Triss Merigold (all spoilers)

[DaWitcher]

Was there really any need to bother a dev regarding this patch when it is pure common sense the Triss fixes will take longer to implement.

Lol I think they were anxious about the patch. They should have read the preliminary patch notes.

 

[dillonethan133]

Orrrr don't answer my question guys lol

 

[DaWitcher]

Orrrr don't answer my question guys lol

Sorry what was your question again?

 

[Pryce68]

Actually it's the whole obsession about the Rose of Remembrance that scares me. I have the impression that the devs could deliver wonderful changes and fixes, if they don't include the rose of remembrance, they are the devil....

@sevean

The Rose of Remembrance is already in-game. You can find it in two conditions, either Wilted or Dried. The suggestion about the Rose is mainly based on being able to give it back to her blooming or in a living condition. It's Symbolic more than anything else. All it's going to take is to tweak the conversation where you talk to her about the Rose, giving you the option to give her the rose back. Since the two voice actors will be doing/recording more lines. I didn't see any harm in it. On the contrary, it seems a lot easier than adding Triss to Kaer Morhen before the battle and adding some new dialogues and interactions between her, Geralt, The Witchers and Yennefer.

The list remained the same. The only thing that made it look or feel bigger was discussing some of inconsistencies we grouped before separately. More than half the list is nothing but an obvious inconsistency/plot hole. We've been asked to point them out and we have. The Rose of Remembrance was one of the biggest things we fought before in our previous thread. It would be a waste to say that we don't care about having it added now. All of our effort, all of @shaedhen effort fighting for The Rose of Remembrance would go in vein.

As I said, we weren't asking for anything more than what we already have, all of what was stated in the list was stated in the first 400 pages of the thread. No one was submitting any new lists and no one was trying to scare away or alienate the developers.

But as you said, we're no writers and we obviously cannot comprehend nor compare ourselves to CDPR writers/developers. We're merely stating our suggestions about some of things that disappointed us during our game-play.

EDIT reason: Typos.

 

[zbum]

Was there really any need to bother a dev regarding this patch when it is pure common sense the Triss fixes will take longer to implement.

Agree. But it's not the only one asking.

https://twitter.com/Marcin360/status/619536795840159744

So kind to Marcin Mormot to answer both.

 

[wright1978]

Now im very close to the end of the game in my first play through, and i have picked Triss in this play through. Im waiting on the new patch to come out so i can finish it up but, do you guys think that there will be a DLC where there is more interaction with her if you picked her in the game? Like after you have beat the game? And will i be able to save the game after ive finished it and start a 2nd play through but be also able to go to my 1st play through? And ive heard the dialogue will change with Triss, you think it'll be better? I personally hope so cause in the game you dont get to interact with her much after you pick her.

I don't think the extra content would be post game. We'll have to load up an old save file and do a new runthrough.
Yes i expect the changes to make the Triss romance experience better because they've said that they want to make the consequences of the choice come across better. Don't know whether that's going to be via interaction, better reactivity to the choice, both etc.

 

[Elessarinho]

Did we have beautiful invented dialogues,except DaWitcher's аfter battle,Trireme's Pontar crossing and Msanx's about philippa and sunstone?If have,can you give me some links please).Just want to read them all)

 

[Pryce68]

EDIT reason: Double post - previous post link http://forums.cdprojektred.com/threads/51724-Triss-Merigold-(all-spoilers)?p=1831999&viewfull=1#post1831999

 

[DaWitcher]

I really thought there would be some follow-up to that letter! If they can make a scene for de-compressing random people turned into statues, they could have put in a conversation about that letter.

Same her but it's not a big deal, I guess it wrong to suggest too much.

At any rate, I certainly think that no one should submit any further suggestions on how to improve Triss' character arc or romance. At this point, it would just come across as needy and probably alienate the developers. They already know there is a problem, and they are working on it.

Agree, we already submitted enough to the dev that list wasn't for any kind of submission, it was an update for the OP. We know Ginger comes in and read this thread and Marcin said they follow everything we write.

The update was design to included everyone idea and leave it up to the dev to decide what to do. Again no one is demanding anything, I repeat no one is demandibg anything. We just didn't want to hammer down on two ideas and say screw everyone else who had something they like. Best solution was to develop a small but detail list and then let the dev be the one to decide what they are going to fix. Keep our support and don't isolate anyone. The list has 6 major points broken down in detail. Obviously that was a bad idea to try and include everyone idea, because it create a huge fuss and a scare.

