I think this is unnecessary. IMO, it doesn't take much to make Triss's romance equal to that of Yen. Perhaps two extra scenes are enough. They don't have to overhaul the entire game for a romance. Besides, a lot of things that happened in TW2 was ignored anyway. Just ask anyone who sided with Iroveth. Same thing for TW1, ask anyone who romanced Shani. It seems like CDPR picks bits and pieces from the previous games to tell their story for the next one. It was done for all the games. Which makes me think that the games aren't meant to be taken completely as literal continuations of the last ones.
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I think most people in this thread have already stated their genuine Triss improvement ideas, either in the old thread, are much earlier in this one, and now are just messing around with crazy story ideas. That's not to say some people here aren't being delusional and saying plainly crazy things, but I don't think most of us actually expect them to remove Yen content in favor of Triss content, I believe it's more about making Triss' interaction and dialogue feel like it actually matters in the way that Yennefers does, and not just as a late addition afterthought.
Am I the only one to think that the split up between TW2 and TW3 was a wonderful idea because it allowed the devs to write the fantastic build up for the romance with Triss in Witcher 3 ? I mean, that's why the "I love you" scene is so powerful.
No split up = No build up = Lovable character but boring story.
I understand that we want everything to be fixed, but there is a lot of things in the Triss romance that need no fixing at all because they are wonderful and they are the very reason we care so much.
No split up = No build up = Lovable character but boring story.
I understand that we want everything to be fixed, but there is a lot of things in the Triss romance that need no fixing at all because they are wonderful and they are the very reason we care so much.
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The bolded part is how I'm feeling right now. I don't want to play some OOC fan fiction Geralt who spills his guts out about his romance partners all over every NPC he comes across, the player doesn't need to be hit upside the head with Triss at every turn. I understand why Creys mentions Yen and why Geralt doesn't correct her. One, Creys may not know Triss and Two, Geralt just isn't the type to spread his personal business around like that. I understand why Phillipa tells Geralt to take Yen and go off somewhere and Geralt response "Triss might object" is perfect and in character.
I like the split up as well. Not only for the reason you mentioned but also because it shows Triss becoming her own person and not just some tagalong. Geralt shouldn't be the end all be all of Triss's life. I enjoyed running into her in Novigrad, seeing her do her own thing, and not waiting to be saved by Geralt.
Yeah, I pretty much said the same thing a few pages back.
I get the impression that some people want the Triss romance to be this idyllic love affair that never has any problems or hiccups, and that's simply not what relationships are like. A little bit of drama here and there is good ... it makes the resolution and their ultimate happiness all the sweeter.
And like others have said, if a few people suggest some outlandish or extreme fixes for the game, don't take it to heart. CDPR isn't monitoring every post and saying, "Oh yes, I must implement that." Their decision to fix Triss' story arc and make additions/tweaks wasn't based off the demands of one or two individuals, but over 930 pages of text in the previous thread.
It needs three.
Act 2: Kaer Morhen
Act 2: Battle of Kaer Morhen
Act 3; Skellige
It also needs Act 3: Novigrad material expanding. That way the material is paced better. For the benefit of clarity, let me re-post the time line.
Dream Sequence/tutorial >> Prologue >> Act 1: Velen >> Triss Romance >> Act 1: Skellige >> Triss Romance >> Act 2: Ilse of Mists >> Triss Romance >> Act 3: Bald Mountain >> Triss Romance >> Triss Romance
It breaks the game up thusly:
For those who want to go the route of Yennefer, the early game introduces the character of Yennefer, a character only mentioned in previous games. The Skellige isles during the first act then flesh out her character and allows the player to establish/re-kindle a romance with her. She then figures throughout the rest of the game as the protagonist's lover.
For those who want to go the route of Triss, the events of Novigrad allow new players to be introduced to this character and old players to re-kindle their love interest of choice from the previous games. Early act two, i.e. prior to The Isle of mists, Triss should have extended content that allows her to be fleshed out for new players and old players to feel that she's being treated with equal respect to Yennefer. Act three should consist of extended content to allow all players who choose this romance, to feel that she's an important part of Geralt's life.
The issue with the romance is that the is insufficient content to make her attractive to newcomers and makes veterans of the series feel let down but just slapping in scenes or dialogue her or there isn't going to work because the pacing of the game is all wrong for Triss so by extending the content and pacing it the final two acts, neither romance ever goes more than a few of hours of gameplay without that romance choice figuring in Geralt's life.
Hope Cd project Took note of this. As long said before, addictions like those could improve the experience very well, And dammit, want a KOVIR dlc
"Six months ago Triss Merigold parted with someone very dear to her"
This is what she says in the warehouse scene at the beginning of the Novigrad section of the game. Thing is, if you romanced her in TW2, six months ago Triss Merigold set out with someone very dear to her to find Yennefer of Vengerberg. It's a continuity error for those who romanced Triss in the previous game.
Fixing this continuity error does not necessarily require her to have not broken up with Geralt, that is simply one way of doing it, it's the way it should have been. The easiest way to address that is simply an explanation as to why six months ago Triss Merigold departed from someone very dear to her. Simply add this explanation to the warehouse scene, directly before this line and everything suddenly makes sense.
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Yeah I have to remember that. I just don't want CDPR to think that every crazy extreme suggestion is supported by the entire fan base. i.e the multiple suggestions I keep reading about a Kovir dlc. Is that really needed? lol!!
I think at CDProject they are smart enough to discern reasonable fixes from extreme suggestion without your help, don't you think?
