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Navid_Soleimani

Navid_Soleimani

Fresh user
#401
DRK3 said:
Making a witcher themed expansion might not be the best lore-wise, creating even more inconsistencies between gameplay and story.

However, players have been asking and begging the devs for more witchers for years. And i am constantly complaining how the devs dont listen to their playerbase, but not this time, for once they actually listened.

And it makes sense, from a business point of view - Witchers are super popular, just look how many have tried and insisted on witcher decks even though those kinda suck.
Choosing a witcher theme will seriously increase their chances of success, even with MTX, and bring them a loot of goodwill from the players, a lot of which were/are discontent with the current state of the game. Im only surprised it took so long (this is the 6th expansion) for them to "play the Witcher card" (pun intended :shrug:)
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I have no problems if they allow themselves some liberties here and there, if it's adding to the witcher universe and ain't a, messing with the characters and b, changing anything about the main story.....so yeah I'm fine with it
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replayNinja said:
That's questionable. Ppl will mostly flock to it because it's the shiny new expansion. Same thing happened last expansion with Wild Hunt...even those who didn't play MO tried it but now....you'd be hard pressed to see a frost themed WH deck anywhere. The factions that have good synergy with witcher cards (the same ones as before actually) will make the best use of them, that's probably NG and new to the list ST and maybe SK if I had to guess. I don't see players who have left flocking back when the balancing issues are still on the "dog ate my homework" list that the devs are building up. If anything this expansion (like the last) will only add to an already exhaustive and toxic state of play
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I think the Witchers will have a home in NR decks too.....from what I have seen the griffins aren't too shabby
 
Messyr

Messyr

Forum regular
#404
rrc said:
Fallen Rayla
Revealed by the one and only TryNet

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1332207865994629120
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Very happy that they finally added White (or in this case, Fallen) Rayla. Excellent art.
As for the effect and power of the card - I remain unconvinced, Adr 3 seems to be a bit harsh for me. Reasonable if you plan your finishers (Savolla, etc) for your last 2-3 cards, but very limiting. At least it comes down as an 8 for 11 with the Adr condition fulfilled.
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InkognitoXI

InkognitoXI

Forum veteran
#405
Pacifixer said:
Savola, Tinboy, Moreelse, Jaques :D
I wonder how is Rayla going to interact with Luisa and Off the Books.
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I wonder about that as well, truth be told, it would be extremely weird if the actual Tribute support leader ability would have anti-synergy with this card.
Also there is Azar Javed, who is also a self-fullfilling tribute.
 
Markus_Wirth

Markus_Wirth

Senior user
#406
rrc said:
Fallen Rayla
Revealed by the one and only TryNet

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1332207865994629120
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Great concept.

Assuming that paying own tribute cost also count, the body of this unit can be 8 + Veil.
Then your goal is to play other tribute heavy cards. There are the ones offering no profit but are expensive (e.g. Tinboy, Savolla) and other ones like Jacques having also some profit connected. So I would argue that she can be a 20+ units if protected.

If I got it right Madame Luiza is antisynergizing with her, as a tribute cost of 0 is related to a boost of Fallen Rayla of 0. Same holds for the discounts related with Off the books.

Regarding synergizing leaders I would argue for Jackpot and Blood Money as you need in your Fallen Rayla round as many coins as possible. Maybe it also works with lined pockets or congregate.

Regarding synergizing cards: Of course high tribute cards, Coin producers and profit cards and those cards benefiting from the Salamandra Tag (Stolen Mutagens, Assault). Probably this card should also be protected by Azar Javed due to the risk of tall removal. Mutant makers are probably also great synergizing in a devotion deck.
 
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InkognitoXI

InkognitoXI

Forum veteran
#408
Draconifors said:
Is ST getting 11 cards or is there a Gold token yet to be revealed between Cat Witcher and Brehen? Hmm.
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Gold tokens are not a thing and all Tokens should by default be 0 provision cards.
The only solution for the 11th spot that I am aware of would be a transformed version of a unit (or in general card), like evolving cards (which would require 2 unused spots) or a unit like the Duny version of Urcheon of Erlenwald.