I like you am a cynic about the rose myth, but for that doesn't mean it wasn't a symbol of their love, no matter the current state of the flower.But i'm happy to see what fixes they think work.

I very much agree, they should be left to work on it in peace as much as possible.

We all agree that the dev should be left to work. They know what they can and cannot do. The rose idea was lovely, although we can claim that it's just a stupid plant. Many lore fans feel the legend is legit and it adds validity to the romance choice if it blooms. Just my thoughts. Ok people jump on it hard but can you really blame them for being passionate about the game? Come on isn't that the reason why we are all here.


Hey guys I'm just trying to be a voice of reason here, although we are all Triss here, we don't alway agree on the same things and that's to be expected. What we try to do is include everyone idea that is within reason. The dev ultimately have the final say.

 

[Ash86s]

We all agree that the dev should be left to work. They know what they can and cannot do. The rose idea was lovely, although we can claim that it's just a stupid plant. Many lore fans feel the legend is legit and it adds validity to the romance choice if it blooms. Just my thoughts. Ok people jump on it hard but can you really blame them for being passionate about the game? Come on isn't that the reason why we are all here.

The Rose's idea makes sense more than anything on the list, I find it funny that people are bothered about it now, I mean... It was included as #1 with a screenshot on shaedhen previous thread. http://forums.cdprojektred.com/threads/40694-The-Triss-content-and-the-inconsistency-of-our-romance-s-choice

People disagree, it's as simple as that, more people agreed to it than people who didn't, that's why it was added to the OP in the first place, it's like the people who felt that there was enough of Triss in the game and they also said that the inconsistencies didn't bother them. Different opinions and nothing on your list or Pryce's is out of what we discussed in the previous thread, it's the people who doesn't care about the rose who should stop, because again, it was the one of the biggest things you guys fought for in the previous thread.

You guys did good pointing out the inconsistencies. The decision about fixing them is up to the developers, not us.

Thank you, love you and stay awesome! <3

 

[Elessarinho]

I think the developers also understand that the rose is a very good way to consolidate the relationship between the characters.It's the symbol of their love,like the unicorn for Yen)))

 

[dillonethan133]

I don't think the extra content would be post game. We'll have to load up an old save file and do a new runthrough.
Yes i expect the changes to make the Triss romance experience better because they've said that they want to make the consequences of the choice come across better. Don't know whether that's going to be via interaction, better reactivity to the choice, both etc.

Well I guess I'll be doing 3 play throughs since this is the first witcher i have played, granted i have read a lot about the first 2 games. I still want to do a play through with Yenn just to see how it is, my first one must be my test run haha

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Sorry what was your question again?

Now im very close to the end of the game in my first play through, and i have picked Triss in this play through. Im waiting on the new patch to come out so i can finish it up but, do you guys think that there will be a DLC where there is more interaction with her if you picked her in the game? Like after you have beat the game? And will i be able to save the game after ive finished it and start a 2nd play through but be also able to go to my 1st play through? And ive heard the dialogue will change with Triss, you think it'll be better? I personally hope so cause in the game you dont get to interact with her much after you pick her.

 

[saladin1701]

O.K., I just finished a playthrough of The Witcher 2. Here's how I played which will give you an idea of my choices:

+ I agreed to help Roche find the Kingslayer.
+ During my escape I released the La Valettes.
+ A short time after arriving in Flotsam Geralt gave Triss a Rose of remembrance.
+ They made love.
+ Geralt then agreed to walk away from the whole thing to be with Triss.
+ Triss offered to search for Yennefer with him.
+ Geralt agreed and, in a round about way, told Triss he loved her.
+ Triss was then kidnapped and from that moment onwards Geralt's only concern was finding Triss.
+ He worked with Iorveth who he felt could help him find her.
+ He searched Vergen and surrounding areas only to become convinced she was on the other side of the mist.
+ Geralt crossed a Wraith infested Mist with only one thing on his mind - finding Triss.
+ Geralt found she'd been turned in to a Statuette and been taken to Loc Muinne.
+ He lifted the curse and helped Saskia but whilst he espoused her ideals, she was a means to an end (find Triss).
+ Geralt followed Triss to Loc Muinne and there he split up from Iorveth, agreeing to search for Phillipa.
+ Whilst Iorveth wanted to find Phillipa to lift the spell from Saskia, Geralt needed her to find Triss.
+ Geralt found her in the dungeons, but refused to release her for fear it would put Triss in danger.
+ Geralt hacked his way through a Nilfgaardian camp to find Tirss chained to a wall.
+ Geralt freed Triss and asked her about the lodge.
+ Geralt believed her. He then told her he'd travelled half the world to find and free her.
+ He killed the Dragon and let Letho go and set off with Triss to find Yennefer.

