Wants from the "Witcher 4: More Silver for Monsters (and CD_Projekt Red)"

[Willowhugger]

I forgot about those. Interesting workaround. That said CDPR would either have to cheat with Ciri's renouncement of magic and have Geralt teach her Signs, or cheat by giving her Elder Blood equivalents. Honestly the fact that no one can be sure of what the future for the Witcher holds is one of the most exciting things. CDPR is in a position where they can go ANYWHERE now that Geralt's story is over.

Well, her gameplay doesn't have to be IDENTICAL to Geralt's own even if they need something AS COOL as the signs to do it.

Instead of Signs, I think she should have 4-5 variants on her Space/Time Powers.

"Slow Time"
"Combat Teleport"
"Teleport away from enemy when struck"
"Super-Speed Attack"

It'd work pretty well, I think while making combat more dynamic.

But yes, we saw Ciri using the Werewolf Oil so they'd be able to keep those elements in the game if fans felt they were too iconic to lose.

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Well... Actually the White Frost ONLY threatens Geralt's world in the books. The world of the Aen Elle is pretty safe as far as we know (in book lore).

As much as I'd love to play as Ciri, I mean I really would, I kinda have to agree with the other people who bring up how powerful she is at this point. Obviously they could go with her losing some of her powers... but I dunno, seems like a bit of a stretch. If CD Projekt could write themselves out of that I'd be happy to play as Ciri, otherwise I'm starting to think that it might be best for a new protagonist.

Yeah, the White Frost isn't....I'm trying to look for an equivalent....

The White Frost isn't Ice Cthulhu.

Ice Cthulhu who is going to DESTROY THE MULTIVERSE.

The White Frost is just an Ice Age. A regular, normal Ice Age, probably triggered by a volcano in the past.

And that is enough to destroy the North.

As for Ciri, we've seen Geralt start back at Level 1 every time he begins a new game. I see no reason Ciri can't. Maybe she's fallen out of practice with her powers or she damaged them fighting Ice Cthulhu.

 

[Goodmongo]

Maybe ask this question around 2020 or so because TW4 won't even be a side thought for years to come. the game is just 1 month old today and already there is a TW4 thread.

 

[Willowhugger]

Maybe ask this question around 2020 or so because TW4 won't even be a side thought for years to come. the game is just 1 month old today and already there is a TW4 thread.

That's pessimistic thinking, I think.

Especially if they choose to do a quicker smaller spin-off. The expansions are going to keep us occupied to 2016 but nothing keeps CD_Projekt Red from doing a game with the same engine and resources for some quick $$$ and much fan gratitude.

The "Witcher: New Vegas" or "Witcher: Geralt out of Hell" if you will.

 

[zaskar70]

Well by the time a Witcher 4 comes around to being a potential thing it will probably be a VR game.

With the Oculus Rift, Valves HTC Vive, and Sony's Project Morpheus all right around the corner and a possible new Witcher game being most likely at least 7 to 10 years away computer hardware and VR hardware will have a long time to develop.

That being said Geralt and friends not being around wont be that much of a problem since only the old school gamers will remember them and to most people the Witcher will be brand new. This will free up CDPR to do whatever they want in the Witcher universe as far as a game is concerned without worrying about too much.

I imagine if Cyberpunk takes off and CDPR decides a 10 years from now after 3 or 4 games to end THAT story and do a new Witcher their forums will be filled with fans begging them not to lol. If their stories, writing and world in Cyberpunk are as good as what they have done with the Witcher series you yourself may be clamoring for a Cyberpunk 4 or 5 instead of a new Witcher

All that being said I would not mind exploring Vessimere's story or even picking up with Ciri IF they ever decide to make a new Witcher.

We will all have to meet back here in 10 years, dig up this ancient thread and see who made the correct predictions

 

[Willowhugger]

Given they have a perfectly serviceable engine, world, and MASSIVE numbers of premodeled characters, skins, and systems it seems ludicrous they should just leave it alone for the next generation of hardware.

That's a collossal waste of money and resources.

It's also why the video game industry is failing in many places because they don't recycle what is perfectly fine.

Fans want new stories, not just new techniques.

Ubisoft is about the only company in the world which realizes "if it ain't broke, don't fix it."

Frankly, I'm just glad they're doing the Expansions because it shows they CAN make essentially Half a Game right there. The only question *I* have is why they don't just merge "Blood and Wine" and the Oxenfurt Expansion with a third Expansion and release an entire separate game to begin with.

