Seems in sorcerers' society it's not something extraordinary.
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Yes they are all vile - defending Triss action regarding this because it was "nothing bad" is kinda weird...:spell:
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If I'm remembering this correctly in books there isn't mentioned any other sleeping than the one in the use of little bit magic...
You're right - her method was indeed questionable, but as long as Geralt was aware, he had the opportunity to refuse her, so I wouldn't go as far as accusing her of rape. Roofieing someone, getting someone blind drunk are examples of a victim not knowing what he/she is doing, which doesn't ascribe to Geralt in this situation.
What's worse in my eyes was that she decided to sleep with her Yennefer's man in the first place (whether they were best or just very dear friends, doesn't really change much). She clearly knew what he meant to Yennefer, even though she couldn't understand their relationship, and yet, she still did it just out of jealousy and curiosity.
Just because no other specific instances are mentioned doesn't mean it didn't happen, it most certainly is implied that it did. I also think that their relation in blood of elves is way too awkward for it only to have been a one time fling.
Well it isn't mentioned. Geralt slept with many women in the saga - I would say they were pretty much flings except the relationship with Fringilla Vigo - where he admitted that he kinda loved her.
The quest Pyres of Novigrad (and also Destination: Skellige) should be available as soon as you are in Velen at the hanged man's tree after visiting the emperor. You can go to Novigrad right then (this is probably easiest with a boat), and begin the quest at her old house near Hierarch Square that is being looted.
It was not that according to Geralt himself (even though he remembers what happened), but apparently no one cares about what he says. "Guilty until proven innocent."
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Why was the magic necessary if Geralt wanted to participate? It sounds very much like she was being a friend to him when he was upset, and then roofied him for a night the morning after which their 'relationship' began. It's quite possible Geralt didn't know he was coerced that first time. Triss only mentions it that one time in her thoughts and Geralt never speaks of it. It could be that he forgave her or that he didn't care or that he didn't know. IDK man, to me it sounds like he was manipulated and the reason it never worked out was because it wasn't real from the start. Kinda reminds me of Kriemhild and Siegfried with a whole lot less of the magic and potions and a whole lot more 'manipulating a depressed person' with a hint of roofies.
How could it be NOT awkward(for Geralt especially) if:
1.You break up/argue with your lover and then sleep with her good friend
2.You later realize it was wrong and it makes you feel shitty
3.Said friend begins to feel something for you which you don't reciprocate
The circumstances make it hella awkward, circumstances which don't appear with Geralt&other women (because they usually don't have any kind of relation to Yennefer). Also why is there a debate whether he slept with Triss once or two or three times? It doesn't matter.
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First there are LOTS of things one can do with magic. You can use magic to attract a person without mind control or 'roofying' them or doing anything directly to them at all.
Read my earlier post for more details but saying a person used 'magic' in this case means nothing without details. We don't know if Triss used magic to take away a Zit or scar, make herself look like the most beautiful person in the world or just mind blasted Geralt.
To put it simply there are not enough details.
But considering Geralt's friendship with Triss and Triss's own character, the mind blast Geralt into sleeping seems unlikely.
I think she used something which would improve her chances without literally hypnotizing him. With the help of a little magic is too vague to come to that conclusion. I'll give you the example from the game - Keira can seduce Geralt with a little help of magic, without resorting to mind control. If Triss really roofied him, that would be a huge elephant in the room, something which would be impossible to never come up again in the books. He has manipulated, I'm not denying that, but I think the decision to sleep with her was his own in the end.
The reason why it didn't work out between them is very simple - she is not Yennefer. Besides, it seems to me that initally it wasn't even meant to be a serious relationship, Triss became addicted to him latter.
I agree. I never got an impression that Geralt was 'forced' into anything. Of course it's not proven by Geralt who doesn't seem to have any problem with that, because in rl victims often don't see themselves as such or go even further and blame themselves. But like I said, I don't think it's the case here. Her 'little magic' could have been anything, some aphrodisiac, some magical 'aura' to create atmosphere, whatever.
Triss admits it herself. She seduced Geralt out of pure curiosity.
