" feeling, and it also offered the player to investigate the issues themselves, asking themselves questions, which motivated them to reveal both sides of the coin...
...but not because we were able to tick boxes for Geralt at game start like:
[ ] Alcoholic [ ] PTSD [ ] Domestic Violent
don´t know about you but 6-8 out of 10 times i spot a lgbtq+ member. how & why - because i am very familiar with em. now in 2077 i where i can have mondays a "tacco" & at thursday be back to a "hotdog" - i assume & hope that gender identy is mostly a non issue. they said in an interview that transgender (and or those that experiment in that area) people became so large a population that the coperations startet to exploit them, target them with ads and so on.
to me that concurs in a freedom to make myself visible to others - we are only a fraction of the populus so that makes it easier. i am not saying that heteros would not hit on you as they are largly oblivious to the tells but those within would be in the know. i mean with grinder, lesarion, tinder & co we are allready nearly there. and now extrapolate that in a more advanced tech enviroment.
i mean all the combat ectra is cool for the game - but i´ve i where there the social tech would be where i start. I get interesstet in other people way more often then as i wanna shot em. some goes for beeing horny. but true sometimes a dude need some lead to learn to shut the fuck up. thats why i think the npc´s should be able to tell - at least that subsection i am interesstet in i.e. lesbians spot another lesbian, gays spot gays and so on - if i am part of that subsection. like having a hetero life experiance where you can nearly allways assume that that what your interessted in is generaly also interesstet in your gender. wouldn´t that be nice...
also and pardon the language - fuck realism if it makes for a much better experince. endgame did that to great effect and cyberpunk too needs some supention of disbelive to have fun there. you have to exept the setting else your gona be very little entertained.
And to come back to traits - for some people it could make a big difference in experinceing the game and the rest has no damm downsides...
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Having a stat influencing that isn't very innovative. I would prefer having my behaviour and choices do that, it's more immersive that way.
For example, if my Twitter bio says that I'm straight, it shouldn't effect my personal relationships and experiences unless I allow that personal trait influence my situation and the entities involved. More freedom, you know.
For example, if my Twitter bio says that I'm straight, it shouldn't effect my personal relationships and experiences unless I allow that personal trait influence my situation and the entities involved. More freedom, you know.
You can always change your twitter infos after some ^^experiences^^ and that’s the way cp should do it.Maybe your character thinks he/she is straight at the beginning but figures out that’s not the case after a wild party or whatever
Stats can from 1 to 10 or how this is implemented? Takes tons of work if even one point changes something. I dont entirely get this idea. Freedom is the normal path companies takes, let players do whatever they want and players are pleased.
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