Triss Merigold (all spoilers)

[Velor]

Am I the only one to think that the split up between TW2 and TW3 was a wonderful idea because it allowed the devs to write the fantastic build up for the romance with Triss in Witcher 3 ? I mean, that's why the "I love you" scene is so powerful.

No split up = No build up = Lovable character but boring story.

I understand that we want everything to be fixed, but there is a lot of things in the Triss romance that need no fixing at all because they are wonderful and they are the very reason we care so much.

Not, you're not the only one. For me it make same because Geralt's memories came back at the end of TW2 “long time” afer elven bath and the discussion with Triss. He had to think about a lot of things, alone or at least without Triss (who is a part of that things) and it make totally sense.

I agree, it may be a plot hole but I prefer having Vesemir at the start rather than Triss. To take him out and throw Triss in would just muck up the entire Triss in Novigrad storyline. There is no way CDPR could justify Triss heading to Novigrad and becoming the leader of the mages in a span of a few days. If anything I just see it as Triss probably parting from Geralt right after Loc Muine. Probably within the same month or so after the events of TW2. Considering the fact that we have no idea of the exact date Geralt and Vesemir met up again vs when Triss and Geralt split, it could have very well had been during the first month after TW2, leaving Geralt and Vesemir as traveling companions for that six months. Sure it's a bit of a stretch but I don't see it as a major plot hole.

I agree that the Triss romance fizzles when the player reaches Kaer Morhan. I was perfectly happy with the events of the romance up until that point. Triss is nowhere to be found, it's just Yen and the Witchers. I do like that I have the option to tell Lambert and Eskel that the relationship with Yen is done. But it would have been nice if Triss was there helping out even if it is just standing there assisting Yen, and the option for a second love scene could be there, the same as Yen.

This would probably be the best time to fit in giving Triss her earring and that wilted rose.

Then I hope she tells Geralt that she doesn't need it and throws it in the trash.


The rest of the game can play out the same as usual with more emphasis on Geralt and Ciri's father/daughter relationship in Act 3. As it should be. I just don't see why the game should focus on Geralt's romances during this time when establishing the relationship with Ciri is the primary focus. The game isn't about Yen and Triss or Yen and Triss's relationship with Ciri. It's about Geralt and Ciri. The only other thing that should be added in Act 3 is being able to let Triss wish us luck or something just before the final battle.

Other than that the Triss romance is well done, the scenes we have with her are perfect, and the scenes we have with the other characters are well done. I just don't see Geralt as being the type to run around telling everyone details of his personal life and plans. So I'm fine with Cerys and Phillipa not acknowledging Triss, and I'm okay with Geralt not spilling his emotions all over Lambert and Eskel, and giving details about his future plans to Emphyr of all people.

I'm not starting a war or trying to tell others what to think, I just want to add my feedback to the thread. The fact that CDPR is taking their time with this issue makes me feel good that they are looking for ways to do it right not just for us but for themselves as well, and I'll be willing to take or leave whatever they decide to do. But since they may be reading this thread, I figure adding my own two cents in the pot won't hurt.

Agree with you, especially with Kaer Morhan where I was hoping to see her (and Keira, I really love what CDPR do with herJ). But nop and I was really disappointed. Yours “arguments” about the Act 3 are really good too and I think the same but, for me, there is something missing here: interaction with other character (not only Triss, even if as LI it’s more noticeable).

For exemple, after I had discover that Ciri save Geralt to the Wild Hunt and bring me to Kaer Morhan, I really wanna talk to that with her, but no option. Or like Pricilla (don’t know if she has the same name in English), I really want to see her in next act, with Dandelion, but she wasn’t here :s.

More dialogs options have given more depth to the game I think.



But for me, the real problem is that the romancing quest of Triss is available too soon.

I mean, the break up gives to players a chance to discover the two women before taking a decision and it is very well done, especially for those who know neither the games nor the books. But this idea loses sense when the quest to choose the romance can be made without having actually seen the two women.In addition, the quest for the Yen with the Djinn left under hearing that the wish of Geralt is more or less responsible of his feelings, therefore able to validate romance Triss before this quest seems bizarre.

For me, integrate Triss a step further in the main quest (Novigrad part) could have been a good idea so her impact on the player could have been stronger and she could have a bigger and better role in the main quest. Remind the player later, after the main quest of Skellige (eg via Yen would have received a message for help from Triss for example) would have been more coherent for the storyline and the romance and allows the player to know the two women before choosing one.



PS: sorry for my bad English x).

 

[Trireme]

The easiest way to address that is simply an explanation as to why six months ago Triss Merigold departed from someone very dear to her. Simply add this explanation to the warehouse scene, directly before this line and everything suddenly makes sense.

The "why" is almost certainly that Geralt wanted to go search for Yen alone once his memories fully returned. Triss would go anywhere and take any risks to be with him at the end of Witcher 2, and the only way they are not together is if Geralt pushed her away. He has a talent for making things worse when he tries to explain his feelings and motivations, so he probably said some rather hurtful things to Triss when he left. Triss, trying to put on a brave face and pretending to be reconciled to the break-up, would not want to stir things up again by reminding Geralt of what he said/did to hurt her.

Let this be a reminder to players: Geralt is a moron when he's not under your direct control, so keep a close eye on him!

 

[Pug.]

