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TW3 is my favourite rpg of all time. anyone else feel like tw3 ruined every other rpg, and feel discouraged from other games

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Charcharo

Rookie
#121
Jun 18, 2015
IoriYagami76 said:
Ok. It's subjective thing. The Witcher 3 is the pinnacle of gameplay design. Quite subjective to say so.
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Yes. Subjectively, to me, warts and all, it is the pinnacle of RPG game design.

Was it so hard?
 
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IoriYagami76

Banned
#122
Jun 18, 2015
No it isn't hard, but it is a lame way to view things. In this way everything is subjective, very easy to avoid valid points from different standing points. Very childish to say so. And unproductive.
 
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Charcharo

Rookie
#123
Jun 18, 2015
IoriYagami76 said:
No it isn't hard, but it is a lame way to view things. In this way everything is subjective, very easy to avoid valid points from different standing points.
Very childish to say so.
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Now you are committing 2 more mistakes.

Not EVERYTHING is subjective. Graphical fidelity is objective (art style is subjective). Sound quality is objective (sound design is subjective). AI is objective (AI tasks and spacing is subjective).
Game size can be objective (what you do with the size is subjective).

Managing to discuss subjective qualities in a work of art (as critique has been doing for thousands of years) is quite valid and dare I say very important. But it is also not as easy as it seems.
You need to have vast gaming knowledge, understand literary concepts and even the technology behind a game, the historical context, cultural context and be able to identify what it actually wants to do with itself to be able to give at LEAST valid critique.
This is the reason some ... reviewers ... from certain sites... suck so much. They dont even have what equates to elementary school knowledge of literature. They should not be reviewing anything really.

I dont want to come of as an ass... but I think that neither the "arena" we use here is good enough, nor are we quite on that level to create valid and interesting critique.
 
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IoriYagami76

Banned
#124
Jun 18, 2015
You can stay immersed in a bubble of subjectives, it's fine by me. I'd rather have a comprehensible discussion about the points which clearly seems broken with the gameplay.But there is no point in that. Your mind is already made. I'm happy for you, being able to enjoy the game in it's current state. Alas.. It's subjective.. lol... (jk)
 
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Charcharo

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#125
Jun 18, 2015
IoriYagami76 said:
You can stay immersed in a bubble of subjectives, it's fine by me. I'd rather have a comprehensible discussion about the points which clearly seems broken with the gameplay.But there is no point in that. Your mind is already made. I'm happy for you, being able to enjoy the game in it's current state. Alas.. It's subjective.. lol... (jk)
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Is English your native language? Or at least second or third language?

Re-read what I wrote. I dont see you (or I at this point in time) leveling real and serious critique that would be taken well by both fans and detractors of the game. Not at all.

"Clearly broken"
is not a serious attempt. Try "seem broken".

"Alas.. It's subjective.. lol... "
Dont think you know better than 10 000 years of human critique and development. It is silly my friend.
 
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IoriYagami76

Banned
#126
Jun 18, 2015
No, english isn't my native language. Your opinion about my knowledge is subjective, so i don't care.
You know, I like this "subjective" excuse. Works like a charm.
 
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Charcharo

Rookie
#127
Jun 18, 2015
IoriYagami76 said:
No, english isn't my native language. Your opinion about my knowledge is subjective, so i don't care.
You know, I like this "subjective" excuse. Works like a charm.
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I dont think you have gasped the concept yet...
 
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latios507

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#128
Jun 18, 2015
IoriYagami76 said:
No, english isn't my native language. Your opinion about my knowledge is subjective, so i don't care.
You know, I like this "subjective" excuse. Works like a charm.
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Ignorance is a bliss isn't it

I'd suggest you calm down and stop making a fool out of yourself. Stay on topic.

Your argument is centered around your own opinions only. You're forcing people to accept yours, and take everything as a serious and personal matter. Deal it with through PM. Besides, you still can't answer my argument earlier on page 10.
 
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IoriYagami76

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#129
Jun 18, 2015
In my opinion you are the ones going offtopic. I'm talking about the game you are talking about the definition of subjectivity.
I present points that demonstrates how the game is broken, you come with this hogwash about subjectivity and 10.000 years of human critique and development. Whatever.
 
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Charcharo

Rookie
#130
Jun 18, 2015
IoriYagami76 said:
In my opinion you are the ones going offtopic. I'm talking about the game you are talking about the definition of subjectivity.
I present points that demonstrates how the game is broken, you come with this hogwash about subjectivity and 10.000 years of human critique and development. Whatever.
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You are talking about your own problems with the game... and no in that great of a detail. We dont have the same problems as you...

You cant demonstrate something like that....

Subjectivity is not hogwash... how can someone even say that?
 