At no point whatsoever in my playthrough did he agree to end their relationship. At no point whatsoever in my playthrough did they agree to go their separate ways and at no point whatsoever in my playthrough did Triss betray him. So why the bloody hell does The Witcher 3 completely contradict my playthrough when it comes to my existing relationship with Triss?

I start my The Witcher 3 playthrough, set six months after the events of The Witcher 2.

I set out from Loc Muinne six months ago with Triss and suddenly I'm with Vesemir. No explanation is given as to why.

I told Triss I wanted to be with her and gave her a Rose of remembrance as a symbol of my love for her, travel half a continent to find and rescue her only to find out we're no longer in a relationship. No explanation is given as to why.

Dandelion recites the tale through the narration of the second game, speaking of Geralt and Triss' love several times so why does everyone on the bloody planet think I'm still in a relationship with Yennefer?

I started this playthrough because I had begun to doubt myself, thinking perhaps I must have missed something. After all, I had only played the original version, not the Enhanced Edition (which I've just completed - and by the way CDPR, that's now two copies of that game I own). Honest to god I feel utterly infuriated after playing that game and seeing how all the choices I made, my decisions, my concerns, my priorities and my choices all be ignored without even the slightest explanation as to why. Where in the blazes does Vesemir come from? He was either on the path or at Kaer Morhen, the former making the chances of finding him remote, the latter being simply too far away to reach and then travel back to Nilfgaard, through war torn Tameria to pick up Yennefer's trail and follow it back North again. Sure you might try to argue Triss could open a portal but to what end? We agreed to go together and we needed to go South, not North.

Having played The Witcher 2, I had thought the story line of The Witcher 3 would make more sense but amazingly enough, it makes even less sense. It reduces the first few hours of the plot to complete and utter bollocks. Why do I get the opportunity to decide whether or not Aryan La Valette lives or dies, whether or not Síle de Tansarville lives or dies or whether Letho lives or dies yet I cannot decide whether or not I romanced Triss.

As a result, the game is fundamentally flawed in its current state. You did a marvellous job with combat, the game engine, the audio, the acting is of an extremely high calibre as is the quest system and, by and large, the story telling for all the side quests but the main quest is completely broken all because you didn't allow us to choose whether or not we'd previously romanced Triss; and while I'm on a rant, the ending is nonsensical as well. Having spent the entirety of the game trying to save Ciri from the Wild Hunt, she then buggers off to kill a snowstorm. I'd laugh if it wasn't so tragic.

 

[Will86s]

Definitely. All we ever asked for is to have those extra conversation with Triss as we do with Yennefer (In the events of romancing either one of them) having both of them interacting with you depending on whether if you romanced either one them or not would be perfect. Equality and validation for Triss as a romance option, It's really all we ever asked for. Wherever you can start a conversation with Yenenfer, we should be able to start a conversation in that area with Triss (Since she's out love-interest).

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The inconsistencies as I see them.

1. The Rose of Remembrance (Being able to give her back The Rose of Remembrance blooming/in a living condition).

2. Not being able to tell her that we broke up with Yen for good (We should be able to tell her that we broke up with Yen during that conversation where she asks about her during Pyres of Novigrad).

3. Her not being present at Kaer Morhen (She really should be there, we're missing out on the biggest part of their relationship, the reunion after going through all that trouble to find Uma/Ciri).

4. Yennefer's kiss and not being able to kiss Triss after (Yes, I wanted to kiss her after that to reassure her that nothing is going on behind her back and yes, I wanted to do in front of Yen).

5. No interaction with her upon our arrival with Ciri to Kaer Morhen (If the previous option is not provided, we really should've been able to interact with Triss, it seems only fair since we can interact with Keira before the battle).

6. Geralt running toward Yennefer to embrace one another after the battle. (Triss is my romance option, she should be the one doing that) This is optional of course, in the events of romancing Yennefer, she should be the one running toward Geralt to embrace him after the battle.

7. Ciri's conversation with the Lodge (Triss she be the one present there if she's our love-interest) This is optional and it depends on your choice of romance.

8. Triss providing more information about our house in Pont Vanis as she said she would after saving Philippa.

9. A conversation between Triss, Ciri and Geralt (To make up for her being missing during Avallac'h laboratory or just adding her there with the rest of the family).