Listen ladies and gents, if you haven't played The Wticher 2 I strongly advise you to do so and complete a Triss romance playthrough because only then will the continuity issues make sense. It's cheap on GOG.com and you'll help make CDPR more money to make us that Kovir DLC

I own multiple copies of both games. I bought the Witcher 2 several years ago on a Steam sale, but then realized that my computer wasn't powerful enough to run it. Purchased the Witcher 1 about two months ago. I'm working through that title, but it is slow going because it hasn't aged well, I don't really like Triss' character (different voice actress, look, etc.), and I've kind of outgrown old school isometric RPG's. I'd say I'm about 5 hours into the Witcher 2, which I bought for the second time for XBOX 360. You're welcome CDPR!

 

[saladin1701]

The "why" is almost certainly that Geralt wanted to go search for Yen alone once his memories fully returned. Triss would go anywhere and take any risks to be with him at the end of Witcher 2, and the only way they are not together is if Geralt pushed her away. He has a talent for making things worse when he tries to explain his feelings and motivations, so he probably said some rather hurtful things to Triss when he left. Triss, trying to put on a brave face and pretending to be reconciled to the break-up, would not want to stir things up again by reminding Geralt of what he said/did to hurt her.

Let this be a reminder to players: Geralt is a moron when he's not under your direct control, so keep a close eye on him!

The 'why' isn't because the 'why' doesn't exist in the game. Until it does there is no 'why'.

 

[maestrobugra26]

Botcling's on the prowl :d

 

[zbum]

The 'why' isn't because the 'why' doesn't exist in the game. Until it does there is no 'why'.

Actually, I agree with you on that point, because it is too important key plot to be left unsaid.

That being said, I'm not ok with the "explaning everything" in a story. A story has to have some "blank space", especially in a video game, because the player can fill them with his/her imagination, which, I think, is very important.

But again, on that particular point, details should have be provided.

 

[Hazevamp]

I think at CDProject they are smart enough to discern reasonable fixes from extreme suggestion without your help, don't you think?

It's not about me thinking they need my help. It's about giving my own feedback for CDPR to consider just like you and everyone else here. If CDPR doesn't need anyone's "help" then this entire thread should be rendered pointless.

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For me, integrate Triss a step further in the main quest (Novigrad part) could have been a good idea so her impact on the player could have been stronger and she could have a bigger and better role in the main quest. Remind the player later, after the main quest of Skellige (eg via Yen would have received a message for help from Triss for example) would have been more coherent for the storyline and the romance and allows the player to know the two women before choosing one.



PS: sorry for my bad English x).

I agree completely. One of my suggestions was to trigger Triss's "Now or Never" Quest after Skellige so that the player has a chance to spend time with both women before making a choice. I do hope they look into doing that. If not, I'll accept it.

Your English is fine.

 

[FieryPhoenix7]

So I'm on my second playthrough and met Triss for the first time with her DLC outfit on (the elven dress thingy). Have to say it feels... weird? Out of place? I don't know how to describe it. Yennefer's alternate dress is pretty awesome but Triss'? Not so much.

 

[wichat]

So I'm on my second playthrough and met Triss for the first time with her DLC outfit on (the elven dress thingy). Have to say it feels... weird? Out of place? I don't know how to describe it. Yennefer's alternate dress is pretty awesome but Triss'? Not so much.

I agree, keeping in mind she is almost always trying to go unnoticed by witch hunters and informers.... but it's optional. It's all up to you using it or not

 

[FieryPhoenix7]

I agree, keeping in mind she is almost always trying to go unnoticed by witch hunters and informers.... but it's optional. It's all up to you using it or not

Oh I know. I wanted to test it out anyway.I actually don't think the dress itself is bad; it's just that it seems out of place on Triss. I couldn't really tell you how. It's just what it is.

 

[wichat]

Oh I know. I wanted to test it out anyway.I actually don't think the dress itself is bad; it's just that it seems out of place on Triss. I couldn't really tell you how. It's just what it is.

But she looks lovely in the party wearing this dress.

 

[FieryPhoenix7]

But she looks lovely in the party wearing this dress.

I haven't reached there yet. Probably tomorrow when I continue. But I would image it's fitting there!

 

[saladin1701]

So I'm on my second playthrough and met Triss for the first time with her DLC outfit on (the elven dress thingy). Have to say it feels... weird? Out of place? I don't know how to describe it. Yennefer's alternate dress is pretty awesome but Triss'? Not so much.

Yeah, a LOT on this across the internet. General consensus is it's nice but totally out of character for the game.

 

[FieryPhoenix7]

Yeah, a LOT on this across the internet. General consensus is it's nice but totally out of character for the game.

Pretty much.

I thought Yen's alternate outfit was better overall. Certainly didn't feel OOC in her case.

 

[saladin1701]

Pretty much.

I thought Yen's alternate outfit was better overall. Certainly didn't feel OOC in her case.

Yeah, agreed and it works well as a genuinely 'alternative' outfit to her original one (as opposed to replacement). Out in the field I have her wearing the Alternate. Rest of the time she wears the original. If they'd put the TW2 outfit in it might have provided something similar for Triss. That being said, she's never in the field

 

[Charcharo]

Alternative look from a friend of mine...

It looks great to me. Even if it aint exactly lore friendly (100 % slav though ) !

 

[Trireme]

Time for a break from inconsistencies, so here's some Witcher 2 Triss taking an interest in local culture:

I'd forgotten that when you arm wrestle someone she walks over to watch.

 

[FieryPhoenix7]

Man, I do miss Geralt's W2 hairstyle...

 

[saladin1701]

Man, I do miss Geralt's W2 hairstyle...

It's the same hairstyle as the default in TW3?

 

[FieryPhoenix7]

It's the same hairstyle as the default in TW3?

I don't think so. Looks different to me. The ponytail is far more pronounced in the W2 version.