Triss Merigold (all spoilers)

[LazyBugger]

I thought you get a small scene at the very end of the main quest line with Triss before you meet a certain someone elsewhere? I'm sure I saw that play out in one of the alternate Youtube endings.

 

[DaWitcher]

Added ''Maybe a scene in the tent like the one Yen had?''

See it looks good.

Well for me i'd settle by some dialogue options to acknowledge Triss at Kaer Morhen with witchers or Yen. I'd like her to have her own dedicated arrival sequence after ugly baby at Kaer Morhen if romanced prior but not sure if they'll do that. I've accepted i'm not going to get the full presence at Kaer Morhen that would be my ultimate ideal.

Changing that kiss scene to something more appropriate that acknowledges Triss place before the entire party. Further acknowledgement from the likes of Dandelion/Zoltan would be nice but that's probably pushing it. I'm not bothered by lack of Cerys acknowledgment personally as Skellige she feels the opposite of Dijkstra who doesn't mention Yen.

A Skellige third act touching dialogue(hopefully with option to return rose) to replace well that would also take the focus off the very weak 'goodbye' is pretty essential too.

Overall i'm trying to set my expectations low, so i can appreciate the actual changed they are able to implement when they occur.

You have some very good points and the ideas of setting expectations low is a good way to approach it, but for me CDPROJEKTRED has already set the bar high so I felt it appropriate to keep the bar high.

Any other dev and I really wouldn't bother but this organization has already established a trend for doing outstanding work and that's why we were so suprise with the inconsistencies.

Honestly I think they expect that from us, they've honest with their fan base so we have to be honest with them about our request. If we are not we really can't complain later down the road.

 

[Pryce68]

There are not any act 1 inconsistencies of note imo. While i'd very much like to be able to return the rose in act 2 or 3 with an expression of love, it blooming isn't vital in my personal opinion(though i understand others want to believe in the elven myth)
Act 2 and 3 are where i expect them to focus their small tweaks, to improve the experience so that it feels that the world acknowledges the choice.

The Rose of Remembrance all dried up even if we break up with Yennefer first (I didn't romance anyone other than Triss since TW1 all the way to TW3) It doesn't make sense that the rose is dried up.

Not being able to talk to her more intimately.

The censored erotic scene.

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Added ''Maybe a scene in the tent like the one Yen had?''

Definitely.

 

[DaWitcher]

The Rose of Remembrance all dried up even if we break up with Yennefer first (I didn't romance anyone other than Triss since TW1 all the way to TW3) It doesn't make sense that the rose is dried up.

Not being able to talk to her more intimately.

The censored erotic scene.

The rose drove me nut during my first play-through. I immediately thought if I romance Triss it will automatically bloom and we could have a nice scene. I held that hope until dead world.

 

[Pryce68]

Yeah I know, and like I said, it seems pretty out of place if you romance Triss and dumped Yen, so there's no acknowledgment to me...
Why Triss would be "awaiting to hop in bed with me" if I chose her already ?

Because Ciri is around and Geralt's relationship situation is putting her under a lot of stress.

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The rose drove me nut during my first play-through. I immediately thought if I romance Triss it will automatically bloom and we could have a nice scene. I held that hope until dead world.

Me too, I was like "I didn't even do Shani's quest in TW1 or Blue Eyes in TW1 so it doesn't count as sleeping with other women". For goodness sake that was before I even gave her the rose.

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Yeah i always took it as a sort of we will update you all later, or we have something special planned but we have to keep it under wraps at the moment. Still i guess the expansions can change a lot and may add to the interactions with her.

I really hope so. I also hope Triss will be getting a second romantic/erotic scene. Funny thing is, I didn't worry about at the beginning. Now it does, for whatever reason.

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Yeah i could imagine that the best time to hand her back the rose was before the final battle....although even at the boat would work.

Before the battle. Giving it back to her blooming would be the best thing ever. It will make us feel like their love will be eternal.

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Yeah someone said that I don't remember where tho that is why I merge those two together. I think before the final battle handing her the Rose says a lot right there. On page 186 I also wrote a scene for that.

I read it and I liked it a lot. Before the battle seems like the best time to give her the rose back.

EDIT reason: Typos.

 

[wright1978]

The Rose of Remembrance all dried up even if we break up with Yennefer first (I didn't romance anyone other than Triss since TW1 all the way to TW3) It doesn't make sense that the rose is dried up.

Not being able to talk to her more intimately.

The censored erotic scene.

For me the rose legend is either a myth or subject to other factors such as separation and hence why it is already dying in TW2(Iorveth path).
Act 1 is about re-establishing the relationship which ended painfully and it does a very consistent job of this. The only real moment i can think of where i wanted a response was when dismissed the kiss.
The shadows erotic scene is an artistic choice imo I don't have an issue with. I certainly don't view it as a romance inconsistency.

 

[DaWitcher]

Because Ciri is around and Geralt's relationship situation is putting her under a lot of stress.

I think Ciri is a big girl and can handle Geralt and Triss relationship. I am sure she is not obviously to his feelings for Triss. Beside I honestly think she wouldn't care as long as he's happy.

Me too, I was like "I didn't even do Shani's quest in TW1 or Blue Eyes in TW1 so it doesn't count as sleeping with other women". For goodness sake that was before I even gave her the rose

I know what you mean. I was I shock after my first playthrough I took to the Internet to find people feeling the same way and guess what. I landed right in the first thread.