10. A Conversation on the boat in Skellige (Being able to interact with her and do anything other than "Well?").

11. A romantic conversation with her in the tent before the final battle (It's only fair since Yennefer gets one).

12. Triss should be the one saving Geralt instead of Yennefer from The Wild Hunt hounds (After defeating Eredin and she should be the one riding with him to the tower) This is optional and it depends on your choice of romance.

13. Adding a second love/erotic scene to Triss's romance that suits whichever situation, place or moment you see fit.

At the point where all of the mentioned above is provided, we reach the point of having her as a valid romance option, we finally reached (Equality).

Explaining some of the suggestions.

The scenes I suggested replacing depending on your romance choice are three - in two of them Yennefer doesn't say anything.

6. Kaer Morhen: She's simply running toward Geralt without saying anything (The embrace part) that one must be replaced in the events of romancing Triss, I don't really see why Geralt would embrace Yennefer if he's romancing Triss (We already explained this extensively in previous posts) Optional, depends on your choice of romance.

11. Skellige: After the battle with Eredin, Yennefer jumps in to rescue Geralt by using a portal and she pulls out in-time (She doesn't talk in this one either) Optional, depends on your choice of romance.

11. Skellige: Riding to the Tower trying to rescue Ciri after Avallac'h took her (Yennefer talks in this one) she doesn't say anything that could effect the main-plot though. Optional, depends on your choice of romance.

Two of them can simply be handed by replacing the character model of who's doing the rescue or running toward Geralt depending on his romance choice.

Because I still think the one at Kaer Morhen needs replacing depending on your romance choice, there is a few logical reasons that can support my claims which we all witnessed during the battle.



EDIT reason: Update.

The list looks perfect, thank you, did you guys get anymore answers from the developers about what they're going to fix and what-not?

 

[FarrySquall]

Well I guess I'll be doing 3 play throughs since this is the first witcher i have played, granted i have read a lot about the first 2 games. I still want to do a play through with Yenn just to see how it is, my first one must be my test run haha

Now im very close to the end of the game in my first play through, and i have picked Triss in this play through. Im waiting on the new patch to come out so i can finish it up but, do you guys think that there will be a DLC where there is more interaction with her if you picked her in the game? Like after you have beat the game? And will i be able to save the game after ive finished it and start a 2nd play through but be also able to go to my 1st play through? And ive heard the dialogue will change with Triss, you think it'll be better? I personally hope so cause in the game you dont get to interact with her much after you pick her.

Just an warning, you need basic knowledge about the books and the first 2 witcher games to fully understand the story

Now im very close to the end of the game in my first play through, and i have picked Triss in this play through. Im waiting on the new patch to come out so i can finish it up but, do you guys think that there will be a DLC where there is more interaction with her if you picked her in the game? Like after you have beat the game? And will i be able to save the game after ive finished it and start a 2nd play through but be also able to go to my 1st play through? And ive heard the dialogue will change with Triss, you think it'll be better? I personally hope so cause in the game you dont get to interact with her much after you pick her.

I think you need a save game before you meet Ciri in the Isle of Mist and after defeat Immerith, yes you can access 1st playthrough (in PC, other i don't know). Don't count on the interaction post-epilogue, just like Witcher 2, the game end after credit, new game or quit ....

And ive heard the dialogue will change with Triss, you think it'll be better? Nobody know yet ...

 

[Will86s]

Triss Merigold of Maribor is a sorceress. She is called the "Fourteenth of the Hill" because she was believed to have been killed during the Battle of Sodden Hill. She is a friend of Yennefer and witcher Geralt of Rivia, and is unhappily in love with the latter. She took care of Ciri at Kaer Morhen for some time and is like an older sister to her. It was through her intervention that Ciri was not inadvertently given harmful hormones which might have negatively impacted her "womanly assets". She was a member of King Foltest's royal council along with Fercart and Keira Metz, as well as a founding member of the Lodge of Sorceresses. She is a skilled healer and carries with her many magical potions, but she never uses them on herself because she is allergic to magical elixirs and potions. She is also quite a powerful mage, certainly when it counts most and when a situation rose up where she had to prove her talent, she left everyone speechless and impressed of how far talented and powerful a young and inexperienced sorceress such as herself can do and what she can accomplish.

This topic is dedicated to the discussion of the red headed beauty from Maribor. Don’t hold back with spoilers, just make sure to flag the posts which are considered as such.

This is how she was described in the books after she met Ciri for the first time. From Blood of Elves by Andrzej Sapkowski.

