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Very low FPS on a fairly nice system

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deadreckoning84

Senior user
#1
Mar 9, 2008
Very low FPS on a fairly nice system

Specs:Vista 32 bit (yea I know)3 gigs ram DDR28800 GTX 768 mbAMD 9600 Phenom 2.3ghz Quad CoreI am getting roughly 20 fps, AA turned off, lightening medium, viewing medium. I just don't understand it.
 
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slicer77

Senior user
#2
Mar 9, 2008
Geez. That system is crazy, man. I dont see why you cant have the settings on high, unless. This is a shot in the dark, but i know to unlock a dual core's true power, you need to download an update you don't get automatically. Maybe its the same with a quad core system?
 
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brinkles

Senior user
#3
Mar 9, 2008
I'm having a similar problem.XP 32-bit (yea, i know)Geforce 8800GT superclocked3GB ram2.4GHz dual coreeverything on high, 2x AAi'm averaging 20fps.I'm playing Crysis with a mixture of High and Very High settings and getting great framerates.Though, I did notice that the game is making absolutely no use of my dual core cpu, and I have the update that the above poster mentioned. ;\
 
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Licaon_Kter

Forum veteran
#4
Mar 9, 2008
what resolution? maybe playing the game at 1680x1050 with 2xAA ain't such a great ideaabout dual/quad-core support i'm rather upset myselfyou could try to start the game, press CTRL-Shift-ESC for the taskmanager to appear, right-click on witcher.exe, Set Affinity, see that all the CPUs are checked, and press OK (always press ok), then get back in gameas far as i can see, just starting the game will get the first core used up 80-90% and the second one at 10-20% (as seen in the picture attached)doing the Affinity trick mentioned above, will get the first core at 60% and the second at 40%those percentages are relative to one core each, so both cores should yield 200% when added, but the witcher will use only about 100% ( 90%+10% or 60%+40%)... which is rather wronglooking at other games, CoD4/UT3/Vampire Bloodlines, one will see 100% of the first core and 60% or more of the second core.... thats 160% and it really shows
 
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Captmorgan72

Senior user
#5
Mar 9, 2008
Yeah, this game is great and I loved it but it is very poorly optimized. Comps with the massive firepower like your's should be able to play this with everything maxed to the hilt with at least 30 fps. Crysis is an example of a game that is optimized very well, extremely well in fact. I was able to play it all the way to the end at low settings (which still looked very good) with decent fps. Athlon 3400+Geforce 7950 512MBSB X-Fi2 gigs RamXP Home Edition
 
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brinkles

Senior user
#6
Mar 9, 2008
I'm playing on 1280x1024 res ;\I have an LCD display on my keyboard showing my CPU usage, and while I'm playing, it shows 100% on my first core and 5% (at most, usually 0%) on my second core. ugh >
 
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Licaon_Kter

Forum veteran
#7
Mar 9, 2008
@Brinkles: do the Affinity trick and see how things work out
 
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eartman

Senior user
#8
Mar 9, 2008
DeadReckoning84 said:
Specs:Vista 32 bit (yea I know)3 gigs ram DDR28800 GTX 768 mbAMD 9600 Phenom 2.3ghz Quad CoreI am getting roughly 20 fps, AA turned off, lightening medium, viewing medium. I just don't understand it.
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Hi DeadReckoning84,Are you turning Antialiasing off though NVidia's Control Panel - Manage 3D Settings?If not, open NVidia's control panel and -1. Turn off Anisotropic filtering2. Turn off Antialiasing - Gamma correction3. Set Antialiasing - Mode to Override any application settingsAlso4. Turn on Threaded optimization5. Turn on Triple buffering6. Set Vertical sync to Force OnI also have Texture filtering - Trilinear optimization turned onWith these settings I'm able to run The Witcher at 1920x1200 with all of The Witcher's video setting maxed.The game looks gorgeous and unless I'm in the Trade Quarter during the day, I get high frame rates.I have a 8800 GTX too.Let me know if these setting help.
 
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brinkles

Senior user
#9
Mar 10, 2008
@Licaon_Kter: I did, both cores were already checked.I've been using the 169.04 nVidia drivers because they work the best with Crysis, so i tried updating to the 169.21 drivers and my FPS actually dropped, so I reverted back to the 169.04 version -.-
 
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nrk11

Senior user
#10
Mar 10, 2008
Not that this helps your problem any, but I have a relatively weak system and get better frames than you. So it is definately something wrong.Opteron 170 2.0ghzATI 3650 512mb2gigs memoryVista 64At 1360x768 I average 25frames with all settings on high. No aa and 8x AFI do play on medium settings though because there are slowdowns.
 
