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koszula

Senior user
#961
Jan 4, 2008
I will try that. :) ATM i'm in work :) Hehe :) But... heh i didn't buy quite good pc to play games in low details :) I might as well go back to good old EOB or MM to play good RPG :) It would be good to please your eyes also :p
 
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Eri94_user70

Forum veteran
#962
Jan 4, 2008
koszula said:
I will try that. :) ATM i'm in work :) Hehe :) But... heh i didn't buy quite good pc to play games in low details :) I might as well go back to good old EOB or MM to play good RPG :) It would be good to please your eyes also :p
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well, code wize this is a pritty complicated and demanding game, not just on graphics.I agree that sometime things are nice to look at, but Trust me, in this game, turning of DoF you wont notice much of a difference, and turning grass to medium or even low you definatly wont notice any difference, as you'll be to busy running around and attacking things. BUT you will definatly notice a performance boost.
 
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koszula

Senior user
#963
Jan 4, 2008
Well i don't have any problems with performance atm anyway :) I don't need to improve anything there :)
 
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Eri94_user70

Forum veteran
#964
Jan 4, 2008
koszula said:
Well i don't have any problems with performance atm anyway :) I don't need to improve anything there :)
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...I meen over all performance, IE including sability.
 
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Licaon_Kter

Forum veteran
#965
Jan 4, 2008
LordLethris said:
LordLethris said:
maybe you should backup this statement with some links... :)
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I dont have to.
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yes you do ;)
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look at any nVidia cards specs. "Hardware OpenGL overlay planes"... this meens that anything passed through the card get converted too OR outputed on OpenGL by driver EMU.
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dude you're going too far
LordLethris said:
"OpenGL 2.1 and DirectX 10 support " Note the word "support" ;) If you read between the lines, what you have is a highly excelirated Opengl card with drivers that support DX through emulation. My guess is they got a lawer to write the spec sheet, 'cos its really cleverly worded ;).ATI are, and always have been, hardware DirectX.
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actually ATI always had a worse OpenGL support, and both nVidia and ATI have hardware support, since they would not survive otherwise, or they've made some miracles just by having software drivers that EMU the stuff others do in hardware...and at the same speeds :panyway look ATI Radeon™ HD 3800 Series - GPU Specifications it says the same things... so it must be "EMU" for ATI too, right? "OpenGL 2.0 and DirectX 10.1 support " Note the word "support" ;) you don't read between the lines for ATI?
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And its a well known fact the Microsoft "unoffitially" nerfed OpenGl so having an ATI card for Vista makes perfict sence to me.
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the OpenGL nerfing in the Microsoft default drivers installed by Vista is just a marketing scheme... proper drivers for both ATi and nVidia have proper support for OpenGL, ATi and nVidia aren't that stupid not to support big players like CAD/CAM/simulation guys that buy video cards for that OpenGL supportdude, try to read more and post less, you're wasting everybody's time by posting half-truths and unfounded theories.
 
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lordeventine

Senior user
#966
Jan 4, 2008
This was posted before but I decided to post this for ease of access. I had this problem and couldn't even start the game. Immediately after attempting to launch the game it would crash and give me the "The Witcher encountered a problem and needs to close" error. Now, I assume this problem stems from using a widescreen monitor. Those of us that use these obviously run desktop at a high resolution. As it turns out, this was causing my problem. The Witcher doesn't like starting at a high resolution for some reason. Someone (sorry, can't remember your name to cite you) posted about creating a shortcut which would start the game itself at a lower resolution. Well, each time I tried that Vista told me it could not find the path. The solution turned out to be simple. Just turn your desktop resolution lower (1024 x 768 worked for me) and the game should launch just fine. This may only be a problem to a small amount of Witcher players, but hope it helps!
 
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Eri94_user70

Forum veteran
#967
Jan 4, 2008
Maybe the troll will go away and stop twisting what I say to make out I meen somthing else...
LordLethris said:
LordLethris said:
maybe you should backup this statement with some links... :)
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I dont have to.
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for example should read...
LordLethris said:
LordLethris said:
maybe you should backup this statement with some links... :)
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I dont have to. look at any nVidia cards specs.
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Yes your right ATI has had worse OpenGL support... but were talking about Vista, a DirectX driven OS, and a DirectX driven game.
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anyway look ATI Radeon™ HD 3800 Series - GPU Specifications it says the same things... so it must be "EMU" for ATI too, right? "OpenGL 2.0 and DirectX 10.1 support " Note the word "support" ;) you don't read between the lines for ATI?
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Again, yes, support for 10.1 thats "ten point one". its still hardware DX10... muppet...Oh and CAD programs are going the DirectX route too.dude, try to read properly and post less, you're wasting my support time by posting twisted meenings and un-educated theoriesthanks..Lord_LethrisSite Technologist
 
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Licaon_Kter

Forum veteran
#968
Jan 4, 2008
LordLethris said:
Maybe the troll will go away and stop twisting what I say to make out I meen somthing else...
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ok dude it's like you said, whatever you said... your the self proclaimed technologist...i'm nothing... hope that everyone here having a problem, Vista, ATi, nVidia,ect. talks to yougood luck.
 