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"She slipped the fur cape from her shoulders, removed her fox-fur hat and, with a swift movement of the head, tousled her hair – long, full locks the colour of fresh chestnuts, with a sheen of gold, her pride and identifying characteristic. Ciri sighed with admiration. Triss smiled, pleased by the effect she’d had. Beautiful, long, loose hair was a rarity, an indication of a woman’s position, her status, the sign of a free woman, a woman who belonged to herself. The sign of an unusual woman – because “normal” maidens wore their hair in plaits, “normal” married women hid theirs beneath a caul or a coif. Women of high birth, including queens, curled their hair and styled it. Warriors cut it short.

She also had blue eyes and a twenty-two inches waist that she was always proud of and she was always on a diet to keep it this way.

Geralt admitted his feelings for Triss in the books after she was summoned to Kaer Morhen to help him raise Ciri and control her powers. She was his first choice to raise her and she was the first sorceress he turned to for help. Ciri began to like her as soon as she met her and she considered her as an older sister. This conversation took place between them in Kaer Morhen after he knew that she suvived the battle despite of the rumors.

Geralt admitted his feelings for Triss. From Blood of Elves by Andrzej Sapkowski.

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“I studied your impressive tombstone with my own eyes. The obelisk in memory of your heroic death at the battle of Sodden. The news that it was a mistake only reached me recently. I can’t understand how anyone could mistake anyone else for you, Triss.”

“It’s a long story,” she answered. “I’ll tell you some time. And please forgive me for the disagreeable moment.”

“There’s nothing to forgive. I’ve not had many reasons to be happy of late and the feelings I experienced on hearing that you lived cannot compare to any other. Except perhaps what I feel now when I look at you.”

Triss felt something explode inside her. Her fear of meeting the white-haired witcher, which had accompanied her throughout her journey, had struggled within her with her hope of having such a meeting. Followed by the sight of that tired, jaded face, those sick eyes which saw everything, cold and calculating, which were unnaturally calm but yet so infused with emotion…

She threw her arms around his neck, instantly, without thinking. She caught hold of his hand, abruptly placed it on the nape of her neck, under her hair. A tingling ran down her back, penetrated her with such rapture she almost cried out. In order to muffle and restrain the cry her lips found his lips and stuck to them. She trembled, pressing hard against him, her excitement building and increasing, forgetting herself more and more.
Geralt did not forget himself.

“Triss… Please.”

“Oh, Geralt… So much…”

“Triss.” He moved her away delicately. “We’re not alone… They’re coming.”

The heroine of the Sodden Hill. From Blood of Elves (Triss describing the day of the battle).

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I stood on that Hill next to Vilgefortz, next to Artaud Terranova, next to Fercart, next to Enid Findabair and Philippa Eilhart, next to your Yennefer. Next to those who no longer exist – Coral, Yoël, Vanielle…

There was a moment when out of sheer terror I forgot all my spells except for one – and thanks to that spell I could have teleported myself from that horrific place back home, to my tiny little tower in Maribor.

There was a moment, when I threw up from fear, when Yennefer and Coral held me up by the shoulders and hair—”

“Stop. Please, stop.”

“No, Geralt. I won’t. After all, you want to know what happened there, on the Hill. So listen – there was a din and flames, there were flaming arrows and exploding balls of fire, there were screams and crashes, and I suddenly found myself on the ground on a pile of charred, smoking rags, and I realised that the pile of rags was Yoël and that thing next to her, that awful thing, that trunk with no arms and no legs which was screaming so horrifically was Coral. And I thought the blood in which I was lying was Coral’s blood. But it was my own. And then I saw what they had done to me, and I started to howl, howl like a beaten dog, like a battered child— Leave me alone! Don’t worry, I’m not going to cry. I’m not a little girl from a tiny tower in Maribor any more. Damn it, I’m Triss Merigold, the Fourteenth One Killed at Sodden.

There are fourteen graves at the foot of the obelisk on the Hill, but only thirteen bodies. You’re amazed such a mistake could have been made? Most of the corpses were in hard-to-recognise pieces – no one identified them. The living were hard to account for, too. Of those who had known me well, Yennefer was the only one to survive, and Yennefer was blind. Others knew me fleetingly and always recognised me by my beautiful hair. And I, damn it, didn’t have it any more!” Geralt held her closer. She no longer tried to push him away.

“They used the highest magics on us,” she continued in a muted voice, “spells, elixirs, amulets and artefacts. Nothing was left wanting for the wounded heroes of the Hill. We were cured, patched up, our former appearances returned to us, our hair and sight restored. You can hardly see the marks. But I will never wear a plunging neckline again, Geralt. Never.”