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Setari

Rookie
#131
Jun 18, 2015
Yeah I'm having trouble playing much of anything else now. I bought ARK and it's all well and good but getting raided isn't fun (unlike what my buddy says who plays with me) so I just keep coming back to playing Witcher 3 over... and over... and over again.
 
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IoriYagami76

Banned
#132
Jun 18, 2015
Charcharo said:
You are talking about your own problems with the game... and no in that great of a detail. We dont have the same problems as you...

You cant demonstrate something like that....

Subjectivity is not hogwash... how can someone even say that?
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My own problems ? You'd be surprised how many people are complaining about the gameplay, if you would stop and look. Lot of things going on. Youtube, facebook. I lost count how many people are criticizing the gameplay. I'm one among many. Nothing special. Some people just can't handle opposite comments, that's the fact.
 
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Charcharo

Rookie
#133
Jun 18, 2015
IoriYagami76 said:
My own problems ? You'd be surprised how many people are complaining about the gameplay, if you would stop and look. Lot of things going on. Youtube, facebook. I lost count how many people are criticizing the gameplay. I'm one among many. Nothing special. Some people just can't handle opposite comments, that's the fact.
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So... many people have problems?
Do you have my own problems with the book and game canon? Or with the Post-Game world? Maybe you do. Maybe you dont.

Just because you hear a loud minority, does not mean that you are a majority. That too is important to understand.
I obviously can handle them. Else I would just not respond or ignore you.

I have problems with the shitty AI in bethesda games. Why cant they copy the system GSC had made? Ohh wait... that will change the entire feeling of the game and some of its themes even...
 
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IoriYagami76

Banned
#134
Jun 18, 2015
Well, if you have problems with Bethesda games you should say that to them. No point saying that here.
 
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Charcharo

Rookie
#135
Jun 18, 2015
IoriYagami76 said:
Well, if you have problems with Bethesda games you should say that to them. No point saying that here.
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I dont. It is pointless. If Bethesda want to make a game that caters to me, it WONT cater to their own fans.
And they would be a good company of they treat their real fans first. And not people like me. GSC and CDPR more or less cater to me.
 
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IoriYagami76

Banned
#136
Jun 18, 2015
Ok. But I don't want to talk about Bethesda. Have nothing to do with the subject.... You just keep going with that. I don't know if I leave you speaking alone or whatnot.
That's sort of rude though. Oh well...
 
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Mr_Walker

Rookie
#137
Jun 18, 2015
Charcharo said:
Witcher 3... was refreshing. It actually worked!
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Well, mostly.

IoriYagami76 said:
It worked ? Interesting... The scraped combat system, alchemy system, rune crafting system, leveling system...
Apparently it looks very broken.
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There's a difference between broken and "I didn't like it".
 
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gogusar

Rookie
#138
Jun 18, 2015
The main problem of this game is that it tries to look like Mass Effect too much, while having its own original Witcher story that you would normally expect. And it's made for girls, I think. Look at who we go into the final battle: 5 girls, one elf (usually gay) and you, the Witcher. lol. Everybody have their pads? Yes? Ok, lets get ready to ruuuuumble...
The game is broken THAT way.

And like I said previously I certainly don't feel that this game did anything to other games, nor raised standard or any bullshit like that.
This is overhyped masochistic piece of mexican drama carring some witcher flavor. If you don't see this then you are most likely illiterate. Or a girl. Or not familiar with other witcher games...
 
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algroshaw

Rookie
#139
Jun 18, 2015
I guess I had too high hopes for the gaming community, yet again.

i thought they could appreciate a masterpiece, but QQ alchemy QQ bugs worst game evar :'(

I'll never understand how people can criticize a masterpiece like tw3 then go play garbage made by Bethesda with cardboard acting, no story, and all the quests bringing you to the same re-used cave eviornments.

Gamers will be the ruination of quality games, because all they desire is trash.
 
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IoriYagami76

Banned
#140
Jun 18, 2015
Mr_Walker said:
Well, mostly.



There's a difference between broken and "I didn't like it".
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Actually no. Because it is broken.

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gogusar said:
The main problem of this game is that it tries to look like Mass Effect too much, while having its own original Witcher story that you would normally expect. And it's made for girls, I think. Look at who we go into the final battle: 5 girls, one elf (usually gay) and you, the Witcher. lol. Everybody have their pads? Yes? Ok, lets get ready to ruuuuumble...
The game is broken THAT way.

And like I said previously I certainly don't feel that this game did anything to other games, nor raised standard or any bullshit like that.
This is overhyped masochistic piece of mexican drama carring some witcher flavor. If you don't see this then you are most likely illiterate. Or a girl. Or not familiar with other witcher games...
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Exactly. It's a mexican level soap novel. I know them alright. They are horrible. I had the exact same feeling ! Or those brazilian soap novels. LOL.. Man they suck. Those novels are the worse you can find on drama. This game disrespects Mr. Andrzej Sapkowski original art.
 
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