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Triss vs Yennefer (now with poll)

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Arius87

Senior user
#1
Jul 22, 2013
Triss vs Yennefer (now with poll)

Hey everyone, this is my first post.

So we are finally going to meet Geralt’s true love Yennefer in TW3. I just finished the books recently and now I got this question for TW3 on my mind:
Imagine you as a player never read the books and now you’re confronted with the situation to choose between Triss and Yennefer. I’m really curious how CDPR will implement Geralt’s personal “love story dilemma” if you want to call it like that. In my opinion they have to give you the time to get to know Yennefer better (especially for players who don’t know Yennfer at all) so that she’s not treated unfair.I think there have to be a few missions/quests that features Yennefer.
Because everybody who read the books will agree that Yennefer has got her own characteristics to say it nicely which can be another reason for players who didn’t read the books to choose Triss.
For myself I can say, that before I read the books and heard of Yennefer the first time and that she is Geralts true love, I would have always chosen Triss. But now after reading the books I'm not sure anymore.

What do you think. I’m curious to see the responses of players who never read the books.
 
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wright1978

Senior user
#2
Jul 22, 2013
Well i can only go with the books that have been translted into English thus far & my game experience. From reading the books i find her interesting but i don't feel any great warmth towards her.


The main Geralt i've played through 2 games with is very much in love with Triss. I view it as not being burdened by the knowledge of Yennefer freed him to new possibilities.

I'm sure we are going to meet & spend time with Yennefer in TW3. I'm looking forward to that as long as they don't force her into being Geralt's 'one true love'. Also hope her appearance doesn't force Triss onto the sidelines storywise.
 
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steelydan

Rookie
#3
Jul 22, 2013
Having predefined character in a game has its pros and cons. Usually it allows for a better and tighter story but to some extent it restricts player's freedom. You cannot go berserk on innocent villagers like in fallout for example.

This also applies to the "choice" between Triss and Yennefer. The point is there is no real choice. Geralt simply cannot choose anyone over Yen.
 
Dprelate

Dprelate

Senior user
#4
Jul 22, 2013
I'll choose triss's nice butt any day !
Just joking
 
Zanderat

Zanderat

Forum veteran
#5
Jul 22, 2013
Steelydan said:
Having predefined character in a game has its pros and cons. Usually it allows for a better and tighter story but to some extent it restricts player's freedom. You cannot go berserk on innocent villagers like in fallout for example.

This also applies to the "choice" between Triss and Yennefer. The point is there is no real choice. Geralt simply cannot choose anyone over Yen.
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True for the books. Not so sure about the game. The devs have already said that Yen is not not a foregone decision for Geralt. Should be interesting.
 
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wright1978

Senior user
#6
Jul 22, 2013
Geralt isn't 100% pre-defined, otherwise players wouldn't have got to make all those choices over the 1st 2 games. The game simply would have flowed down a single path. So yeah Geralt should be able to choose someone over Yen.
 
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Arius87

Senior user
#7
Jul 22, 2013
This also applies to the "choice" between Triss and Yennefer. The point is there is no real choice. Geralt simply cannot choose anyone over Yen.
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I'm just curious how CDPR will "sell" this to player which haven't read the books.
So your meeting Yennnefer and somebody maybe Dandelion says "hey Geralt, this is your true love...". (Just a bit exaggerated)
At least it is the choice of the player.
 
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goopit

Forum veteran
#8
Jul 22, 2013
It seems like a lot of girls seem to fall in love with Geralt for no reason in the books. I just finished reading Essi Davens short story.
 
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ApuLunas.211

Rookie
#9
Jul 22, 2013
i haven't read any books but my choice is clear, not triss for sure.
i don't want to spoil any fun but there is a good reason to kill the triss, if you didn't realize why, well play again.
 
gregski

gregski

Moderator
#10
Jul 22, 2013
I think introducing Yennefer in a proper way is one of the biggest challenges for the writing team. Seeing how many people were disappointed by how Shani was handled I can only imagine how many pitchforks would ditching Triss raise.

But so far we don't know anything. Maybe Triss has been already assigned a different fate by the writers, fate that will make Geralt free of such choice? However, seeing how much the choice between Roche and Iorveth benefitted TW2's plot, I can only imagine how high having to choose between Yen and Triss would set the bar in that regard.

Definitely one of the most, if not THE most, emotional moments in the game.
 
fchopin

fchopin

Forum veteran
#11
Jul 22, 2013
Yennefer it is for me and i read no books.
 
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steelydan

Rookie
#12
Jul 22, 2013
wright1978 said:
Geralt isn't 100% pre-defined, otherwise players wouldn't have got to make all those choices over the 1st 2 games. The game simply would have flowed down a single path. So yeah Geralt should be able to choose someone over Yen.
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Geralt IS 100% predefined. Every single choice player makes in games suits Geralt's personality and can be easily justified. He is not one dimentional character, he somtimes helps folks in trouble, sometimes he doesn't. Depends. Devs understand this aspect very well. They don't punish you or reward for taking specific choice. There is not cool elvish +10 katana for siding with Iorveth. Instead devs try to justify your decision. It adds to immersion and role play.

wright1978 said:
I'm just curious how CDPR will "sell" this to player which haven't read the books.
So your meeting Yennnefer and somebody maybe Dandelion says "hey Geralt, this is your true love...". (Just a bit exaggerated)
At least it is the choice of the player.
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But Geralt has no amnesia anymore. So for everyone who knows whats going on in witcher's universe, every choice besides Yennefer will be unbelievable and artificial. Sure, it will be quite a task for CDPR to convince those who didn't read the books, but they have to.
 
