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[TW1] [adventure] Yennefer's Valentine: a bite-sized adventure

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Oloroar

Rookie
#21
Feb 13, 2012
I just want to congratulate you on your most recent mod, Corylea. I am always glad to see new things being added to the witcher games. Hope to see more in the future .

I, unfortunately, will be skipping this one. Not a fan of Yennefer, more of a Triss person. Perhaps next valentine? ;)

You have motivated me into making my own mods should TW2 mod tools ever come out. Already got ideas spinning in my head.

Thanks for all your hard work!
 
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salutiferous

Senior user
#22
Feb 13, 2012
Thank you Cory. I will definitely check it out!
 
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secondchildren

Forum veteran
#23
Feb 13, 2012
Voted!

@Corylea
Didn't you want to announce it on DeviantArt as well? In case you wanna still do it, it's there at your disposal.
 
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Corylea.723

Ex-moderator
#24
Feb 14, 2012
Jobbert said:
Played it this morning and enjoyed it. :)
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I'm glad you enjoyed it!

Jobbert said:
It was very... rewarding. ;)
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Yennefer can be imperious and demanding, but there ARE compensations. ;)


Jobbert said:
I just want to congratulate you on your most recent mod, Corylea.
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It's very sweet of you to leave me a note for an adventure you don't even intend to play!


Jobbert said:
I, unfortunately, will be skipping this one. Not a fan of Yennefer, more of a Triss person.
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How many of the books have you read? When the only thing available in English was The Last Wish, I had a very negative impression of Yennefer. Yet the people who'd read all the books seemed to love her. Now that the fan translations are partway through The Tower of Swallow, my attitude towards Yen is thawing.

If you really wanted to play this adventure, it wouldn't take that long for me to make a Triss version. But I won't bother to make it unless someone actually wants it.

And of course, Triss is present at the end of "Medical Problems" and prominently featured in "Medical Problems 2," but Yennefer is not.

Jobbert said:
You have motivated me into making my own mods should TW2 mod tools ever come out. Already got ideas spinning in my head.
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I hope there will be mod tools; I look forward to seeing what you might make!


Jobbert said:
Thank you Cory. I will definitely check it out!
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Thanks, hon. I hope you will enjoy it. I tried to make Yennefer like her real self, but since the fan translations are only partway through The Tower of Swallow, I don't have the information from the last couple of books!


Jobbert said:
Voted!
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*smile* You're good to me, always. Thank you.

@Corylea
Didn't you want to announce it on DeviantArt as well? In case you wanna still do it, it's there at your disposal.
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I thought I'd make the announcement on Valentine's Day there, so there's be an early announcement on one forum and a timely announcement on the other one. I've just posted a journal entry over there; thanks so much for allowing me to do that!
 
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Oloroar

Rookie
#25
Feb 15, 2012
Corylea said:
It's very sweet of you to leave me a note for an adventure you don't even intend to play!
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Well I played it. I had to, considering how much effort you put into making it! You got my vote on the nexus too .

Corylea said:
How many of the books have you read? When the only thing available in English was The Last Wish, I had a very negative impression of Yennefer. Yet the people who'd read all the books seemed to love her. Now that the fan translations are partway through The Tower of Swallow, my attitude towards Yen is thawing.
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I actually haven't read the books, BUT I have read up on the characters and had discussions with people who have read them. As naive and insecure as she can sometimes be, I still prefer Triss .

Corylea said:
If you really wanted to play this adventure, it wouldn't take that long for me to make a Triss version. But I won't bother to make it unless someone actually wants it.
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I guess this is not relevant now that I have played the adventure, but I would never ask you to do that! You have already done more than enough. Besides, we Triss fans have had it good . The Yennefer fans deserve something special.

Corylea said:
I hope there will be mod tools; I look forward to seeing what you might make!
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So do I. The new engine looks so good, and there are so many models and objects to play around with. Given enough time, someone can make something truly special.
 
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secondchildren

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#26
Feb 15, 2012
DragonsDream said:
I actually haven't read the books, BUT I have read up on the characters and had discussions with people who have read them. As naive and insecure as she can sometimes be, I still prefer Triss .
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Well not that I mean to advocate Yennefer, she's a pice of bithc actually... LOL
But I do really hope you read the books some day, and then you can understand a lil more of her.

Unfortunaly, this is offtopic here, otherwise, I can tell you my reasons for hating firt/loving then Yen :)

I guess this is not relevant now that I have played the adventure, but I would never ask you to do that! You have already done more than enough. Besides, we Triss fans have had it good . The Yennefer fans deserve something special.
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Medical Problems (and specifically Medical Problems 2) can give you more than a sexy rendez-vous with your beloved Triss actually. It can also give you a couple of interesting topics to think about a little. Something to know more about the characters.