 

[zaskar70]

That's pessimistic thinking, I think.

Especially if they choose to do a quicker smaller spin-off. The expansions are going to keep us occupied to 2016 but nothing keeps CD_Projekt Red from doing a game with the same engine and resources for some quick $$$ and much fan gratitude.

The "Witcher: New Vegas" or "Witcher: Geralt out of Hell" if you will.

Actually his prediction of 2020 is pretty conservative. It took CDPR about 3 to 4 years to create Witcher 3 Wild Hunt so if you were to assume they were going to continue to develop games in the same way with the same attention to detail etc and they have a plan to do several Cyberpunk games you are probably realistically looking at 7 to 10 years from now for another Witcher game so I would say 2022 to 2025 or so.

 

[Goodmongo]

That's pessimistic thinking, I think.

Especially if they choose to do a quicker smaller spin-off. The expansions are going to keep us occupied to 2016 but nothing keeps CD_Projekt Red from doing a game with the same engine and resources for some quick $$$ and much fan gratitude.

The "Witcher: New Vegas" or "Witcher: Geralt out of Hell" if you will.

Don't get me wrong as a gamer I would love it. As a realist I highly doubt it. They have said for the next two years they are devoting time to TW3. That means there will be additional DLC's (if they sell) beyond the two already committed to. Probably 1-2 more.

Then they said they were going to devote their time and energy to another project that wasn't witcher based. So if that's a big project that means 2-3 more years. That places us around 2020 when they will just start on the next witcher type game. If you look at various big franchise game cycles (Fallout, Elder Scrolls, Mass Effect etc.) these are now 4+ year time spans between games (ME 4-5 years, Fallout 5 years, Elder Scrolls 6+ years?).

Our hearts want it sooner but history shows 2020+ is way more realistic.

 

[zaskar70]

Given they have a perfectly serviceable engine, world, and MASSIVE numbers of premodeled characters, skins, and systems it seems ludicrous they should just leave it alone for the next generation of hardware.

That's a collossal waste of money and resources.

It's also why the video game industry is failing in many places because they don't recycle what is perfectly fine.

Fans want new stories, not just new techniques.

Ubisoft is about the only company in the world which realizes "if it ain't broke, don't fix it."

Frankly, I'm just glad they're doing the Expansions because it shows they CAN make essentially Half a Game right there. The only question *I* have is why they don't just merge "Blood and Wine" and the Oxenfurt Expansion with a third Expansion and release an entire separate game to begin with.

Your not taking into account technology moving forward. By the time they do another Witcher game IF they ever do the "perfectly serviceable engine, world, and MASSIVE numbers of premodeled characters, skins, and systems" will all be completely out of date as far as graphics and engine tech is concerned.

Its like comparing Witcher 1 to Witcher 3, why didn't they just use everything they had already done with Witcher 1? because it was obsolete and out of date on a lot of levels.

 

[Willowhugger]

Your not taking into account technology moving forward. By the time they do another Witcher game IF they ever do the "perfectly serviceable engine, world, and MASSIVE numbers of premodeled characters, skins, and systems" will all be completely out of date as far as graphics and engine tech is concerned.

Its like comparing Witcher 1 to Witcher 3, why didn't they just use everything they had already done with Witcher 1? because it was obsolete and out of date on a lot of levels.

The problem with that attitude is, essentially, the same one which destroyed the Duke Nukem franchise. They always wanted to be at the cutting edge of the technology curve.

Hence they remade the game, essentially 20 times.

But, I don't necessarily think you have to be in order to please fans. Currently, they're uploading about 100 games to Xbox One from the Xbox 360 and people are going NUTS over it.

Despite these being supposedly "outdated" games.

 

[wright1978]

I wonder if they'll carry on focusing on one franchise predominantly. If the Witcher 3 is a huge financial success might it inspire expansion and much more parrallel game development than's seemed the case up to now.

 

[zaskar70]

The problem with that attitude is, essentially, the same one which destroyed the Duke Nukem franchise. They always wanted to be at the cutting edge of the technology curve.

Hence they remade the game, essentially 20 times.

But, I don't necessarily think you have to be in order to please fans. Currently, they're uploading about 100 games to Xbox One from the Xbox 360 and people are going NUTS over it.

Despite these being supposedly "outdated" games.

