Triss Merigold (all spoilers)

[Gennad86]

Yes, just take the Iorvath's path, i'm playing Witcher 2, the rose is used to make someone fall in love deeply

So? Philippa used it this way, it just means there are other uses for it. It's rose of remembrance after all. You seriously believe she wanted to bind him with this? Oh man.

She did, TW1.

Not a single time neither in TW1 nor in TW2.

She was with Geralt all the way.

So were they.

Does not change the fact that she was selfish. Not only her sacrificed things to help Ciri.

You wrote two sentences that contradict each other, you know?

 

[iNeSiNhA]

Most people who like Triss are gamers but there those of us odd ones who read the books and still love Triss. I don't know why people look at Triss supporters as heretics. She is a character in the books and a character in the games. Call me weird but I used my imagination to create the relationship I wanted for Geralt and Triss. CDPR only allow me to see it on a TV screen.*



I have to disagree. For me It would really depends on the reasons why they lied.

So Triss reasons are fine to you? Well, at least i think that no one would be ok with an amnesia advantage to take somebody's place in someone's life, the purpose on find the Rose, the forcing way to bed someone (rape, in other words, and this one i think that anyone should be ok), a friend betrayal and a lie (with the intention to make someone forget about a love) that could just help someone who is suffering memory loss.

Actually, i never tought too bad about this, but looking again Triss is really a "desperate to be with him" person This just does not fell like real love, feels like necessity, possession... And there are people who say that Yen/Geralt is a toxic relationship, but a romance build on these lies and facts is what?

 

[DaWitcher]

Spoiler

When she made up for her mistakes? Talking only about the games, Triss:

1 - Lied about the Rose of Remenbrance, trying to make Geralt fall in with her
2 - Didn''t told Geralt about Yennefer
3 - Tried to pretend that she was the sorceress that he was mad in love

Even Philippa says that she "eagerly awaits the chance to hop in bed" with him... It's clear to me that Triss would do anything (really ANYTHING) in her powers to bed Geralt, what leads to the conclusion that she hasn't good intentions at all with these lies, she does not care about a friend (Yennefer), she does not truly care about Geralt feelings, she cares about herself and herself ONLY.

Everything that she did was selfish. Triss desperately tries to get Geralt to run off with her in the elven ruins, did she really care about him, about his true feelings, about the effetcts of the amnesia, about his friends? He wanted his memories back, wanted the truth! She never tought about giving him the thuth, and she knew a lot all the way.

Very selfish to me.

Wow is all I can say. I will let someone else answer you.

 

[iNeSiNhA]

So? Philippa used it this way, it just means there are other uses for it. It's rose of remembrance after all. You seriously believe she wanted to bind him with this? Oh man.

Not a single time neither in TW1 nor in TW2.

So were they.

You wrote two sentences that contradict each other, you know?

Ok, so you are saying that she didn't intend to help Ciri, but Geralt? I think that she was helping Ciri because she loves her, not because of Geralt. So she was selfish about Geralt anyway, what helping Ciri changes that? It's Ciri...

 

[Avin]

Triss is obsessed with Geralt, that's why she ommited (I don't remember she lying to him, only ommiting) Yennefer from him.

But, and I'm repeating myself, almost every Sorceress and woman in game is obsessed with him, so no big deal :sleepy:

 

[DaWitcher]

So Triss reasons are fine to you? Well, at least i think that no one would be ok with an amnesia advantage to take somebody's place in someone's life, the purpose on find the Rose, the forcing way to bed someone (rape, in other words, and this one i think that anyone should be ok), a friend betrayal and a lie (with the intention to make someone forget about a love) that could just help someone who is suffering memory loss.

Actually, i never tought too bad about this, but looking again Triss is really a "desperate to be with him" person This just does not fell like real love, feels like necessity, possession... And there are people who say that Yen/Geralt is a toxic relationship, but a romance build on these lies and facts is what?

Did you actually play the game or read the books? I don't know if we are talking about the same Geralt, but I doubt any women need to force Geralt to bed except maybe one of the krone sisters. She told Geralt about Yen and she offer to help him find Yen, she slept with him but rape? Again wow.

 

[Gennad86]

Ok, so you are saying that she didn't intend to help Ciri, but Geralt?

I'm saying that "was selfish" and "sacrificed things to help Ciri" contradict each other.