Edit: A reminder for everyone that we still have not seen the Cat Witcher Adept, the white Griffin and other 2 monsters before it from the trailer, as well as the 3 other (high end) Witchers for NR, ST or SK from the trailer (the NG one has been revealed to be Ivar Evil-Eye). And unless the last revealed monster from the trailer is supposedto be Salamandra Abomination, which I somewhat doubt, we have not seen any of those monsters yet.
We also have not seen the supposed Location cards yet.
 
Draconifors

Draconifors

Moderator
#409
InkognitoXI said:
Gold tokens are not a thing
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They are, and there are many of them. Shupes, Savolla's Frightener, Dana and Moorvran, and probably forgot some.

Of course they are 0 Provisions, but they're also Golds. I would check where/if the Frightener was revealed for Novigrad but the page doesn't exist anymore.
 
InkognitoXI

InkognitoXI

Forum veteran
#411
Draconifors said:
They are, and there are many of them. Shupes, Savolla's Frightener, Dana and Moorvran, and probably forgot some.

Of course they are 0 Provisions, but they're also Golds. I would check where/if the Frightener was revealed for Novigrad but the page doesn't exist anymore.
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My bad, I forgot those.
 
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ReaperTek

ReaperTek

Senior user
#413
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Markus_Wirth

Markus_Wirth

Senior user
#415
rrc said:
Griffin Witcher
Revealed by ZigZakGuy

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1332339267838767104
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Hmmh a typical damage one per turn turn. NR´s most comparable counterpart is Redanian Archer. Actually I would prefer the Redanian archer. The adrenaline effect is kind of bad as you loose the ability after that.

Of course in numbers the Griffin witcher brings two value more because of the higher body and less removal risk.
Especially in Revenant deck random damage is not really helpful as you need those damage pingers to prepare your revenants.
Furthermore, the soldier tag is very valuable in NR (Ambitious Assault, Viraxas, Bloody Flail).

If I get it right Fortune Teller might be a good synergy to the card. If you veil him before adrenaline he will ping three random damage after Adrenaline 3. So if card survives 6 additional random damage. This might be a use case.
 
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Guest 4375874

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#418
Navid_Soleimani said:
I have no problems if they allow themselves some liberties here and there, if it's adding to the witcher universe and ain't a, messing with the characters and b, changing anything about the main story.....so yeah I'm fine with it
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I think the Witchers will have a home in NR decks too.....from what I have seen the griffins aren't too shabby
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the only reason I don't think they will is NR is already Tier 1 in my mind. Ppl may try out the Witchers but I don't see it as an auto include when they already have almost as much consistency as SK but you may be right, especially considering AA gives them an advantage.
 
InkognitoXI

InkognitoXI

Forum veteran
#419
rrc said:
Arnaghad
Revealed by Shinmiri

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1332382237577211905
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Sounds like a non-degenerate version of traps.
I wonder if this card is all that great, given that no matter how small the unit the opponent plays is Anaghad would usually still damage himself by 7 points.
Interesting is that this card cannot kill itself, as long as it has even 1 point of armor and that it has massive healing synergies (like Restore or Bekker's Dark Mirror).
Edit: This unit does have good synergy with Geralt: Quen.

replayNinja said:
the only reason I don't think they will is NR is already Tier 1 in my mind. Ppl may try out the Witchers but I don't see it as an auto include when they already have almost as much consistency as SK but you may be right, especially considering AA gives them an advantage.
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Honestly I am confused by this mindeset.
People tend to differentiate by decks, not by factions, meaning that even if a Witcher deck would be Tier 2, while Shieldwall would not get the deserved nerfs, people (like me) would still play all versions from a given faction.
Your argument would mean that decks like SK Druids and SK Warrior or NR Shieldwall and NR Revenants could not simultaniously exist as people would only gravitate towards what leaves a larger meta impact, even if its edge would be small in comparison.
 
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