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mobidoy

Forum veteran
#969
Jan 4, 2008
LicaonKter said:
LicaonKter said:
Maybe the troll will go away and stop twisting what I say to make out I meen somthing else...
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ok dude it's like you said, whatever you said... your the self proclaimed technologist...i'm nothing... hope that everyone here having a problem, Vista, ATi, nVidia,ect. talks to yougood luck.
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By looking at his title, it seem that someone else did proclaim him technologist ? And for little as i know... He his right !! but hey, if you can prove him wrong, go ahead, so far, he replied with the correct info about what you did post and if you really look carefully, you can easily back his statement !
 
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Eri94_user70

Forum veteran
#970
Jan 4, 2008
hay. I'm always open to a frendly descussion about other Vista issues regarding ATI and nVidia cards. just not here. :DSorry about the troll remark, you got me heckles up for a sec... I hate people twisting my words, my ex-wife use to do that.Mobidoy, could you possably split this topic so it stays on track. and we all stay friends.
 
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mobidoy

Forum veteran
#971
Jan 4, 2008
LordLethris said:
hay. I'm always open to a frendly descussion about other Vista issues regarding ATI and nVidia cards. just not here. :DSorry about the troll remark, you got me heckles up for a sec... I hate people twisting my words, my ex-wife use to do that.Mobidoy, could you possably split this topic so it stays on track. and we all stay friends.
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We all stay friends ?? OMG What are those ? Mommy always told me to stay away from those....Split topics ? Oki... Will try to dig out the moderator manual and see how this is possible j/k.More seriously, with the lenght of this topic, i am more in favor of starting a new one with all that should be tried under vista. So you guys can keep on polluting this one lol !
 
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Eri94_user70

Forum veteran
#972
Jan 4, 2008
lol. might be an idea.
 
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khalan

Senior user
#973
Jan 4, 2008
I'm running an 8800 GTS on Vista 32bit, and I haven't had a single crash, both before and after patching. Same for many others probably. So that points to the problem being a combination of things conflicting with each other rather than just The Witcher, or just Nvidia etc causing the problem.
 
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Eri94_user70

Forum veteran
#974
Jan 4, 2008
Khalan said:
I'm running an 8800 GTS on Vista 32bit, and I haven't had a single crash, both before and after patching. Same for many others probably. So that points to the problem being a combination of things conflicting with each other rather than just The Witcher, or just Nvidia etc causing the problem.
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...exactly the point. its difficalt to pin point what the cause is...as so many poeple (including those with nVidia 8 series cards) are running it fine....if its not an nVidia issue (although there is a tiny tiny chance its looking this way) I think it could be a shoddy install of Vista and/or some crappy 3rd party opensource program that you all have in common... FF maybe?and on a different note, I wish to share this with everyone.. is THIS OTT or what!!!
 
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mobidoy

Forum veteran
#975
Jan 4, 2008
Time to set this one free, i have put up the new stickie of things to try for Vista, if you have something to add, please do so. I will edit the first post to add those !
 
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username_2071460

Senior user
#976
Jan 4, 2008
The Witcher - running v1.2 - no crashes - playing for hours and hours and no problem (keep the DVD in drive, if you've got one).System:Windows Vista Ultimate 64bit with prereleased Service Pack 1 (Release Candidate 1) - all official patches/updates installed - running Windows Defender and Windows Firewall - Avast! Anti-Virus 64bit version - i have and like to have the UAC always turned on (like mentioned more often here in the forum, it would help to turn it off), was never a problem with any game to right now - it always only warns and asks me, if i want to go on or not, if something is out of the order, so an extra safety measure working fine for me ...CPU Intel Quadcore Q6600 - NOT overclockedGraphics card 8800 GTS 320MB - driver v169.21 for Vista 64bit4 GB RAM 800 MhzCreative Labs Audigy 4 SoundcardPowersupply 600 Watt 19 inch LCD Syncmaster 931BF - running Vista and Game (full mode, not windowed) with 1280x1024 resolutionSo i can say, from my system and point of view - The Witcher is running perfect on Vista , Intel CPU and a 8800 graphics card ...Sometimes it helps to right-click on the start EXE file and choose 'run as administrator' ... but not needed with The Witcher
 
