It is realistic.
That option doesn't really exists in the game, I've already answered to you what are the actual options in that conversation.
That choice isn't necessarily pro-Triss vs anti-Triss, it is about doing something for yourself vs doing something for the greater good (the quests where you're helping Roche and Iorveth are even called "For Temeria!" and "For a Higher Cause!", not "Screw you, Triss!")
Whether helping Roche and Iorveth would result in Triss dumping Geralt or not, we will never know for sure, your guess is as good as mine. They leave Loc Muinne together, just like if Geralt saved her personally and then the credits roll.
I did not buy them yet, but for those who did, the only reason not to play the expansions is that they would make the base game look bad in comparison.
And it is most likely that none of the major characters will have a significant role (beyond just saying a few lines about the events of the expansion for the purpose of continuity, like in HoS) in Blood and Wine. If they are to have substantial new content at all, that could be in an enhanced edition, but I think it is doubtful, even more so after all the negative reactions to the patch.In my opinion, it is not only about romance, but a general lack of screen time later in the game (there are some possibly interesting statistics about characters in each act of the main quest in this post). More involvement in quests indirectly also allows for better developing a relationship, and it is also content that is useful for most players regardless of their choices.
It may be made in the second half of the year for some additional sales, although to be honest I would not expect major content changes, but rather features that are not too expensive to implement, but make the game more attractive to new customers.
I agree, although the mistake of the ambitions outstripping the budget is something they could very well repeat again. At least from what I have heard so far about Cyberpunk 2077, it seems to be even more ambitious than TW3 was in the early plans.
I did not buy them yet, but for those who did, the only reason not to play the expansions is that they would make the base game look bad in comparison.
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Yeah the main issue with Triss romance comes from the large lack of screentime or involvement post Now or Never which went hand in hand with the lack of reflection of the choice.
This is precisely what I mean by the romance never grows organically.The preference for screen time with Yen creates a natural bias towards that romance. That's not to say there is a concious bias towards that character in the game's development, just that it's a natural consequence of one romanceable character having significant amounts of screentime, whilst the other is reduced to two personal quests and a brief scene prior to rescuing Philippa. The only way to fix Triss' romance is to provide the player with more opportunities to interact with her throughout the story.
There are times when you have no choice as far as reacting (like when Yen kisses Geralt - I wanted to stop her, of course and could not) and no option in dialog that doesn't hint or outright state Geralt's fascination with her. Little to no effort was made at reflecting Geralt deciding to get back together with Triss. You still get that never-ending question, "What is the sorceress to you? Yennefer, right?" and Cerys still talks to you like you're in love with Yennefer even after you tell Ms. Bossy Pants there's no magic once the djinn granted Yen's wish. Then, as you point out, Triss's lack of involvement later. To me, all that states Yen over Triss was a very conscious effort on the part of CDPR.
This is such a misconception. TW 3 would have sold as well had CDPR stuck to their guns and not compromised. Buzz from TW 1 led to TW 2 sales and TW 3 sales were fueled by word-of-mouth from TW 2. Word-of-mouth is the single biggest factor that determines any game's success. 3's success I also contribute to RedEngine 3. Any game that looks that impressive is going to sell well.It is realistic.
If they have business sense they will look at what ACTUALLY sells. Not what we say sells. What the "hardcore" wants is not what sells nor what the average consumer actually wants.
I hope they would listen. But I'd rather have low expectation. That way if good thing happen I will be happy and surprised. If bad thing happen, at least I wont be as jaded.
It may make sense though that she does not know about that, but the problem is that it is not possible to correct her. It probably would not even require new lines for anyone other than Geralt, the ability to say that he is with someone else (or alone) and change the subject would be better than nothing. The same applies to Ugly Baby. I do not think this particular issue is because of a conscious effort, but rather, as mentioned before, these quests were written with the assumption that they will be played before any romance choice. Even though it is otherwise the worst made part of the game, in Act 3, Geralt suddenly becomes aware of his own choices, and his conversations with Philippa and Emhyr reflect that.
Yah, my bad. I meant to point that out - you have no way of informing Cerys you broke away from Yennefer and are with Triss. There's a whole conversation thread that is out-of-place because of it. Regardless, intentional or not, having no chance to correct Cerys is immersion-breaking.
Indeed, TW2 already sold decently (currently ~3.8 million owners on Steam, although admittedly a fair percentage of that is because of the game being regularly on sale for $3), and the third game had the advantage of a much higher marketing budget (I recall a figure of $35 million, possibly even more) and being developed for the consoles from the beginning.
As I understand - some quests, like "Now or Never", were planned to appear later in game, than now. CDPR broke the planned first order. So we have this mess here and there.
A budget of $35 million? Holy bejesus, doesn't matter how they made TW 3. With the way it looks and that much marketing money behind it, there was no way it would not sell. Not just a bad time to sell out but a tragic time to do so. CDPR could have rewritten the rules for game-making.
Yeah they should have totally and completely ignored the gamers. Would have been better had it been more faithful to the books first and then to have built up actual game only-lore with the previous titles. Much more impressive and genre-defining for a game to do that rather than be watered down for the lower end audience. Actual remediation from a superior art form without damaging either... would have been priceless... such is life
Changing that is only a partial fix. The issue is that coupled with the lack of screen time compared to the other romanceable character in the game. Had Triss had more screen time, and therefore had that romance evolved as organically as Yen's does within the story, the fact Cerys and others still go on about Yen would not have been anything more than a minor irritation. If you simply change Cerys' dialogue to recognise the Triss romance, without increasing her screen time, her romance is still little more than quite literally a quest with the reward of sex rather than a true romance.
Not just compared to the other romanceable character, but in general, compared to other characters and to her own screen time in the first half of the game. If you check the table in this post, she has comparable content to:
Yes, it is somewhat understandable that there are many references to Yennefer earlier in the game, CDPR wanted to introduce her and the long relationship with Geralt from the books to new players. But that does not excuse the fact that the game is heavily biased towards Yennefer after the choice, and that much of the time the choice is simply ignored, not only by the world, but also the characters directly involved.
Yeah it's understandable that Yen with her mother aspect was going to be heavily. Everyone else gets poorly treated and that's pretty poor.
By comparison, Yen gets three times the amount of dialogue in the second half of the game as Triss does. I'm not trying to turn this into a pissing contest though, it's just that how can you expect to develop a romance when you have such little material dedicated to it? Most of Triss' dialogue appears in the first act meaning it's too unbalanced towards her personal quests and lacks any time dedicated to developing the story of that romance once you're actually in a romance with her. Forget about minor characters thinking you're sharing your bed with Yen, the only way to fix this romance is to give her more screen time in the second half of the game.
