SHALLAHJUSTICE;n10250512 said:Leave it as it is, just stop it from targeting golds.
Do it, and you are destroying the card.
the best way to balance it is to cap the number of power it can swap to a reasonable degree, thats it.
SHALLAHJUSTICE;n10250512 said:Leave it as it is, just stop it from targeting golds.
That's all well and good but i think the discontent is mainly stemming from the fact it can target golds, which will more often or not ruin a ranked match.
Or at the very least but the targeted player at a severe and unfair disadvantage.
Leave it as it is, just stop it from targeting golds.
If it hits a high level gold, that almost a scorch plus it steals the power. That's a better ability then most golds.
Sheva007;n10250602 said:Do it, and you are destroying the card.
the best way to balance it is to cap the number of power it can swap to a reasonable degree, thats it.
4RM3D;n10250302 said:You cannot simply add those numbers together without looking at the circumstances. I have explained in my post why your math is wrong.
ser2440;n10250752 said:The most common golds ( Ge'els, Schiru, Iorverth: Meditation, Ciri: Nova, Ithlinne, Zoltan, Vilgefortz, Menno, Woodland Spirit, Caranthir, Coral, Lugos, Leo Bonhart) all have a strength which makes the Venendal from an ok card to rubbish.
SHALLAHJUSTICE;n10250842 said:I think your being a tad bit dramatic saying that it will "destroy" the card.
For arguments sake lets say it does "destroy" the card, if destroying it allows the developers to keep things fair in competitive play, so be it. Hardly the biggest sacrifce anyones made for the greater good.
I honestly don't think it will be "destroyed" anyway their are loads of clever little strategies for using VE i'm sure, maybe people haven't even experimented with the card fully yet. (plus it still targets silvers)
It's a cool card even without targeting golds and if could ruin certain bronzes like swordmasters etc.
SHALLAHJUSTICE;n10250842 said:I think your being a tad bit dramatic saying that it will "destroy" the card.
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SHALLAHJUSTICE;n10250512 said:Leave it as it is, just stop it from targeting golds.
ZenaRose;n10250932 said:On your "logic", if alzur thunder dont kill its target, its always 0 point play, because you can play around it with decoy or mushrooms
Using Venendal on Vilgefortz, Bonhart, Menno, etc is 15+ points swing. That's hardly rubbish.
Using them on Olaf, Geralt or Tibor provides 30+ points swing. For a bronze card! Only scorch, Shirru and GIgni can do more.
StrykerxS77x;n10248252 said:I'm assuming you are talking about ranked so what MMR?
Its a Silver, and not only is it risky, but it caps the 'switch effect' at 10 points maximum. And Venendal Elite, which is a bronze, and not so risky on a reveal deck, and yet it can be always more effective than Twisted Mirror, as it doesnt have any point cap and can target ALL units!
KasumiGoto;n10253762 said:Rank 16 right now, but most of the people are there at the moment. Met a lot of people with good borders/avatars playing NG.
ser2440;n10254902 said:Except Bekker's Twisted Mirror affects the battlefield. Its point swing happens immediately and there is nothing you can do about that. As for the Venendal, it requires setup in the form of revealing cards, specifically enemy, specifically enemy units, and especially high power enemy units and then saps their power sure but you can still make up for that by swapping away said unit, cutting down the Venendal's power by 50% essentially.