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[TW1][mod] Full Combat Rebalance v1.3 RC

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ludna

Senior user
#861
Jul 20, 2010
Of course I did moving. However it doesn't happen in the video.Just another question. Do you know whats the trigger point for the cut scene is ? I managed to reduce the VP of both almost to half. However, you said the rigger point is about 2500. That's why the VP in the lua file is about 2600 for both. So that would mean in my case there are at about 1500-1800 VP. So the cut scene are suppossed to trigger already. Or do I miss something ?
 

Guest 2081505

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#862
Jul 20, 2010
anduls said:
The only time I won, Azar stood at the door for a long time.
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Yes, and this is the little secret of all the three videos concerning this fight.Neither Azar nor the professor are true opponents for Geralt - if they are alone. But working together they form a deadly team.In the three videos Geralt avoids the real fight. They all begin in the lower corner of the planche; Azar Javed takes part in the fight, when it's almost over. And so Geralt wins as easily as in vanilla.
anduls said:
So don't know who recorded the fights you sent me Flash, but for the sword fight I would argue that's impossible without cheat. A soon as Azar is behind me, it's a sudden death let alone keeping on fighting for at last 5 s. An I used Quen as well.
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No, the sword fight is possible, but - as Flash stated - you have to avoid to fight against both of them at the same time. I have made a video demonstrating the technique I described above (in the upper part of page 57):http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yneSE9pF1ow
 
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Flash

CD PROJEKT RED
#863
Jul 20, 2010
Nice vid Max :)You make Camarilla proud :p
anduls said:
Do you know whats the trigger point for the cut scene is ?
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Modders have no access to source of the script that launches the cutscene. I've checked it by playtesting and it's working correctly. You just have to know that cutscene is launched with some delay after you inflict required damage.
anduls said:
So that would mean in my case there are at about 1500-1800 VP. So the cut scene are suppossed to trigger already. Or do I miss something ?
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That is only guessing. Might be that you need to attack regardless of starting HP.
 
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ludna

Senior user
#864
Jul 21, 2010
I did it a 2nd time, I won against Azar and the professor. This time I fought both at the same time. Unfortunately I don't have a video, but my impressions for the cut scene to trigger:Both VP was about 1/2. Hard to guess, but I would say not more than VP=1500 . Then I just run around to avoid further hits and yes, suddenly the cut scene appeared. So I'm still not sure if it was a timer delay or the bleeding causes further VP losses. But my guess is the delay, as Flash suggested. So,my stats were steel strong 3 with diamond powder, Dex 4, Strength 3, Quen 1.My recommendation for the fight is, hit both quickly, whats not that hard and then keep moving until the timer delay is over, maybe that's helps.
 
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Flash

CD PROJEKT RED
#865
Jul 21, 2010
Btw. dex level 4 means that you are under level 20. You are underleveled for this fight.
 

Guest 2081505

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#866
Jul 21, 2010
Flash said:
Nice vid Max :)You make Camarilla proud :p
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Ha ha, thx, Flash, I hope so. If nobody watches me, I use blood magics, for sure.
Flash said:
But my guess is the delay, as Flash suggested.
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Right. After a sucessful hit they lose health for some time. During my experiments sometimes the cut scene was triggered when Geralt was out of reach - far away at the other end of the planche.I suppose the sum of the damage is crucial. Sometimes Geralt nearly hits only one of them leading to the cut scene.
Flash said:
My recommendation for the fight is, hit both quickly, whats not that hard and then keep moving until the timer delay is over, maybe that's helps.
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I don't know if this strategy is sufficient on "normal" (I never played FCR on normal.). On "insane" it's deadly. One single hit may stun Geralt, and that's the end of the fight in most cases. If you want to know if your recommodation is a good one, try to repeat the fight three times or so.
 
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ludna

Senior user
#867
Jul 21, 2010
"I don't know if this strategy is sufficient on "normal" (I never played FCR on normal.). On "insane" it's deadly. One single hit may stun Geralt, and that's the end of the fight in most cases. If you want to know if your recommodation is a good one, try to repeat the fight three times or so."Ok I will try today and tell you. I play on normal. But as I said, I managed to reduce a lot of VP from both opponents however the cut scene didn't trigger. I tried to reduce even more and got killed. However if I hit them both in the first wave, then maybe a second time it was quite enough, then starting to move around and keep jumping leads to the cut scene.
 
