The biggest are bad proactivity, almost no point-slam and very poor performance against swarm or anything that doesn't give targets fast enough because of the control nature. If it didn't have any weaknesses, the faction's winrate would be at least 10% higher than it actually is at the moment, ranging from 50-52%.
Those cards are similar but not the same. Tryggvi has the veteran mechanic and can be used on any card regardless of a status. Tryggvi can remove anything after an opponent has passed. SK and NG are also different factions alltogether, different power levels. It wouldnt be the same thing.
Nearly every new card this expansion has veil, that's why. You actually get punished for using the third evolution of evolve cards. How does this make any sense at all design-wise?
Most of the evolving cards spawn additional units which give roughly 6 points (save for Viraxas, but you can use his order immediately, therefore get the value without any risk). If Vincent kills the card with veil that's a perfectly fine trade if you ask me. Not even a massive counter actually.
They can do the same on the 2nd evolution. 3rd adds engine function and veil, perfect food for Vincent.
I'd rather risk Vincent over locks or poison, veil is pretty strong against those two. In gwent nothing is 100% guarantee. If your opponent has Vincent then he will find a target, question is what. Used on a veiled a card mean that he cant target your defender or something similar. Most players don't float orders when playing their evolving card anyway. You'll get good value from these new evolving cards.
It makes the whole existence of veil a joke, you want to apply veil on important units to protect them, but they'll just get destroyed by Vincent, Why would I ever bother applying Veil on a high power card when this card exists? Is there any way to Counter Vincent? You can Counter Tryggvi by simply holding a Purify in your hand, and Purify it, which everyone is doing right now, and made me to simply Cut Tryggvi from deck which made it better, every card can be Countered in one way or another, but how do you counter Vincent? Veil? Defender? Purify your own Veil, Shield, Defender, Vitality? Should I apply Veil or not at the end of the day?
Highest cards are a bunch of sixes and one bronze seven. You really want to tell us THIS is insane value for 11 provisions? In return they can't get locked anymore which killed this mechanic even more AND you can't poison them. The only other counter is damage which is also pretty hard to pull off, especially against the Apiarian Phantom.
Your opponent can't have more than one Vincent. It's the same question one could ask about tall removal if you only wanted to play 9+ power cards. Counters exists, when you play against NG, you may want to try to bleed or bait out the Vincent, you should definitely expect your opponent to have him especially if he plays masquerade ball or aristocrats beyond the Moorlehem hunter. This is one of the few examples of how gwent can be a strategic cardgame. Veil was never intended to be an alternative to immunity or give 100% guaranteed protection. One could ask; why are you not complaining about korathi heatwave?
You can do the exact same with Turggvi by that logic. I'm extremely curious how you supposedly force the opponent to use Vincent. Love how you're making my argument out to be against interaction in general by the way. Real classy.Turggvi is a top tier broken card.
Same way you counter any powerful control card: Heatwave, Yennefer, Baron, etc. Know it's out there. Play accordingly. Bleed it out or bait it out. Or just hope they didn't draw it. That's what the game's about. If you don't like your cards being messed with, I recommend Solitaire.
It all boils down to the same old "wah wah NG stole my value" whinology. VIncent is op. Yen is op. Damien is op. Skellen is op. Bribery is op. Is there any gold NG card that someone didn't say was op? Fact is veil screwed NG a lot. Vincent power-up isn't even close to making up for it. If anything from NG is op it's the new spy cards that produce a bit too much value for the amount of control NG has.
Let's sort this out now, do you think Vincent makes Nilfgaard broken or are you just annoyed by him?
If Vincent kills my Dunca, I will be happy since Dunca got a honorable death. But when she gets killed by a 4P Stunning blow, that is when I am sad. Most of the Veil units are 4 or 5P bronzes (or the Evolving card) and using Viincent on them is kind of fine IMHO. But nonetheless if he woks only on negative statuses like (lock, bleeding, poison, doomed) it would be fair, but being unfair is NG's identity so..