Oh for the love of Triss, you guys are about to drive me to insanity. I step to the sidelines to watch because, I didn't want to piss anyone of with my crazy but reasonable ideas and opinions.
But you guys going at each other is driving me insane. At least you hug and made up tho. I expect that from others not fellow Triss folks. We have to keep this thread alive no matter what, got it. I am out for a month and if this thread is shut down from bickering and fighting instead of providing meaningful discussions I will pickup my silver sword and come after you like a drowner contract.
Nothing wrong with people playing around with ideas in the forum, it's call imagination. My is very active so I try not to use it too much. If it were up to me, every NPC will have Triss face because, she is so lovely. Ok ok I will put some Yen face in there too to be fair. JK
Just stay the course people. We've already made our issues known. It would be a shame now to start jabbing at each other or others for that matter. No idea is crazy. We already have our reasonable suggestions on the OP. All people are doing at this point is letting their imagination run wild. If people are offended by every little thing just let them voice their crazy ideas and you can choose to respond politely or ignore them.
Keep it civil people. Just my 2 cents. I will be watching from the sidelines. Dawitcher Out
P.s. keep posting Triss fan pics, I love those. If you disagree with someone instead of responding with something harsh just post a fan pic, cool off, then formulate a response. Triss fan art for Triss forum please.
But you guys going at each other is driving me insane. At least you hug and made up tho. I expect that from others not fellow Triss folks. We have to keep this thread alive no matter what, got it. I am out for a month and if this thread is shut down from bickering and fighting instead of providing meaningful discussions I will pickup my silver sword and come after you like a drowner contract.
Nothing wrong with people playing around with ideas in the forum, it's call imagination. My is very active so I try not to use it too much. If it were up to me, every NPC will have Triss face because, she is so lovely. Ok ok I will put some Yen face in there too to be fair. JK
Just stay the course people. We've already made our issues known. It would be a shame now to start jabbing at each other or others for that matter. No idea is crazy. We already have our reasonable suggestions on the OP. All people are doing at this point is letting their imagination run wild. If people are offended by every little thing just let them voice their crazy ideas and you can choose to respond politely or ignore them.
Keep it civil people. Just my 2 cents. I will be watching from the sidelines. Dawitcher Out
P.s. keep posting Triss fan pics, I love those. If you disagree with someone instead of responding with something harsh just post a fan pic, cool off, then formulate a response. Triss fan art for Triss forum please.
I don't like it when people exaggerate ideas to show how wrong they are. Sure, replacing Vesemir at the prologue is the same as replacing any other character! Sure, making some NPCs acknowledge Triss' romance means that everyone should talk about it!
Really? Can we discuss the ideas that are proposed without altering them?
IMO, @saladin1701 has a point. It does not make sense that you can spend TW2 caring about Triss and trying to save her and then break up after all that. I remember being quite confused at the beginning of TW3 because of it. Still, I don't think replacing Vesemir at the prologue is a good solution, neither a realistic one.
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Fair enough, I guess that's a reasonable request. I haven't completed the Witcher 2 yet, so I don't know how that game ends. Does the epilogue explicitly state that Triss sets out with Geralt to look for Yennefer?
If it does, I assume that Triss eventually came to the realization that it would be super awkward for her to tag along as Geralt searches for his erstwhile lover.
Yes there is. We can all write our fanfiction about why but the onus is on CDPR to explain it in the game and close that continuity plot hole. The way things stand, for people like yourselves who didn't play the last game (and I assume the first one as well?), Triss is neither introduced well nor is she fleshed out in any way. Yennefer might be new to the series but if you, the player are new to the series then from your perspective, both characters are new but only one of them gets fleshed out. What I've suggested in my time line is a way to fix that by pacing the material across all three acts so both characters, depending upon player choice, always feel part of Geralt's life.
Like I said last night, there are a lot of continuity errors in this game and there are multiple threads on the forum about them. I'm simply trying to stick to the ones that pertain to the Triss romance and not send the thread spiralling off topic.
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I sort of assume from the comments that Geralt breaks things off due to confusion from his newly restored memories. Whilst that's not what i would have ideally liked i can understand their decision to go that route and why Geralt might do despite his feelings for Triss. It's understandable if Triss doesn't want to be in awkward travelling environment especially given her expectation that Geralt will end up back with Yen.
Listen ladies and gents, if you haven't played The Wticher 2 I strongly advise you to do so and complete a Triss romance playthrough because only then will the continuity issues make sense. It's cheap on GOG.com and you'll help make CDPR more money to make us that Kovir DLC 
First I gotta finish TW1Listen ladies and gents, if you haven't played The Wticher 2 I strongly advise you to do so and complete a Triss romance playthrough because only then will the continuity issues make sense. It's cheap on GOG.com and you'll help make CDPR more money to make us that Kovir DLC
Might need some mods to hurry up act 2 though
I'd preorder Kovir DLC for a lot of money, no problem.
Imo the player should witness everything that happens with his character otherwise you have no "role" in the game... if you are risking your own life to save someone important to you at least the game should show us why they split up between games...
maybe replacing Vesemir is not the best option, for me they should split up right after you talk with/kill Letho and he gets his memory back... in the end Triss goes straight to Novigrad while Geralt starts looking for Yen.
maybe replacing Vesemir is not the best option, for me they should split up right after you talk with/kill Letho and he gets his memory back... in the end Triss goes straight to Novigrad while Geralt starts looking for Yen.
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