Her hair was magically restored back to it's former appearance and the injury she sustained on her chest during the battle was also healed using high magic. Her physical injuries were completely gone without leaving any scars, but she was left with a degree of mental scarring.

Triss also saved Geralt's life during The Thanedd coup after he was seriously wounded by Vilgefortz and was left there dying at the end of the skirmish by transporting him to Brokilon with the help of Tissaia de Vries.

She did some other heroic deeds. Ending the massacure in Rivia was one of them. Triss was actually able to cast Alzur's Thunder - Merigold's Hailstorm they called it. Basically, the name is used illegally, since the magic has never been registered, and no one has been able to repeat it except for her.

Triss's relationship history before she met Geralt. From Blood of Elves by Andrzej Sapkowski.

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As far as her erotic life was concerned, Triss Merigold had the right to consider herself a typical enchantress. It had began with the sour taste of forbidden fruit, made all the more exciting by the strict rules of the academy and the prohibitions of the mistress under whom she practised. Then came her independence, freedom and a crazy promiscuity which ended, as it usually does, in bitterness, disillusionment and resignation. Then followed a long period of loneliness and the discovery that if she wanted to release her tension and stress then someone who wanted to consider himself her lord and master – as soon as he had turned on his back and wiped the sweat from his brow – was entirely superfluous. There were far less troublesome ways of calming her nerves – ones with the additional advantages of not staining her towels with blood, not passing wind under the quilt and not demanding breakfast. That was followed by a short-lived and entertaining fascination with the same sex, which ended in the conclusion that soiling towels, passing wind and greediness were by no means exclusively male attributes. Finally, like all but a few magicians, Triss moved to affairs with other wizards, which proved sporadic and frustrating in their cold, technical and almost ritual course.

Triss first love was Geralt and before she met him, she never knew what true love was. From Blood of Elves by Andrzej Sapkowski.

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Then Geralt of Rivia appeared. A witcher leading a stormy life, and tied to her good friend Yennefer in a strange, turbulent and almost violent relationship. Triss had watched them both and was jealous even though it seemed there was little to be jealous of. Their relationship quite obviously made them both unhappy, had led straight to destruction, pain and yet, against all logic… it had lasted. Triss couldn’t understand it. And it had fascinated her. It had fascinated her to such an extent that… …she had seduced the witcher – with the help of a little magic. She had hit on a propitious moment, a moment when he and Yennefer had scratched at each other’s eyes yet again and had abruptly parted. Geralt had needed warmth, and had wanted to forget. No, Triss had not desired to take him away from Yennefer. As a matter of fact, her friend was more important to her than he was. But her brief relationship with the witcher had not disappointed. She had found what she was looking for – emotions in the form of guilt, anxiety and pain. His pain. She had experienced his emotions, it had excited her and, when they parted, she had been unable to forget it. And she had only recently understood what pain is. The moment when she had overwhelmingly wanted to be with him again. For a short while – just for a moment – to be with him.

Triss always felt that Yennefer's relationship with Geralt was toxic and she wasn't the only one. She envied her for having him.

The magic she used wasn't used to seduce Geralt.

Triss's relationship with Vesemir. From Blood of Elves by Andrzej Sapkowski.

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Vesemir welcoming Triss to Kaer Morhen.

“Triss, my child!”

“Vesemir!”

Vesemir was really very old. Who knows, he could be even older than Kaer Morhen. But he walked towards her with a brisk, energetic and sprightly step; his grip was vigorous and his hands strong.

“I am happy to see you again, Grandfather.”

“Give me a kiss. No, not on the hand, little sorceress. You can kiss my hand when I’m resting on my bier. Which will, no doubt, be soon. Oh, Triss, it is a good thing you have come… Who can cure me if not you?”

“Cure, you? Of what? Of behaving like a child, surely! Take your hand from my backside, old man, or I’ll set fire to that grey beard of yours!”

“Forgive me. I keep forgetting you are grown up, and I can no longer put you on my knee and pat you. As to my health… Oh, Triss, old age is no joke. My bones ache so I want to howl. Will you help an old man, child?”

“I will.” The enchantress freed herself from his bearlike embrace.

The Witcher games. Thanks to CDPR made our dreams come true of finally seeing Geralt in a relationship with Triss. It was beautiful in TW1, It was beautiful in TW2 and it definitely have a lot of good moments in TW3 though due to all of the inconsistencies and plot holes in her romance story and options. The decision about their relationship in TW3 is yet to be made.

For those who have and haven't read the books. Triss obviously had a charming personality, an exotic and radiant appearance that left anyone who met her wanting more.