Although Corylea has never hidden that she definitely prefer Shani to Triss, she puts Triss in a splendid light in those adventures. I think that there are points where both Shani and Triss are even more interesting than in the main game.

She simply did an astonishing work there!

This is why I would like to see what she can do with Yennefer, I mean in another adventure of hers. Yennefer is a very interesting character.

Hey Corylea,
I'm not pushing you! I know that you working hard on something of your own. Just saying :)
 
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Oloroar

Rookie
#27
Feb 15, 2012
secondchildren said:
Well not that I mean to advocate Yennefer, she's a pice of bithc actually... LOL
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Wow, that is one hell of an insult....at least I think it is?

I do plan on reading the books someday, I do love all things witcher after all. However, I want to see how CDPR works these characters into the games first. The introduction of Yennefer and the love triangle in the next game should be interesting.

I never shy away from discussions about the characters. If you want to talk about your hate/love relationship with Yennefer, feel free to message me .


secondchildren said:
Medical Problems (and specifically Medical Problems 2) can give you more than a sexy rendez-vous with your beloved Triss actually. It can also give you a couple of interesting topics to think about a little. Something to know more about the characters.

Although Corylea has never hidden that she definitely prefer Shani to Triss, she puts Triss in a splendid light in those adventures. I think that there are points where both Shani and Triss are even more interesting than in the main game.
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I'll be honest and say that I usually avoided adventures that dealt with existing characters because I simply wasn't sure if they were true to the characters or not. Of course, that was before I knew medical problems was made by Corylea (before I joined these forums). Now that I have your recommendation as well, I plan on playing them very soon.
 
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secondchildren

Forum veteran
#28
Feb 15, 2012
DragonsDream said:
Wow, that is one hell of an insult....at least I think it is?
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And also horribly mispelled /
Sorry, didin't mean to be harsh. Sometimes I put aside my moderator hat and forget the basics :p

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It's not exaclty an insult: it's basically what she looks like to readers. Yennefer in fact is quite bitchy, but I've learnt to love her. Some people in another thread said that Triss in Tw1 is a soft version of Yennefer. It's true. W1-Triss is waaay different from the books. W2 Triss probably is more similar. And this is one of the reasons for liking her less than in W1.
/Offtopic

I do plan on reading the books someday, I do love all things witcher after all. However, I want to see how CDPR works these characters into the games first. The introduction of Yennefer and the love triangle in the next game should be interesting.
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I think there won't be any triangle, just the player choice to choose between the two. It never was in the books actually, even if Triss had a crush for Geralt. But Geralt is entirely and truly devoted to "bitchy-Yennefer"

Sorry for the offtopic

I never shy away from discussions about the characters. If you want to talk about your hate/love relationship with Yennefer, feel free to message me .
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Thanks :p
I was thinking to a public discussion actually, I'd like to have other people's opinions, especially of those who read the whole saga. I didn't unfortunatly.

Ah yes, I've found the correct thread--> http://en.thewitcher.com/forum/index.php?/topic/25349-triss-or-yennefer-possible-spoiler/

I'll be honest and say that I usually avoided adventures that dealt with existing characters because I simply wasn't sure if they were true to the characters or not. Of course, that was before I knew medical problems was made by Corylea (before I joined these forums). Now that I have your recommendation as well, I plan on playing them very soon.
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Yes I understand.
Well I can only speak for myself about those adventures: they're both far beyond a cunning, smart, clever vision of the Witcher world. Corylea read the saga (I think the fan translations at least) and she was able to picture the character very well. They're very close to the original. I mean that there's a great knowledge and a great respect of both Sapkowski's and CDP work. In one occasion (specifically in MP2) she surprizingly was able to forsee the future, happenings that you'll witness in W2. I still wonder how she could, since she knew nothing about W2 story before the game releasing. But she did. Truly, you may receive a big surprize in playing it!

Anyway, it's not in my position to change your mind, neither to convince you to play it :)
This is my mere opinion.
 
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salutiferous

Senior user
#29
Feb 17, 2012
Dear Cory,
I have just came back home from a short holiday - look PM.
I am intend to play the quest this weekend - will post more then.
 
