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Unlimited Geralt Yrden needs rework

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MaxisZ

Forum regular
#1
Oct 13, 2019
Earlier RED rewok unlimited action cards. Now Geralt Yrden can get crazy value (92 points on the screen).
Yrden is like old Hail Merigold ! While swarm decks or buff decks cannot win in 2 rounds. They need time to disperse. So Yrden just squeezes out similar archetypes from Gwent ! Yrden value should be limited. Maybe for 2 targets or something like that.
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FG15-ISH7EG

Senior user
#2
Oct 13, 2019
The play shows some serious overcommitment to swarm and boosts, so of course Yrden will get crazy value against it. That is the whole point of the card.
 
Draconifors

Draconifors

Moderator
#3
Oct 13, 2019
Yrden is fine the way it is. It can get huge value, or it can get next to no value; it's not OP just because it counters a specific deck type.

Cards that affect an entire row (or even an unlimited number of units) have always existed -- and it's not like Yrden is the only such card in the current version.
 
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Moors-

Moors-

Forum regular
#4
Oct 13, 2019
Change it to 5 power 10 provisions, Reset 3 adjacent units.
 
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SuperiorSaturn

SuperiorSaturn

Fresh user
#5
Oct 13, 2019
Moors- said:
Change it to 5 power 10 provisions, Reset 3 adjacent units.
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This would be good before defenders. As it is the only way to play around Yrden is to not row stack which keeps defenders from being completely broken with some archetypes as opposed to being mildly broken auto include right now.
 
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StrykerxS77x

Forum veteran
#6
Oct 13, 2019
Yrden is a very needed counter in this game. It is fine. Do not touch it.
 
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MaxisZ

Forum regular
#7
Oct 13, 2019
Once again Yrden makes some archetypes unplayable.
When matchmaking is by your side Yrden himself flip the game. If not - Yrden is a brick.
It's a bad card design.
 
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Nathan277

Nathan277

Forum regular
#8
Oct 13, 2019
It's usually the kind of card you use if you play next to no control. It's like old Greatswords using Igni, they don't really care what you do throughout the game on your end of the board and they let you get most of your strategy off but they do have one big control card at the end waiting for you. I don't mind that. Only problem is of course that it's harder to spread your units out effectively now. I still prefer a big Yrden to the kinds of deck that kill your stuff every other turn.
There being a punish for Monster Greed isn't a bad thing whatsoever since most control cards inherently 'brick' against it. Just seems you think all your crazy combos (Yghern + Ozzrel) are fine but the opponent should not have an answer tbh.
 
SuperiorSaturn

SuperiorSaturn

Fresh user
#9
Oct 13, 2019
MaxisZ said:
Once again Yrden makes some archetypes unplayable.
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I seriously doubt this is the case. Unless you're row stacking in which case you're playing way too greedy and deserve to lose to the opponent's high risk, high reward tech (which you could have also bled in other rounds or they simply could have not drawn).
 
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StrykerxS77x

Forum veteran
#10
Oct 13, 2019
MaxisZ said:
Once again Yrden makes some archetypes unplayable.
When matchmaking is by your side Yrden himself flip the game. If not - Yrden is a brick.
It's a bad card design.
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If the risk vs reward doesn't sound good to you then don't use Yrden, it's just an option. I don't know why it's bad card design just because it's high risk.

In a game with this much boosts going on Yrden is a needed counter. I haven't seen a good reason to change it.
 
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Iuliandrei

Senior user
#11
Oct 14, 2019
This only proves why yrden needs to be in the game in its current form.
 
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MaxisZ

Forum regular
#12
Oct 14, 2019
Not sure if Gwent contains a lot of tier 1 boosts that needed Yrden counter.
Pure boost archetypes (like insectoids) actually fan decks regardless of Yrden.
 
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BoYoDes

BoYoDes

Rookie
#13
Oct 14, 2019
I was waiting for this one, but still - Jeezuz...
 
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Gamer_Matt

Forum regular
#14
Oct 14, 2019
HANDS OFF OUR FOCKEN YRDEN.
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Anima_13

Rookie
#15
Oct 14, 2019
If you design a deck that entirely relies on a single mechanism, it is pretty obvious that facing a deck that carries a conter to that mechanism will lose.
There are insane buffing mechanisms in this game where within a few turns power can be generated on field that no sane damage deck would ever solve. So either all the buffing spam gets nerfed (and thats like most cards out there? :D), or this card remains as it is.

If you feel the amount of debuffing in recent decks is too much, you have to adapt. There is no way around that (unless you lack the options because you lack cards ; I have that issue too, you just take the hit then). You could focus a bit more on units with higher base value and maybe more damage so the debuff wont hit you as hard that you will lose.

PS: I just saw the swarm -> Yennefer of Vengerberg-> Geralt: Yrden combo; its probably old and known but I found it still pretty esp with a certain new unit from Iron Judgment
 
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