A lot of us who read the books always wondered what could have happened "If" Triss was able to help Ciri back in Kaer Morhen and what if her and Geralt stayed together to raise Ciri there.

This is why she couldn't stay there and why their happiness didn't last. From Blood of Elves by Andrzej Sapkowski.

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“Geralt, this is a serious matter. The girl is an exceptionally powerful medium. I don’t know what or who she is contacting, but I think there are no limits to her connection. Something wants to take possession of her. Something which is too powerful for me. I am afraid for her. Another trance could end in mental illness. I have no control over it, don’t know how to, can’t… If it proved necessary, I would not be able to block or suppress her powers; I would not even be capable, if there were no other option, of permanently extinguishing them. You have to get help from another magician. A more gifted one. More experienced. You know who I’m talking about.”

“I do.” He turned his head away, clenched his lips.

“Don’t resist. Don’t defend yourself. I can guess why you turned to me rather than her. Overcome your pride, crush your rancour and obstinacy. There is no point to it, you’ll torture yourself to death. And you are risking Ciri’s health and life in the process. Another trance is liable to be more dangerous to her than the Trial of Grasses. Ask Yennefer for help, Geralt.”

“And you, Triss?”

“What about me?” She swallowed with difficulty.

“I’m not important. I let you down. I let you down… in everything. I was… I was your mistake. Nothing more.”

“Mistakes,” he said with effort,

“are also important to me. I don’t cross them out of my life, or memory. And I never blame others for them. You are important to me, Triss, and always will be. You never let me down. Never. Believe me.”

She remained silent a long while.

“I will stay until spring,” she said finally, struggling against her shaking voice.

“I will stay with Ciri… I will watch over her. Day and night. I will be with her day and night. And when spring is here… when spring is here we will take her to Melitele’s Temple in Ellander. The thing that wants to possess her might not be able to reach her in the temple. And then you will ask Yennefer for help.”

“All right, Triss. Thank you.”

“Geralt?”

“Yes.”

“Ciri said something else, didn’t she? Something only you heard. Tell me what it was.”

“No,” he protested and his voice quivered.

“No, Triss.”

“Please.”

“She wasn’t speaking to me.”

“I know. She was speaking to me. Tell me, please.”

“After coming to… When I picked her up… She whispered: ‘Forget about him. Don’t torture him.’”

“I won’t,” she said quietly.

“But I can’t forget. Forgive me.”

“I am the one who ought to be asking for forgiveness. And not only asking you.”

“You love her that much,” she stated, not asking.

“That much,” he admitted in a whisper after a long moment of silence.

“Geralt.”

“Yes, Triss?”

“Stay with me tonight.”

“Triss…”

“Only stay.”

“All right.”

During the events of TW1, Triss was hurt during Defending Kaer Morhen and after the battle was over. We got another quest A Potion for Triss. Even though he had amnesia and even after he lost his memory. He still remembered the first thing he told her after he knew that she surivived The Battle of Sodden Hill "The feelings I experienced on hearing that you lived cannot compare to any other. Except perhaps what I feel now when I look at you.”


@abex81 Please tell me what you think about this. You guys can add the screenshots, GIFs and Fan-art along with the videos in between and add whichever more you feel like sharing lore-wise.

I made this post by the way to update the topic's main-post with. I figured making it look pretty and Informative wouldn't hurt.

This is very educational, you should add it to the OP and throw some of that stuff on wiki.

 

[dillonethan133]

O.K., I just finished a playthrough of The Witcher 2. Here's how I played which will give you an idea of my choices:

+ I agreed to help Roche find the Kingslayer.
+ During my escape I released the La Valettes.
+ A short time after arriving in Flotsam Geralt gave Triss a Rose of remembrance.
+ They made love.
+ Geralt then agreed to walk away from the whole thing to be with Triss.
+ Triss offered to search for Yennefer with him.
+ Geralt agreed and, in a round about way, told Triss he loved her.
+ Triss was then kidnapped and from that moment onwards Geralt's only concern was finding Triss.
+ He worked with Iorveth who he felt could help him find her.
+ He searched Vergen and surrounding areas only to become convinced she was on the other side of the mist.
+ Geralt crossed a Wraith infested Mist with only one thing on his mind - finding Triss.
+ Geralt found she'd been turned in to a Statuette and been taken to Loc Muinne.
+ He lifted the curse and helped Saskia but whilst he espoused her ideals, she was a means to an end (find Triss).
+ Geralt followed Triss to Loc Muinne and there he split up from Iorveth, agreeing to search for Phillipa.
+ Whilst Iorveth wanted to find Phillipa to lift the spell from Saskia, Geralt needed her to find Triss.
+ Geralt found her in the dungeons, but refused to release her for fear it would put Triss in danger.
+ Geralt hacked his way through a Nilfgaardian camp to find Tirss chained to a wall.
+ Geralt freed Triss and asked her about the lodge.
+ Geralt believed her. He then told her he'd travelled half the world to find and free her.
+ He killed the Dragon and let Letho go and set off with Triss to find Yennefer.