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eartman

Senior user
#11
Mar 10, 2008
DeadReckoning84 said:
DeadReckoning84 said:
DeadReckoning84 said:
Specs:Vista 32 bit (yea I know)3 gigs ram DDR28800 GTX 768 mbAMD 9600 Phenom 2.3ghz Quad CoreI am getting roughly 20 fps, AA turned off, lightening medium, viewing medium. I just don't understand it.
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Hi DeadReckoning84,Are you turning Antialiasing off though NVidia's Control Panel - Manage 3D Settings?............The game looks gorgeous and unless I'm in the Trade Quarter during the day, I get high frame rates.I have a 8800 GTX too.Let me know if these setting help.
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Tried that, didn't work out that well. Same fps. Maybe helped a tad.Updating to Vista 64 might be my only option.
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I've run The Witcher on both 32 and 64-bit versions of Vista. Although I'm very pleased with Vista x64, I haven't noticed any improvement in fps while playing The Witcher.Have you experienced issues with slow frame rates with other games? I'm curious if there could be some application or service that's running in the background that might be a resource hog? Could your computer be slowed down by virus protection software or something like that?
 
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Grapefruit.38

Senior user
#12
Mar 10, 2008
You guys realize that most of you who are experiencing performance issues all have amd processors. I hate a X2 3000, a 8800gts 320mb on xp with 2 Gb of ram and it runs very poorly. I am now certain this game has problems with amd cpus.
 
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Licaon_Kter

Forum veteran
#13
Mar 10, 2008
gRapefruit said:
You guys realize that most of you who are experiencing performance issues all have amd processors. I hate a X2 3000, a 8800gts 320mb on xp with 2 Gb of ram and it runs very poorly. I am now certain this game has problems with amd cpus.
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not true... search around and you'll find Intel users having problems as well
gRapefruit said:
@Licaon_Kter: I did, both cores were already checked.
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re-read my previous post:
gRapefruit said:
as far as i can see, just starting the game will get the first core used up 80-90% and the second one at 10-20% (as seen in the picture attached)doing the Affinity trick mentioned above, will get the first core at 60% and the second at 40%
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looking at the Affinity setting in TaskManager and pressing OK will *change* the way the game behaves
 
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Grapefruit.38

Senior user
#14
Mar 10, 2008
LicaonKter said:
LicaonKter said:
You guys realize that most of you who are experiencing performance issues all have amd processors. I hate a X2 3000, a 8800gts 320mb on xp with 2 Gb of ram and it runs very poorly. I am now certain this game has problems with amd cpus.
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not true... search around and you'll find Intel users having problems as well
LicaonKter said:
@Licaon_Kter: I did, both cores were already checked.
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re-read my previous post:
LicaonKter said:
as far as i can see, just starting the game will get the first core used up 80-90% and the second one at 10-20% (as seen in the picture attached)doing the Affinity trick mentioned above, will get the first core at 60% and the second at 40%
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looking at the Affinity setting in TaskManager and pressing OK will *change* the way the game behaves
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Sure, but the problems might be caused by something else. Just look in this thread; mostly amd users and they are having problems. I have yet to see someone with a multicore amd processor run the game flawlessly (meaning 45fps + at all times with max settings)
 
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onkl.627

Senior user
#15
Mar 11, 2008
They also have nVidia cards, so maybe there's the problem.
 
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onkl.627

Senior user
#16
Mar 12, 2008
Have you tried disabling EAX or sounds at all? Try also lowering hardware accleration for your soundcard.
 
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Eri94_user70

Forum veteran
#17
Mar 12, 2008
Here is a very good explination on video card for the lame -> http://www.thewitcher.com/forum/index.php?topic=6990.0Please read the Patch notes "Performance Tips" (section 4) - http://www.thewitcher.com/registration/en/www/patch_notes.htmlIt dont matter if your processor has 30 cores and runs at 300ghz... your graphics card still has to be compatable with the games DX routeens at the resolution your playin it ;)
onkl said:
They also have nVidia cards, so maybe there's the problem.
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I've said this for months now... when it comes to raw DirectX game graphics, nVidia have no Idea. Because they are mainly OpenGL based cards.I have also pointed out that there are more people with nVidia card issues here than ATI cards. and the ones who do have ATI cards the fix was quick and simple, where as nVidia, we (the techies) had to go all around the houses to find a fix, that usually ended up as shoddy drivers... Do a site search if you dont believe me.
 
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onkl.627

Senior user
#18
Mar 12, 2008
LordLethris said:
Here is a very good explination on video card for the lame -> http://www.thewitcher.com/forum/index.php?topic=6990.0Please read the Patch notes "Performance Tips" (section 4) - http://www.thewitcher.com/registration/en/www/patch_notes.htmlIt dont matter if your processor has 30 cores and runs at 300ghz... your graphics card still has to be compatable with the games DX routeens at the resolution your playin it ;)
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He's using a highend card, so whats your point? This system should run the game perfectly smooth. Even setting everything to low didn't solve his problem.I guess the soundcard is the problem. Could you tell us what it's exactly? "Digital Output Device (SPDIF) (High Definition Audio Device)" that sounds like an onboard chip.
 
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Eri94_user70

Forum veteran
#19
Mar 12, 2008
yes.. sorry, I didnt notice before.He is using an 8800 with Vista. thats the issue. Shoddy drivers. again look at nvidia's driver notes ;)
 
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