 

[iNeSiNhA]

Triss is obsessed with Geralt, that's why she ommited (I don't remember she lying to him, only ommiting) Yennefer from him.

But, and I'm repeating myself, almost every Sorceress and woman in game is obsessed with him, so no big deal :sleepy:

And it is really strange when people talk about "omission", not "a lie". Really?

 

[ajiehb]

It not that I don't understand people who think like you it's just that I get the feeling that people who think like you don't understand people who think like me. The funny thing is that although we are on the opposite sides in opinion we have a lot that we can agree on.

When I look at her betrayer the intent matters more than the act. There is nothing wrong with your opinion and seeing Triss as Geralt's friend. I don't share that opinion but I'm not going to say it's wrong.

Triss made mistakes and she learned from them. Even in the real world people make mistakes and many people do not have the opportunity to make up for their mistakes.

OK. Then what was her intent when she was cheating on Yennefer? I'm just curious how you will justify her action

 

[Gennad86]

And it is really strange when people talk about "omission", no "a lie".

Then Yen is constantly lying to Geralt in TW3. How can you even trust her with this attitude?

 

[Zyvik]

Rose not making to love someone, it won't fade if it give to person You love, it's an old legend, so it could be wrong about fading


And? His most best friend never told him about Yen and Ciri, the friend with whom he were in so many situations in books, he was silent about Yen or Ciri.

And we hate him for that,I assure you

 

[Gennad86]

OK. Then what was her intent when she was cheating on Yennefer? I'm just curious how you will justify her action

She didn't trust (in Ciri aspect at least) Yen because she thought that Yen was one of those behind the Elder blood manipulations. Later she understood she was wrong about Yennefer's motives.

And we hate him for that,I assure you

Never heard a single word about how we can't trust Dandelion, Vesemir, Eskel etc. because of this

 

[Ljesnjanin]

almost every Sorceress and woman in game is obsessed with him, so no big deal

Geralt can have sex with Toruviel, Rayla or two nurses in the midle of battle, while old Vizima is burning...No wonder he is popular among women

 

[ajiehb]

Quote Originally Posted by ajiehb View Post
In books she is betraying her best friend not once.
Once.

At first she sleeps with Geralt and then she refuse to help her Of course it's all from books. That's why I ask people if their POV about Triss based on books or games.

 

[DaWitcher]

I don't post so often but from what i see, if you like Triss, like Trireme said you are an heretic for not following the book lore, even though the whole witcher games break the lore since TW1.

That's true, when you say anything nice about Triss you are automatically a heretic and your opinions and views matters little to the people who think the game should be a replica of the books. What they fail to realize is although the game is based on the book the dev is free to write their own story. Say something nice about Triss and it's like the sky is falling. *CDPR *did an amazing job developing the witcher story.*

 

[Gennad86]

At first she sleeps with Geralt

He wasn't with Yen back then.

 

[Premchand]

, the purpose on find the Rose, the forcing way to bed someone (rape, in other words,

Wait ?

did you just say that the elvenbath house scene was essentially Triss raping Geralt

 

[iNeSiNhA]

I'm saying that "was selfish" and "sacrificed things to help Ciri" contradict each other.

Why? Because i'm talking about her being selfish in the context of a relationship with someone and how it affects people in her circle.

You know, helping Ciri does not make her a not selfish person. People can be selfish about somethings, like someone who doesn't care at all about it's own family but is a sweet and helpful person to friends (most teenagers seems to act like that, by the way).

In Triss case, someone who doesn't care about how she is lying to Geralt, how he feels about someone (Yen), how she is hiding a ton from him, but acts like a sweet person and even helps the guy.

 

[ajiehb]

That's true, when you say anything nice about Triss you are automatically a heretic and your opinions and views matters little to the people who think the game should be a replica of the books. What they fail to realize is although the game is based on the book the dev is free to write their own story. Say something nice about Triss and it's like the sky is falling. *CDPR *did an amazing job developing the witcher story.*

It's the part of the game: say bad things about another sorceress. We are barelly remind you that Triss isn't that better than Yennefer ^_^

 

[Zyvik]

Never heard a single word about how we can't trust Dandelion, Vesemir, Eskel etc. because of this

Because Dandelion not telling Geralt about Yen and Ciri is just OOC and makes no sense.Dandelion is just a horribly written character in the games.