At no point whatsoever in my playthrough did he agree to end their relationship. At no point whatsoever in my playthrough did they agree to go their separate ways and at no point whatsoever in my playthrough did Triss betray him. So why the bloody hell does The Witcher 3 completely contradict my playthrough when it comes to my existing relationship with Triss?

I start my The Witcher 3 playthrough, set six months after the events of The Witcher 2.

I set out from Loc Muinne six months ago with Triss and suddenly I'm with Vesemir. No explanation is given as to why.

I told Triss I wanted to be with her and gave her a Rose of remembrance as a symbol of my love for her, travel half a continent to find and rescue her only to find out we're no longer in a relationship. No explanation is given as to why.

Dandelion recites the tale through the narration of the second game, speaking of Geralt and Triss' love several times so why does everyone on the bloody planet think I'm still in a relationship with Yennefer?

I started this playthrough because I had begun to doubt myself, thinking perhaps I must have missed something. After all, I had only played the original version, not the Enhanced Edition (which I've just completed - and by the way CDPR, that's now two copies of that game I own). Honest to god I feel utterly infuriated after playing that game and seeing how all the choices I made, my decisions, my concerns, my priorities and my choices all be ignored without even the slightest explanation as to why. Where in the blazes does Vesemir come from? He was either on the path or at Kaer Morhen, the former making the chances of finding him remote, the latter being simply too far away to reach and then travel back to Nilfgaard, through war torn Tameria to pick up Yennefer's trail and follow it back North again. Sure you might try to argue Triss could open a portal but to what end? We agreed to go together and we needed to go South, not North.

Having played The Witcher 2, I had thought the story line of The Witcher 3 would make more sense but amazingly enough, it makes even less sense. It reduces the first few hours of the plot to complete and utter bollocks. Why do I get the opportunity to decide whether or not Aryan La Valette lives or dies, whether or not Síle de Tansarville lives or dies or whether Letho lives or dies yet I cannot decide whether or not I romanced Triss.

As a result, the game is fundamentally flawed in its current state. You did a marvellous job with combat, the game engine, the audio, the acting is of an extremely high calibre as is the quest system and, by and large, the story telling for all the side quests but the main quest is completely broken all because you didn't allow us to choose whether or not we'd previously romanced Triss; and while I'm on a rant, the ending is nonsensical as well. Having spent the entirety of the game trying to save Ciri from the Wild Hunt, she then buggers off to kill a snowstorm. I'd laugh if it wasn't so tragic.

Thought the break up between him and Triss was between TW:2 and TW:3

 

[Pryce68]

The list looks perfect, thank you, did you guys get anymore answers from the developers about what they're going to fix and what-not?

They need more time to think things through. See what they can do and see what they cannot do. After that of course the fixing, recording, tweaking and adding the new stuff will take time. But I expect we'll get a patch-notes from them when it's ready which should provide all the information we're looking for.

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This is very educational, you should add it to the OP and throw some of that stuff on wiki.

It was already added to the Main-post, you just need to scroll down a bit. I'm also not sure if sharing that much information about the character on wiki is allowed or not.

EDIT reason: Update.

 

[saladin1701]

Thought the break up between him and Triss was between TW:2 and TW:3

No explanation as to why this might occur. Why would you travel half the world to find someone you loved, risk life and limb in the process, agree to travel together in search of someone else, only to change your mind within the space of six months? Plus, like I said, where does Vesemir fit in? It's nonsensical when taken in the context of the second game. It works - only just - as a stand alone game but not as a sequel. The Witcher 3 is deeply, deeply flawed.

 

[Elessarinho]

No explanation as to why this might occur. Why would you travel half the world to find someone you loved, risk life and limb in the process, agree to travel together in search of someone else, only to change your mind within the space of six months? Plus, like I said, where does Vesemir fit in? It's nonsensical when taken in the context of the second game. It works - only just - as a stand alone game but not as a sequel. The Witcher 3 is deeply, deeply flawed.

It isn't nonsensical,i think.Trireme's version of dialogue between them when they are crossing Pontar is very close to real)