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salutiferous

Senior user
#30
Feb 18, 2012
The topic with your quest already had a few positive replies on the Polish forum!
One person have a problem with subtitles. He/She changed language to English BUT he hasn't got an option for subtitles. What he means is there isn't such option in the menu. Any ideas why? (there is only option for voice-overs)
 
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Corylea.723

Ex-moderator
#31
Feb 18, 2012
salutiferous said:
The topic with your quest already had a few positive replies on the Polish forum!
One person have a problem with subtitles. He/She changed language to English BUT he hasn't got an option for subtitles. What he means is there isn't such option in the menu. Any ideas why? (there is only option for voice-overs)
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That's VERY weird! Nothing I do in the adventure can change what's in the Options menu; all of that is controlled by things that happen before the adventure even loads. Has this person played anything in English before? I'm thinking that a missing option sounds like it might be a problem in the language pack. But Tommy or Guy N'Wah are probably your best bets for solving a problem that's occurring at the level of the game, rather than at the level of the adventure.

I've heard of people having this problem before -- not with "Yennefer's Valentine," just in general -- and sometimes they can change their options by opening their game with Djinni, instead of with the launcher, changing their text language in Djinni, then closing Djinni and starting the game normally.

To change the text language in Djinni, start up Djinni. At the top of the screen, on the left, will be menus labelled File, Module, Edit, View, Game, Audio, Tools, Window, and Help.

Select the View menu. You'll be given the options Utility Windows, Toolbars, Text Language, Vocal Language, and Status Bar. Click on "Text Language" and move your cursor across to whichever language you want and click on the box in front of it; a check-mark should appear.

Close Djinni, start up the game, and it should be in the language you just selected.
 
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salutiferous

Senior user
#32
Feb 19, 2012
It seems kind of weird to me as well. Some advised re-instalation of the game. The cause of the problem was most likely installing patches, language packs "in a wrong order". Now waiting for reply whether re-instalation solved it.
 
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username_2093396

Senior user
#33
Feb 20, 2012
Corylea said:
When you get around to playing it, I'll be interested to hear what you thought of it.
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I haven't had much time to play games lately, but I finally finished both paths :D I think you did a good job with Zoltan's and Dandelion's personalities. I could hear their voice actors in my head as I read the dialogue :p I notice that you reused Zoltan's house from Medical Problems 2, which was a nice touch because it made this little adventure feel connected to your previous adventures.

And on Dandelion's path that poem that Geralt came up with was hilarious I was also glad that you put the option to give Dandelion a present too because I felt bad thinking that he wanted the fancy presents so much but couldn't afford them himself.

As for the final cutscene, I over-think things too much and I thought it was a little strange for Yennefer to be completely naked while Geralt is fully clothed :p But don't mind me. I certainly don't want to ruin everyone else's fun :p As for the animation itself, I wonder if it was meant to be with Triss originally. I remember Shani had a custom animation but I don't think Triss did, although my Triss play-through was years ago so it's possible I just forgot.
 
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Oloroar

Rookie
#34
Feb 20, 2012
WardDragon said:
And on Dandelion's path that poem that Geralt came up with was hilarious I was also glad that you put the option to give Dandelion a present too because I felt bad thinking that he wanted the fancy presents so much but couldn't afford them himself.
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LOL, I forgot about that poem! It indeed was epic. I wish I could hear Geralt (english) voice act it...I imagine it would sound so wrong. I guess sorceresses care little for poetry, since Geralt keeps getting them without any talent what so ever.

As for feeling sorry for Dandelion, I almost did - then I remembered how he claimed that Geralt had trouble pleasing women in TW1. Bastard can burn for all I care :p.
 
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Corylea.723

Ex-moderator
#35
Feb 20, 2012
WardDragon said:
I think you did a good job with Zoltan's and Dandelion's personalities. I could hear their voice actors in my head as I read the dialogue :p
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I'm very glad to hear that! That's how I write dialogue for the known characters, actually -- I imagine hearing their voice actor speak it. There have been times when writing dialogue (in "Medical Problems," not here) where I couldn't imagine a particular voice saying whatever it was, so I changed the line until I could get the voice to come back. And sometimes the changes would be fairly small, but I couldn't get Shani's voice to appear in my head until I said THIS instead of THAT.

I hope that doesn't make me sound certifiable. :p


WardDragon said:
I notice that you reused Zoltan's house from Medical Problems 2, which was a nice touch because it made this little adventure feel connected to your previous adventures.
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*smile* I'm glad you noticed that! We don't have any idea how Zoltan lives, so I couldn't make his house match up to what was in the main game (and if his house is in the books at all, it's in a part that hasn't been translated yet), but at least I can be consistent within my own stuff.


WardDragon said:
And on Dandelion's path that poem that Geralt came up with was hilarious
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*smile* Yes, it was great fun to make up a truly bad poem. I shared it with my husband, who said, "But, but ... that's TERRIBLE! You can't use that." "No, no, you don't understand -- it's SUPPOSED TO be bad."


WardDragon said:
I was also glad that you put the option to give Dandelion a present too because I felt bad thinking that he wanted the fancy presents so much but couldn't afford them himself.
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Both Zoltan and Dandelion get something out of helping Geralt with his dilemma -- Zoltan gets his "beasties" killed, and Dandelion gets an expensive ingredient.


WardDragon said:
As for the final cutscene, I over-think things too much and I thought it was a little strange for Yennefer to be completely naked while Geralt is fully clothed :p
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Yes, it DOES seem strange. If we had a nude model for Geralt in TW1, I would certainly use it, but unfortunately, there isn't one. There isn't even a model where he isn't wearing GLOVES. Sheesh. At least I can get his vest off of him; that's the best I can do.


WardDragon said:
As for the animation itself, I wonder if it was meant to be with Triss originally. I remember Shani had a custom animation but I don't think Triss did, although my Triss play-through was years ago so it's possible I just forgot.
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Yes, it is an animation for Triss, so much so that the Triss model has that animation but none of the other female models do. I might have recolored Blue Eyes to be Yennefer, so she wouldn't look so much like Triss, but Triss was the only one I could make the cutscene with.

Triss does have a special animation that you get at the beginning of Chapter 3 -- the one where she puts both hands on Geralt's chest and pushes him backwards onto the bed -- but that's not as sexy as the one they chose not to use.



WardDragon said:
LOL, I forgot about that poem!
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Perhaps you suppressed the memory, because hearing such bad poetry is so traumatic. :D


WardDragon said:
I wish I could hear Geralt (english) voice act it...I imagine it would sound so wrong.
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Really? I can imagine Doug Cockle saying it just fine, myself, with a dry, humorous intonation intended to convey that he COULD do better than this but doesn't intend to waste his time on poetry.

*sigh* Every time I play one of my adventures, I wish I could hear the voice actors doing the lines for real, instead of just in my head. I know exactly how every line is supposed to sound, so I could direct them just fine. I'm sure they're glad they don't have to put up with that. ;)


WardDragon said:
I guess sorceresses care little for poetry, since Geralt keeps getting them without any talent what so ever.
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I imagine sorceresses get plenty of poetry declaimed to them by the people in their usual circles ... and Geralt is a welcome change from their usual world.
 
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username_2093396

Senior user
#36
Feb 21, 2012
Corylea said:
I'm very glad to hear that! That's how I write dialogue for the known characters, actually -- I imagine hearing their voice actor speak it. There have been times when writing dialogue (in "Medical Problems," not here) where I couldn't imagine a particular voice saying whatever it was, so I changed the line until I could get the voice to come back. And sometimes the changes would be fairly small, but I couldn't get Shani's voice to appear in my head until I said THIS instead of THAT.

I hope that doesn't make me sound certifiable. :p
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I'm the one who brought up hearing voices in my head in the first place :p In all seriousness I think that's a really good way to try to keep the characters in-character :D
 
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secondchildren

Forum veteran
#37
Mar 7, 2012
I've just created a page for Yennefer's valentine on WWiki --> http://witcher.wikia.com/wiki/Yennefer%27s_Valentine

Corylea, please could you check if it's all correct? part of the info I've copied and pasted directly from Corylea.com.
 
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Corylea.723

Ex-moderator
#38
Mar 9, 2012
secondchildren said:
I've just created a page for Yennefer's valentine on WWiki --> http://witcher.wikia.com/wiki/Yennefer%27s_Valentine
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Thank you, hon! It's very sweet of you to add this to the Witcher Wiki.
 
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whitelder

Rookie
#39
Mar 19, 2012
I am intrigued... would love a Triss version but I have not met Yennefer yet so cant really say that either :)
Oh and can someone up my reputation please, it seems to be on negative 3 for some reason, I didn't think my noobish questions would warrant that :(
 
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secondchildren

Forum veteran
#40
Mar 19, 2012
whitelder said:
I am intrigued... would love a Triss version but I have not met Yennefer yet so cant really say that either :)
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Well, speaking about additional Witcher adventures, if you want to see more Geralt and Triss (or even decide of their future), I suggest you to play Corylea's Medical Problems too. It's in two chapters: chp 1 mainly features Shani, and Chp 2, Triss and Shani. And you can also meet once more the witchers of Kaer Morhen.

Link to Medical Problems 1-2 it's in the banner of my signature, below.
 
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