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Mothra

Forum veteran
#868
Jul 21, 2010
Flash said:
2. on FCR you nerfed them substantially and Igni, especially Yrden are little poopers
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1. I haven't touched vanilla game since I made Flash Mod 2 years ago.2. NERF => http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2NP1HIGrG4[/QUOTE]well that Yrden trap releases more than 4 charges which means its levelled up beyond 2 and the prerequesites of my post: low lvl yrden in FCR are not met. If I put all talents in Yrden the time I get it together with Place of Power/Midnight/PetrisPhiliter I can reach that point in FCR. It's still a pooper compared to Vanilla so I can't see it "breaking" FCR or being overpowered. And it's a human in the video which are very weak in FCR imo. compared to .... graveirs/fleders for examplebut if you think more nerf is necessary....I don't have the hard facts/numbers to judge it. It's purely subjective after playing Vanilla Hard and FCR hard.
 
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mungo13

Senior user
#869
Jul 21, 2010
Flash - what makes mages to be such witcher-killers? They use magic, ignores physics wheh fighting with that rod, have supernatural reflexes? Sorry, from world of books I know only short stories - from Saga I have 2 books but from the end, as it is desperately sold out. And I want to start reading fromt the first one, not the last one :(About the game:- Yrden is .. ,still simply waste of energy. Alghoul, Ghoul, Bloedziger - all of them were sometimes affected by it, Just Bloedziger was once almost killed, but too many times all of them just run/crawled through and discharge had no effect. I don't know, whether games calculate some probability, but from vanilla I remember only Kosczey to ignore/not activate it. All the rest was repeatedly thrown back again and again when trying to move forward. Yes, the poor wolves were killed by 2-3 hits with no free passage, that fat leech at-least suffered sometimes, but alghouls and ghouls were like immune. I would say that 9 times from 10 they ran just through trap, ignoring that one discharge. And when they are hit - damage is very low if any noticable (and I thing that health ring shows it quite well) Yrden, Lvl 2 with upgrades + Intell Lvl 3.- Quen - I just got it, upgrade to Lvl. 2 and put bronze to "life sphere" - or how it is called. Now - shouldn't it last even during fight? I know that 6-7 seconds is short time, but I cast spell hit enemy once and effect is away.------second - that life sphere upgrade says something about Vitality regen 3 points/second. That should be a nice boost - but I again casted spell and when it disappeared, both endurance and vitality bars were almost unchanged - vitality raised by 1 point - more probably due to natural regeneration- btw., that scream wave attack used by fledder - is it physical / magical attack? Can it be deflected by dodge/parry or sign - quen/heliotrop?- and one general question about game itself - does anybody knows how are all these probabilities applied? Whether the game simply throws the dice every time, all it picks up some pool of throws? Trouble is, that you don't know, how many attempts your enemy makes, but i.e. fighting alghoul is sometimes ordinary fight, when Geralt may or may not get some scratches, but many times at one moment it is just "hit, hit, hit, hit, hit" Also dice game seems usually to be pretty strange (not in my favour of course) :)))
 

Guest 2081505

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#870
Jul 21, 2010
Flash said:
1. Yrden is a very powerful Sign. Sometimes more powerful than Igni.
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Flash said:
- Yrden is .. ,still simply waste of energy.
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Who is right? Both of you, I think - in some way. In some situations Yrden is overpowered:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ki0Kg7mxOj8On the other hand a lot of the bigger monsters ignore Yrden, that's my impression, too.
Flash said:
...but from vanilla I remember only Kosczey to ignore/not activate it.
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Negative. The Koshchey in vanilla is an excellent victim for Yrden-trap:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOu2WZ2qvZMAnd this has'nt changed in FCR:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-1COy0RbIImungo13, I share with you the disappointment concerning Quen, even on the highest level. I fear it doesn't work very well; sometimes I was not sure if it has an significant impact.
 
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mungo13

Senior user
#871
Jul 21, 2010
Max Strauss: OK, Yrden is powerfull - very powerfull sign, IF it works. For a moment - it's too unreliable. Except for that bunch of wolves who were decimated by it (but it was close to druid post, so I had it boosted by Ring of power) no any enemy was reliably hurt - many of them simply ignores it. It looks same to work same as sword attack does - anything below protection of the enemy is a miss. (by the way - I tried many times to hit fledder with aard and it didn't even moved him, I hit air, but not fledder - although my aard was only at Lvl. 1).So I don't, whether there is something hidden deeper ingame. Maybe I can try to boost it to Lvl. 3 and made another tests. About Koshchey - in vanilla - I fought him and he ignored the yrden traps or suffered only minor damage. Next time, when I was testing various tactics and potions combination, he was badly hit. I am not disappointed by Quen for the moment, as I have it only at Lvl.2 and I did only a few tests. In vanilla game, it was badly overpowered - blocked all damage, lasted very long and regenerated your Endurance, so you could stand, keep recasting it and watch your enemies hitting it and making damage to themselves. And then draw a sword, cast Igni and finished them - it was not only the most powerfull sign, it was a cheat :))Now, I don't know, whether it gave me any protection for that fraction of time and I don't know what that that bronze upgrade is about, because I have noticed no effect :(
 
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TheSilver

Forum veteran
#872
Jul 22, 2010
Well, I'm entirely sure that this has been brough up before and answered, but bear with me please, eh.I presume that something with FCR made my beloved over the shoulder camera, F3, changed to a first person view. Is there a way change that back again?P.s. I might have said it before, but it is good to see a Tremere around here, Max Strauss.
 