All the fuss about seduction with magic is a bit silly- that's just standard procedure for sorceresses. In "The Last Wish" Chireadan (spelling?) describes how Yen uses her charm and beauty as a weapon to get what she wants. When a sorceress decides to seduce someone she will use magic along with more conventional methods to increase her chances of success. And Geralt is able to sense spells when they are cast on him, so whatever Triss did, Geralt accepted it and went along with it. I hate to use the phrase "read the books!", but anyone who reads them can see that Geralt is not very faithful to Yen- it does not take mind control to get him to sleep around.
What Geralt feels about the affair with Triss is guilt for his own actions. He feels guilty because Triss is Yen's close friend, and because Triss started to have serious feelings that he can't return. He has hurt both his lover Yen and his friend Triss by his choices. The problem between Geralt and Triss was that they were looking for different things. Geralt was looking to forget his troubles and find comfort in the arms of a friend, while Triss ended up wanting a deeper relationship.
What Geralt feels about the affair with Triss is guilt for his own actions. He feels guilty because Triss is Yen's close friend, and because Triss started to have serious feelings that he can't return. He has hurt both his lover Yen and his friend Triss by his choices. The problem between Geralt and Triss was that they were looking for different things. Geralt was looking to forget his troubles and find comfort in the arms of a friend, while Triss ended up wanting a deeper relationship.
I think he meant it the way people in rl mean it, the "charm" and "beauty" being connected to the person, not to some literal magic.
I wish people would give him a break sometimes
Yes, he slept around in the books, but in every single case it was during the time he was split up with Yennefer. Unless by 'unfaithful' we mean that he's supposed to be devoted to one person no matter what happens and wheter they are 'officially' together or not. Yes. However Triss definitely isn't an innocent flower in this. Sleeping with your good friend's man is a dick move, pure and simple, sorceress or not.
But in the books, Geralt wasn't OK about it later, unlike his other flings.
I think though that one aspect of this goes back to mecha_fish's earlier posts, the differences between book-Triss and TW3-Triss. TW3-Triss would never do something like this, wouldn't go behind her friend's back, wouldn't trick someone into sex. And yet everything indicates that Book-Triss did. (And I think that TW1-Triss also did, and that TW2-Triss intended to.) TW3-Triss just isn't the same person any more. (And, like mecha_fish, I think she was a much more interesting person in the books and earlier games)
I think though that one aspect of this goes back to mecha_fish's earlier posts, the differences between book-Triss and TW3-Triss. TW3-Triss would never do something like this, wouldn't go behind her friend's back, wouldn't trick someone into sex. And yet everything indicates that Book-Triss did. (And I think that TW1-Triss also did, and that TW2-Triss intended to.) TW3-Triss just isn't the same person any more. (And, like mecha_fish, I think she was a much more interesting person in the books and earlier games)
Well, with Essi he wasn't OK too...but this didn't prevent him to sleep with her a bit later. :teeth:
I think same. And maybe her different and "strange" attitude in TW1 was serving a purpose to take place near Geralt instead of Yen.
They already wake up naked in one bed...or you mean a rose? But nvm in elven bath they could manage without any magic :hrhr:
Seems like that, no hints about it...but her "drunk kiss" could be interpreted differently.
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FringillaI wish people would give him a break sometimes
Ehm...he thought Yen betrayed him and Ciri and is with Vilgefortz(+ he was pretty much suicidal at this point)... so for him it was definitely over. As soon as he learns the truth, he says bye bye to Fringie. So...doesn't countFringilla
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It counts! Officially they didn't break up. And the mere fact that he thought Yen would betray him like thatEhm...he thought Yen betrayed him and Ciri and is with Vilgefortz(+ he was pretty much suicidal at this point)... so for him it was definitely over. As soon as he learns the truth, he says bye bye to Fringie. So...doesn't count
That's a topic for another conversation...but not on the Triss' thread
Damn, I forgot who's thread it is :XThat's a topic for another conversation...but not on the Triss' thread
Regarding Triss in TW3 I REALLY hate that quest with the figurines. She and Geralt were just obnoxious :realmad: