TW2 Performance in game is horrible

[jhacon]

TW2 Performance in game is horrible

Hello Everyone,

I have been trying to play this game for a while now but the performance once inside the game is horrible.

The first thing I did was turn off the Vsync (which was causing the mouse lag) and turned down all settings so that I can work my way up by adding back higher settings to isolate the problem.

On the first shot and on the menu screen, the mouse lag was completely gone. I thought to myself, yes this is going to fix it.

then I started a new game (with the tutorial) and boom.....

the mouse lag was back and with a vengeance and the FPS was just unplayable.

FYI - I play a ton of other games and do not have this issue.

Here are my basic specs:

OS Name Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium
Version 6.1.7601 Service Pack 1 Build 7601
System Manufacturer Hewlett-Packard
System Model h8-1240t
System Type x64-based PC
Processor Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-2600 CPU @ 3.40GHz, 3401 Mhz, 4 Core(s), 8 Logical Processor(s)
BIOS Version/Date AMI 7.09, 3/14/2012
SMBIOS Version 2.7
Installed Physical Memory (RAM) 10.0 GB
Total Physical Memory 9.96 GB
Available Physical Memory 7.68 GB
Total Virtual Memory 19.9 GB
Available Virtual Memory 17.4 GB
Page File Space 9.96 GB

AMD Radeon HD 7570

 

[vaulrize]

Try turn off ultrasampling

 

[GuyNwah]

With just a 7570 (which is a relabeled 6570), you can expect at best modest performance at low to medium settings and reduced resolution.

This game drives the GPU very hard, and the number of pixels you have to put on the screen makes a big difference in frame rate and responsiveness to the controls.

Try reducing the resolution to 1280x720; if this is inconvenient for your monitor, try running it in windowed mode (set Fullscreen to Disabled).

 

[jhacon]

With just a 7570 (which is a relabeled 6570), you can expect at best modest performance at low to medium settings and reduced resolution.

This game drives the GPU very hard, and the number of pixels you have to put on the screen makes a big difference in frame rate and responsiveness to the controls.

Try reducing the resolution to 1280x720; if this is inconvenient for your monitor, try running it in windowed mode (set Fullscreen to Disabled).

OK, this is interesting. I dabbled with the settings a bit. I tried to use the auto detect.

Ubersampling was disabled using auto detect.

but a lot of the other settings were fairly high. I also disabled Vsync because that is known to cause mouse lag.

I kept myh screen resolution at its highest as well.

Fired her up....

The menu screen mouse movement was smooth as silk.

then in the game, I noticed that the mouse movement when inside the inventory was just as smooth. But when the loot menu popped up or when you hit ESC, that menu was very sluggish. Also, when the in-game mouse comes up to select dialogue its sluggish.

Movement in the game was not terrible but also not ultra responsive.

Now here is the funny thing. when doing the tutorial, it seems very sluggish even when there is no mouse or menu. but when playing the actual game, the movement was not bad. Mouse movement was perfect in the inventory menu, but horrible elsewhere.

Strange, no ?

 

[bullsheet.646]

i had this same issue of sluggish mouse movement ... i dont know about amd but in nvidia control panel there is an option of adaptive vsync which corrected my problem ... oh n turn off vsync from the game configurator ... also disable cinematic depth of field ... ull notice a huge difference in your fps ... other than that just keep playing with settings ... lowering your resolution and all that stuff

 

[Sirnaq]

That's because tutorial area is not well optimized. Im playing tw2 with 60fps usually but in some location performance drops to 40 something.

 

[jhacon]

Hi GUY,

Wow, I almost forgot I had started this topic back in FEB 2013.

Thanks for the reminder !

OK, here is what I did. Drop res to 1280 x 720 and turned all advanced settings to disabled.

Texture Downscaling to HIGH
Texture Memory Size to Large

fullscreen is enabled as I refuse to play the game in a small box.

Fraps running in the background

Started the tutorial and ran at around 30-35 FPS which is not bad.

OK, I then quit and restarted, skipped tutorial and jumped right into the main game.

All cut scenes clean. The mouse still a little laggy but not as bad as before.

Normal gameplay around 30-35 FPS.

Much better than 15-20 but still.....with everything turned off and res at 1280 x 720, you would think it would be better, no ?

thanks for everyone's feedback.

 

[GuyNwah]

About right for a 7570. In this thread, where you also posted: http://en.thewitcher.com/forum/index.php?/topic/37652-unplayable-fps-on-lowest-settings-solid-rig/ I predicted you should get about 28 fps.

The 7570 is barely an entry-level graphics card for this game. It has a slow clock (650 MHz) and just 8 output processors. There just isn't a way to force more pixels through it.

 

[jhacon]

About right for a 7570. In this thread, where you also posted: http://en.thewitcher.com/forum/index.php?/topic/37652-unplayable-fps-on-lowest-settings-solid-rig/ I predicted you should get about 28 fps.

The 7570 is barely an entry-level graphics card for this game. It has a slow clock (650 MHz) and just 8 output processors. There just isn't a way to force more pixels through it.

Guy - I read this and the other post and wanted to thank you for this precise answer.

I can now stop tormenting myself by trying to update a card/driver that will never run TW2 at anything higher than a low-med spec.

The question now becomes, what kind of GPU will suffice for TW3.

As much as I would love to run out and upgrade my card in order to experience TW2 with high end specs, it would financially make no sense to do it now. So.....any idea what the recommended specs would be for TW3?

thanks again !!!

 

[GuyNwah]

Guy - I read this and the other post and wanted to thank you for this precise answer.

I can now stop tormenting myself by trying to update a card/driver that will never run TW2 at anything higher than a low-med spec.

The question now becomes, what kind of GPU will suffice for TW3.

As much as I would love to run out and upgrade my card in order to experience TW2 with high end specs, it would financially make no sense to do it now. So.....any idea what the recommended specs would be for TW3?

thanks again !!!

I have no good idea how well existing cards will perform with TW3. It depends on how much use they make of APEX effects and how much the render pipeline has been changed from TW2's edition of Red Engine.

But extrapolating from what has been said about the use of APEX and PhysX, and the way TW2's Red Engine uses the output stage heavily, I'm thinking the nVidia cards with 32 or 48 output processors will outperform others. This means the GTX 560, 670, 760, and up. The 780, 780Ti, and Titan would be a big step up, and a 660 or 660Ti would be a big step down.

Back to TW2. My favorite among newer cards that play TW2 well is the HD 7870. Since AMD came out with the R9 cards, its price has been driven down to where you can get it for as low as $120 if you shop carefully.

But with an HP and their use of crap power supplies (usually 300W in that model), I'm not sure about upgrading that far without also upgrading the power supply. A good upgrade that you can do easily and cheaply without replacing even a 300W power supply is the HD 7750. You can get one for $70 without shopping too much.

 

[waltc.480]

Back to TW2. My favorite among newer cards that play TW2 well is the HD 7870. Since AMD came out with the R9 cards, its price has been driven down to where you can get it for as low as $120 if you shop carefully.

But with an HP and their use of crap power supplies (usually 300W in that model), I'm not sure about upgrading that far without also upgrading the power supply. A good upgrade that you can do easily and cheaply without replacing even a 300W power supply is the HD 7750. You can get one for $70 without shopping too much.

You might get a kick out of this, Guy...looked up the Amazon model and opened the specs page and it said "power = battery".../> I think that's what they're calling 300W PSU's today.../> I bought the 2-gig 7850 and it overclocks to ~1GHz core ROOB with no voltage hike, so good recommendation on the 7870! I think they get away with low-performance PSU's in these desktop configs by slapping in very weak GPUs that just sip power--which is fine, but only if you know what you're doing when you order the configuration, and I think most people probably don't.

Would that everyone would simply build his own box these days! They'd be amazed at how easy it is and what a boon it can mean to quality and performance, etc. Ah, well.

 

[GuyNwah]

Yeah, Amazon's proofreading leaves a lot to be desired.

As near as I can tell, HP offers three VERY different power supplies on the h8-1240t.

The 300W base model appears to be a Bestec. It's not as awful as the old Bestecs, but any Bestec is bad news. I would never put extra load on a Bestec; that 300W is already an imaginative work of fiction.

The 460W model appears to be a Delta, comparable to the Antec Earthwatts 500D (HP's rating is less optimistic than Antec's). Delta is actually good. I wouldn't hesitate to use a middle-of-the-road GPU (150W TDP or less) with that power supply.

I haven't traced the 600W model. HP wants an arm and a leg for it, so it's not popular.