Guest 2081505

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#873
Jul 22, 2010
TheSilver said:
I presume that something with FCR made my beloved over the shoulder camera, F3, changed to a first person view. Is there a way change that back again?
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Hi, Silver. Changing the view was one of my first actions beginning with FCR, so I remember well Flash's solution of the problem:
TheSilver said:
It's not replaced. You can zoom out to OTS.If you still don't like it, you can edit or delete CameraSettings.2da in ...\The Witcher\DATA\z_FCR\2da folder.
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Easy change!
 
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mungo13

Senior user
#874
Jul 22, 2010
Silver - another solution:when I just removed that file, I got strange result with camera fixed at big distance, strange side-tilt and completly unzoomable.So backup the file and test. But you can also modify its content (backup before it :) )Important value is the last line marked TPPOriginal value (pseudo-1st-person): Setting MinTilt MaxTilt MinDist MaxDist MinDesiredTilt MaxDesiredTilt MinDesiredDist MaxDesiredDist FOV4 TPP 5.0 140.0 -0.1 3.8 5.0 140.0 -0.1 3.8 70.0My values4 TPP 5.0 140.0 -1.1 3.8 0.0 140.0 1.5 3.8 70.0What you want to play with is Min/MaxDesiredDist which are values for the camera distance that game try to keep - whenever possible. Tilt is side-offset. I prefer Tilt to by as low as possible, otherwise Geralt is to the side of the centre and it's hard to keem him moving precisely in tiny space - you want to go to the door, put the crosshair on them and Geralt hits the wall next to the door (real, tested :)))) )My values are I think close to the original game - at least appearance seem to be very similar, camera is closely behing Geralt and you see him almost completely. But if you prefer higher default distance for better overview, increase MinDesiredDist
 
Mothra

Mothra

Forum veteran
#875
Jul 22, 2010
MaxStrauss said:
MaxStrauss said:
1. Yrden is a very powerful Sign. Sometimes more powerful than Igni.
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MaxStrauss said:
- Yrden is .. ,still simply waste of energy.
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Who is right? Both of you, I think - in some way. In some situations Yrden is overpowered:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ki0Kg7mxOj8On the other hand a lot of the bigger monsters ignore Yrden, that's my impression, too.
MaxStrauss said:
...but from vanilla I remember only Kosczey to ignore/not activate it.
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Negative. The Koshchey in vanilla is an excellent victim for Yrden-trap:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOu2WZ2qvZMAnd this has'nt changed in FCR:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-1COy0RbIImungo13, I share with you the disappointment concerning Quen, even on the highest level. I fear it doesn't work very well; sometimes I was not sure if it has an significant impact.
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I tried Yrden on the WildHunt as well but his health regen was so high he gained almost 1/3 of his health back once the trap was used up. Yrden is a good sign for chokepoints and inbetween fights if you need breathing room but it aint a godmode like Igni.
 
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TheSilver

Forum veteran
#876
Jul 23, 2010
Thank you, Max Strauss. Zooming out did change the camera.I should have come up with that by myself, alas, it seems I didn't. :)Thanks again!
 
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noble6

Forum regular
#877
Jul 26, 2010
i cant get a Book called "Shadow People, or the story of His Majesty's Secret Service" because cant win Thaler in drinki -.-
 
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mungo13

Senior user
#878
Jul 26, 2010
noble6 said:
i cant get a Book called "Shadow People, or the story of His Majesty's Secret Service" because cant win Thaler in drinki -.-
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it's not related to FCR, but:eek:h, do you know, that you can interrupt the drinking competition? And restart it later.You are of course pretty drunken at the moment. But your companion is also. But he is not a witcher ...I can give you just a direct answer, but let's show you the way at first. OK, it maybe cannot help you, if you are playing game for the first time or if you don't have something yet. Then just ask again - it's very simple.
 

Guest 2081505

Guest
#879
Jul 28, 2010
One question concerning the swords: Which sword is the better one, aerondight or rune blade mmm?I don't know how you have to calculate with the 45% silver sensivity. At which point of the calculation it will be applied?In practice I tried both swords - no remarkable difference in my eyes.
 
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Flash

CD PROJEKT RED
#880
Jul 28, 2010
45% silver sensitivity is (final damage - enemy armor) x 1.45
 
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