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cormac

Senior user
#977
Jan 4, 2008
Here's my story...Downloaded and installed all of the recommendations posted here in this thread. The one that did the trick more than the rest, was simply turning down my resolution. I have a 22" flat panel LCD monitor, and when I run this game 1600 x 1050 (the monitor's native resolution) I still get the crashing every 20 minutes like I was BEFORE installing and applying all of these other fixes. The fixes listed in this thread did help, and increased the ammount of time I could play the game, but not as much as when I lowered my resolution from 1600 x 1050 down to 1280 x (don't remember the other number now since I just switched to a wide screen flat panel). Since doing that, I can run the game in high detail and I need a break from playing and have to manually exit the game (I know, tough to quit this game when not forced to Lol) before the game will crash. In other words, since lowering my res, I can play this at will for as long as I like.System specs...32 Bit Vista Home Premium, AMD X2 5600, NVidia 7950GT with latest drivers4gb Corsair 800mhz, 350gb Seagate, Sound Max onboard ASUS sound card in 5.1 surround mode, I don't run this game in windowed mode either.This is NOT an NVidia 8000 series issue in my opinion, especially since I had the exact same problem as everyone else with a 7000 series card Lol. As someone somewhere else mentioned here, "If you increase swap file size, you just extend the time it takes to fill the file and crash anyway". This person was exactly right Lol. As I applied each idea posted in this thread one thing at a time, I noticed my time between crashes got to be longer and longer. But, the crashes kept right on coming. Until I dropped my resolution :) Hope this works as well for someone else as it did for me. GL!And hey, if anyone is paying attention, great game you have here. Best I've seen in quite a while!
 
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eboskie1

Senior user
#978
Jan 5, 2008
ten10 said:
The Witcher - running v1.2 - no crashes - playing for hours and hours and no problem (keep the DVD in drive, if you've got one).System:Windows Vista Ultimate 64bit with prereleased Service Pack 1 (Release Candidate 1) - all official patches/updates installed - running Windows Defender and Windows Firewall - Avast! Anti-Virus 64bit version - i have and like to have the UAC always turned on (like mentioned more often here in the forum, it would help to turn it off), was never a problem with any game to right now - it always only warns and asks me, if i want to go on or not, if something is out of the order, so an extra safety measure working fine for me ...CPU Intel Quadcore Q6600 - NOT overclockedGraphics card 8800 GTS 320MB - driver v169.21 for Vista 64bit4 GB RAM 800 MhzCreative Labs Audigy 4 SoundcardPowersupply 600 Watt 19 inch LCD Syncmaster 931BF - running Vista and Game (full mode, not windowed) with 1280x1024 resolutionSo i can say, from my system and point of view - The Witcher is running perfect on Vista , Intel CPU and a 8800 graphics card ...Sometimes it helps to right-click on the start EXE file and choose 'run as administrator' ... but not needed with The Witcher
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Well most of the poeple having the problem are not using x64. Most of the users are using only 2 gigs of ram with an 8800 so people want to play at 1680x1050 everything maxed out like you should be able too. Yah switch OS's and buy more ram and you could probably play the game with very few interuptions. These bs work arounds should not have to be done in the first place. My point is there is a flaw in witcher that hasnt been addressed yet. I say its with witcher because both ati and nvidia users are effected ( ati less vocal but then again there are less high end ati cards in power users system ak people trying to play this game) along with the fact every game I have played using vista before this has worked to my satisfaction even though they have better graphics and are more intense on the system. Nope witcher is flawed and needs to be fixed. You dont make a game then expect people to do work arounds to get it to work. The game should have been tailored to work with vista NOT the other way around!!
 
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aogden

Senior user
#979
Jan 5, 2008
Hello,I have done three installs of the digital version of this game, patched to 1.2 and tried all of the recommendations in the various vista threads.I do not think my un-installs are getting rid of everything because my settings remain the same after I re-install. I was originally getting random crashes, but now I am crashing at the same exact point in the prologue everytime, right at the top of the stairs after the cutscene.any help would be appreciated.
 
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mobidoy

Forum veteran
#980
Jan 5, 2008
Have you tried those http://www.thewitcher.com/forum/index.php?topic=8583.0
 
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