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wright1978

Senior user
#13
Jul 22, 2013
Steelydan said:
Geralt IS 100% predefined. Every single choice player makes in games suits Geralt's personality and can be easily justified. He is not one dimentional character, he somtimes helps folks in trouble, sometimes he doesn't. Depends. Devs understand this aspect very well. They don't punish you or reward for taking specific choices. There is not cool elvish +10 katana for siding with Iorveth. Instead devs try to justify your decision. It adds to immersion and role play.
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If Geralt is truly 100% defined the writers would have taken the book character & extrapolated the single set of choices that, that Geralt would make. Up to now as you say it has Geralt been geralt with a selection of choices that suit Geralt's personality & this extends to the women in his life. There's zero reason why this should suddenly change & move to a completely pre-set path.
 
JackalJ

JackalJ

Senior user
#14
Jul 22, 2013
Well I first want to see how they introduce yennefer in the game. Since she also has amnesia it could be interesting to see if she is the same person as in the books or if she even would recognize Geralt. So my choice would really depend on the story of TW3, but I guess with Ciri I have to choose Yen. (Let's just hope she forgives me for screwing around these past 2 games with Triss and... well... alot of other women.)
 
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geluranger

Rookie
#15
Jul 22, 2013
After learning so much about Triss in TW2, I would choose Yen any day(even without reading the books).
 
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tasir

Rookie
#16
Jul 22, 2013
Personally, I don't want any forced love interest (Yen, Triss or anyone else) in TW3, a forced LI would be a big disappointment for many players, including me. Thus I really hope that we will have an opportunity to choose between the ladies or to remain single. Also, in my opinion Geralt should be able to choose someone over Yennifer, since this is an RPG. Nevertheless I am very curious about how CDPR will solve this "true love" issue, I guess it's gonna be one of the biggest challenges for them.
 
JackalJ

JackalJ

Senior user
#17
Jul 22, 2013
geluranger said:
After learning so much about Triss in TW2, I would choose Yen any day(even without reading the books).
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*Spoiler*If you haven't played the game (TW2) or read the book do not read (It's a small spoiler from the book)*

If you are referring that Triss was part of the lodge of sorceresses, note that she herself says that she wans't part of it at anymore the end, even in the book (can't remember which one, I thought the last one.)it was explained that she "left" the lodge if I remember correctly.

(If any of this isn't true feel free to correct me, it's been awhile since i read the books.)

*/Spoiler*
 
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Arius87

Senior user
#18
Jul 22, 2013
Steelydan said:
But Geralt has no amnesia anymore. So for everyone who knows whats going on in witcher's universe, every choice besides Yennefer will be unbelievable and artificial. Sure, it will be quite a task for CDPR to convince those who didn't read the books, but they have to.
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You're right. For the "Sapkowski Geralt" the choice would be fine and easy. Geralt wouldn't just never came back to Triss because he knew that she's got feelings for him. But with this whole amnesia-thing it's difficult now.
Geralt would be an asshole if he just leaves her at the next opportunity.
I think Gregski is right. The dialouges between Geralt, Triss and Yennefer will be one of the most emotional in game.

By the way Sapkowski never said clearly that Geralt got no feelings for Triss at all.
 
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geluranger

Rookie
#19
Jul 22, 2013
jackalj said:
*Spoiler*If you haven't played the game (TW2) or read the book do not read (It's a small spoiler from the book)*

If you are referring that Triss was part of the lodge of sorceresses, note that she herself says that she wans't part of it at anymore the end, even in the book (can't remember which one, I thought the last one.)it was explained that she "left" the lodge if I remember correctly.

(If any of this isn't true feel free to correct me, it's been awhile since i read the books.)

*/Spoiler*
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I know she didn't take part to the latest plans of the Lodge but she did hide many things from Geralt. And need I mention the whole Rose of Remembrance crap?
 
Zanderat

Zanderat

Forum veteran
#20
Jul 22, 2013
Steelydan said:
Geralt IS 100% predefined. Every single choice player makes in games suits Geralt's personality and can be easily justified. He is not one dimentional character, he somtimes helps folks in trouble, sometimes he doesn't. Depends. Devs understand this aspect very well. They don't punish you or reward for taking specific choice. There is not cool elvish +10 katana for siding with Iorveth. Instead devs try to justify your decision. It adds to immersion and role play.


But Geralt has no amnesia anymore. So for everyone who knows whats going on in witcher's universe, every choice besides Yennefer will be unbelievable and artificial. Sure, it will be quite a task for CDPR to convince those who didn't read the books, but they have to.
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I disagree. Things have happened to Geralt since the events of the books. Who is to say that, even though he has regained his memories, that his experiences haven't changed his feelings, thoughts, and even loyalties?
 
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