Those are old games being made available to play on the latest system, thats all, not new games being created with old tech. There is a HUGE difference.

I'm sure CDPR IS going to use the newer assets they have created for Wild Hunt, only not for a new Witcher game but for Cyberpunk. There were still some things that CDPR wanted to do in Wild Hunt but couldnt because they were constrained by tech, hence the "graphical downgrade", im sure as soon as they can make those types of things possible they will WANT to do it just because it's what they like to do.

They WANT to bring the worlds they create to life in the most realistic way they can, it's what they LIKE to do, it's their thing and it's also one of the reasons why we love their games.

If im a modelor working for CDPR I want to make the most kick ass models I can because thats what I enjoy doing, thats my career of choice. I dont want to be constrained in any way tech wise. I would not want to work for a company who told me to disregard all the new modeling programs and techniques that were standard in the industry just because.

I think your also confusing "bleeding edge tech" with "industry standard tech", the Witcher 3 is NOT bleeding edge tech its pretty much industry standard, stuff that is known to work.

No developer out there ever makes any AAA game using bleeding edge tech its just way to risky, not to mention 90% of your customers wont even be able to run the damn game.

Industry standard will be a lot different in 7 years than what it is today if history is any indication, and CDPR will still i'm sure be able to utilize many of it's in house assets that are able to be tweaked up to that standard.

 

[saricc]

Actually his prediction of 2020 is pretty conservative. It took CDPR about 3 to 4 years to create Witcher 3 Wild Hunt so if you were to assume they were going to continue to develop games in the same way with the same attention to detail etc and they have a plan to do several Cyberpunk games you are probably realistically looking at 7 to 10 years from now for another Witcher game so I would say 2022 to 2025 or so.

10-12 years is probably about right if they decide to continue with The Witcher.

 

[Willowhugger]

10-12 years is probably about right if they decide to continue with The Witcher.

I expect the next Witcher game to get started within the time of Cyberpunk's release.

 

[Smurfin]

What I expect in The Witcher 4, if it's going to make it :
- More creatures be it monsters, wild animals, or tame animals. 80 type of monsters just aren't enough for the huge world.
- Don't use leveling system, make it like a Zelda game where a sword is just a sword, a bow is just a bow, the durability system of the sword is good, it loses damage but it still can be used for killing.
- Invent other mechanics for upgrading Geralt's gears, like durability, damage (but not too much), or hardness for armor. People like aesthetic things too so make the armors cool.
- Make use of places in the world into story often.
- Borrow some rpg elements from Zelda game, it's one of the most anticipated franchise in the world that keeps reusing its unique rpg elements, why the hell noone made a clone of it.
- More combat, even if story is the strongest part of the series, combat plays the same important role for a game, it's the gameplay of a game, so make it more often, and of course it needs more enemy types ;D
- Make sophisticated AI for the enemies, so every encounter with them are thrilling and exciting, a real threat but manageable, it works for quite some time in the Witcher 3, but Geralt powercreeps them with more skills.
- Put a lot more details into the 'living breathing ecosystem' , surprise us more. These little things can make the game more immersive by tenfold if there are a lot of random events even though it's only small details, so we keep seeing different random thing anywhere.

Actually I don't mind if CDPR keeps making expansions or random free dlc for The Witcher 3 while working on Cyberpunk 2077. The world is huge, it still has a lot of rooms for more content, it even can still be expanded with new regions. It doesn't have to be main story, side story with new characters in new region would be as good.

 

[Deathis]

-Ciri as the main character

-Geralt making an appearance

-Discovering all the other Witcher schools besides Wolf.

-Rebirth of the Witchers

 

[Abjatha]

Personally I'd like to see prequel as Geralt, https://www.google.ee/search?q=occasionally&spell=1&sa=X&ei=6-iHVcPiAsitswH2zJr4Cw&ved=0CBkQvwUoAAoccasionally having chance to play from a mage perspective. I just recently started reading first book, but from what I've heard maybe Vilgefortz could make a great antagonist. I can't remember how TW1 was, but both TW2 and TW3 have serious mid to late game enemy npc balance issues. Early on in White Orchard and Velen it's pretty good on deathmarch. As time goes by it gets easier and easier, after some point in mid game you can literally ignore most combat mechanics and faceroll your way to victory. Without exaggerating, fighting first pack of ghouls with Vesemir was more challenging, than Caranthir on deathmarch. I would really like to have it addressed without resorting to addons.