 

[Pryce68]

For me the rose legend is either a myth or subject to other factors such as separation and hence why it is already dying in TW2(Iorveth path).
Act 1 is about re-establishing the relationship which ended painfully and it does a very consistent job of this. The only real moment i can think of where i wanted a response was when dismissed the kiss.
The shadows erotic scene is an artistic choice imo I don't have an issue with. I certainly don't view it as a romance inconsistency.

I remember that from TW2: Assassin of Kings, but also keep in-mind that Triss lost the Rose, it was used by Philippa to cure/enslave Saskia and Triss was compressed as an artifact during that period of time. Also, If that's the case, how come if you choose the stimulated world import you get the rose as Wilted and if you import your own save game you can only get it as all dried up?

The scene is actually happening. Triss and Geralt are having sex during it. The camera was just pointed at a difference direction.

 

[CaptainZamzabam]

Just completed the 2nd play-through. I got the empress ending and I think I actually like it best. It seems to have the most closure and content. One of the best parts of it is you get to Triss, Zoltan, and Dandelion one last time. Although I do wish she had a bit more dialogue in the inn.

I took some 4k Triss screenshots from the late game.
Click for screens.

Spoiler

 

[Pryce68]

I know what you mean. I was I shock after my first playthrough I took to the Internet to find people feeling the same way and guess what. I landed right in the first thread.

Considering what we did in the previous thread. I'd say lots of us did. xD

 

[wright1978]

The scene is actually happening. Triss and Geralt are having sex during it. The camera was just pointed at a difference direction.

Hence why i consider it an artistic choice. They felt the shadows being thrown during it worked better so focused camera on that.

 

[Pryce68]

I think Ciri is a big girl and can handle Geralt and Triss relationship. I am sure she is not obviously to his feelings for Triss. Beside I honestly think she wouldn't care as long as he's happy.

She can, but I don't think it was easy for her. Definitely she's taking it hard enough for Philippa to talk about it of all people. It's not that Ciri hates or mind what's happening between him and Triss. It's more of "You're sleeping with my sister" feeling.

That's my personal interpretation though.

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Hence why i consider it an artistic choice. They felt the shadows being thrown during it worked better so focused camera on that.

Were you enjoying the shadows more or...

?

 

[DaWitcher]

She can, but I don't think it was easy for her. Definitely she's taking it hard enough for Philippa to talk about it of all people. It's not that Ciri hates or mind what's happening between him and Triss. It's more of "You're sleeping with my sister" feeling.

That's my personal interpretation though.

I can see that but she has to understand although Triss is like a big sister to her it's because she already had someone in the mother role. It's not like they were raise together and then Geralt started sleeping with Triss.

I think the reason it's getting to Ciri is because she don't want that friction between the people she care about and not so much the romantic relationship between Geralt and Triss. Thinks about it, the twomost important women in her life are Triss and Yen the most important man in her life is Geralt. She don't want to have to take a side between Yen and Triss and that is why I think a scene for them to hash it out and come to terms would have been great.

 

[Pryce68]

I can see that but she has to understand although Triss is like a big sister to her it's because she already had someone in the mother role. It's not like they were raise together and then Geralt started sleeping with Triss.

I think the reason it's getting to Ciri is because she don't want that friction between the people she care about and not so much the romantic relationship between Geralt and Triss. Thinks about it, the twomost important women in her life are Triss and Yen the most important man in her life is Geralt. She don't want to have to take a side between Yen and Triss and that is why I think a scene for them to hash it out and come to terms would have been great.

Your interpretation makes a lot more sense than mine. xD

 

[DaWitcher]

Your interpretation makes a lot more sense than mine. xD

I wouldn't say that, we are just exploring the situation from different angles

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Did the forums just go down for maintenance or was I the only one who experience that?

 

[msanx]

Did the forums just go down for maintenance or was I the only one who experience that?

Yeah i think they went down for a moment...

 

[Pryce68]

Did the forums just go down for maintenance or was I the only one who experience that?

Yes it did.

Yeah i think they went down for a moment...

Seeing Roche after reloading the page got to me, scared me for a second there.

 

[msanx]

Sister to Ciri, and lover to Geralt....yet could of used more interaction with both.....

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Seeing Roche after reloading the page got to me, scared me for a second there.

It is kind of funny because after my first playthrough where i let Djikstra kill him, and the offline screen popped up...i was like this is payback for what i did to him....but now after helping him i can rest easy lol

 

[Pryce68]

It is kind of funny because after my first playthrough where i let Djikstra kill him, and the offline screen popped up...i was like this is payback for what i did to him....but now after helping him i can rest easy lol

I have so much guilt toward Ves and Roche since what happened in TW2: Assassin of Kings. I remember after killing Dijkstra though that Thaler told me to come to Vizima tomorrow (I'll be welcomed as a hero) I went there a couple of days after and nothing.

 

[msanx]

I have so much guilt toward Ves and Roche since what happened in TW2: Assassin of Kings. I remember after killing Dijkstra though that Thaler told me to come to Vizima tomorrow (I'll be welcomed as a hero) I went there a couple of days after and nothing.

Yeah i went to Vizima and nothing happened, well one of those things that happened off-screen....Geralt could of taken Triss there and be welcomed as heroes....also i thought that Triss (or Yen) would mention something about Radovid's assasination.