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DRK3

DRK3

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#781
Dec 4, 2020
OneWhoCravesSouls said:
Revealed by Garigari.
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This is the definition of powercreep! Not because the card is inherently super strong, but it literally does the same as 2 bronze cards: Courier + Offiri Merchant
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OuterSpaceDoggo said:
- If i Activate Syanna Before paying the Tribute 9 of Salamander will it poison every unit twice killing everything? Or does it check the coins available for tribute twice?
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You need to pay the tribute twice, and since there's a limit of 9 coins and no chance to use a leader ability between tributes, for the combo to work and destroy everything with salamander, you need syanna, luiza, the amount of coins for tribute and salamander.

You can see Fuchsia briefs video on Syanna Tinboy, he does the same tactic to do the deploy tribute effect of Tinboy twice, doing 4 dmg to every enemy unit on both rows, its quite spectactular.

And this nuke combo its the closest we have og Beta Kambi, my favourite Gwent card of all time, so im excited.
 
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Slizzl

Slizzl

Forum regular
#782
Dec 4, 2020
DRK3 said:
This is the definition of powercreep! Not because the card is inherently super strong, but it literally does the same as 2 bronze cards: Courier + Offiri Merchant
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True. I've felt Courier should be 4 provisions for a while now. Similarly to Vicovaro it's purely a setup card and at 5 provisions it never sees play. Ofiri Merchant already is and it's a neutral which makes it more justified in comparison to Viper Alchemist.
 
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Markus_Wirth

Markus_Wirth

Forum regular
#783
Dec 4, 2020
DRK3 said:
This is the definition of powercreep! Not because the card is inherently super strong, but it literally does the same as 2 bronze cards: Courier + Offiri Merchant
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Courier was a card seeing not much play at all. With his ranged you can prepare a Cantarella. With SY I see no usecase for his Ranged ability. I would also speak for giving him 4 provisions.
 
OneWhoCravesSouls

OneWhoCravesSouls

Forum regular
#784
Dec 4, 2020
DRK3 said:
This is the definition of powercreep! Not because the card is inherently super strong, but it literally does the same as 2 bronze cards: Courier + Offiri Merchant
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Well those 2 are at least cheap and don't have a order ability.

IMG_20201204_160755.jpg
 
Riven-Twain

Riven-Twain

Moderator
#785
Dec 4, 2020
DoubleDealer said:
The art style of Gwent isn't always consistent.
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True enough. I believe this is the result of having so many different contributing artists, and that some artworks were created at different times, some earlier, and some later.
 
Markus_Wirth

Markus_Wirth

Forum regular
#786
Dec 4, 2020
Well Isbel is surely stronger. You have more flexibility and can really decide which of those you want. Furthermore you can use her to increase the potential length of a round. Nevertheless, I also think that 8 provisions is too expensive.
 
Messyr

Messyr

Forum regular
#787
Dec 4, 2020
Markus_Wirth said:
Mad Kiyan is a unit I never really understood. When you do damage you basically want to elliminate a dangerous opponent unit and this is punished via destruction (deathblow!) which basically costs 6 points. Of course you can "prepare" a destruction and make the final kill with units like Redanian Archer, but this appears to be very difficult.
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Agreed, I always feel confused as to what really the devs wanted to achieve with this card. The "damage a unit by the amount of buff" part is solid, but looks very awkward by losing all those invested points on a deathblow (which is a rather desired outcome when you target an important unit).

I also understand the concept behind Kiyan being in an unstable state and prone to expiring upon too much extra buffs/etc.

I would change it the following way:

Mad Kiyan
Witcher - useable by NR and SC
6 power / 8 provisions
At the end of your turn damage 2 random enemy units on the opposing row by 1 and give them Bleeding (1).
After 2 allied turns, on the start of your turn, give Rupture to self.
Deathwish: damage all units on this row by 1.


The idea behind this design is to emphasize the volatile state in which Kiyan is: aggressive damage output at the cost of being unstable. However, a well timed Purify or Lock can stop him from going self destruct after 3 active turns :)
 
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Sensimilius

Forum regular
#788
Dec 4, 2020
Markus_Wirth said:
Mad Kiyan is a unit I never really understood. When you do damage you basically want to elliminate a dangerous opponent unit and this is punished via destruction (deathblow!) which basically costs 6 points. Of course you can "prepare" a destruction and make the final kill with units like Redanian Archer, but this appears to be very difficult.
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Well you lose more then 6 points on Deathblow, since you also lose all the boost you gave him. He doesn't lose his boosts when he uses his order ability unless he kills his target.
 
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Gyg

Gyg

Forum regular
#789
Dec 4, 2020
The griffin Witcher ranger is another target for the griffin adept once you transfered the boosts. With so many shields (also Geralt Quen) King Roegner is a nice finisher.
 
OneWhoCravesSouls

OneWhoCravesSouls

Forum regular
#790
Dec 4, 2020
Markus_Wirth said:
Well Isbel is surely stronger. You have more flexibility and can really decide which of those you want. Furthermore you can use her to increase the potential length of a round. Nevertheless, I also think that 8 provisions is too expensive.
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Agreed that she's stronger if you're able to use her order, but that is sadly rarely the case whenever she enters the battlefield everyone tries to remove or move her, with the Alchemist you practically get to the same result (obviously you need something to be able to play the Card you swapt, but NG has enough options to do that) while also being able to pick the worst of you're top 3 Cards.
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Markus_Wirth

Markus_Wirth

Forum regular
#791
Dec 4, 2020
OneWhoCravesSouls said:
Agreed that she's stronger if you're able to use her order, but that is sadly rarely the case whenever she enters the battlefield everyone tries to remove or move her, with the Alchemist you practically get to the same result (obviously you need something to be able to play the Card you swapt, but NG has enough options to do that) while also being able to pick the worst of you're top 3 Cards.
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Apparently, a new character. Never heard of Maxii before.

Just to understand her correctly. When you play her you basically have the advantage of knowing which cards are the next you get and can get rid of one unwanted card and can reshuffle if you really do not like the upcoming quest.
Am I right with the assumption that there is no reshuffling after each round? So only specific cards like Assire var Anahid can force you to shuffle again?
 
DRK3

DRK3

Senior user
#792
Dec 4, 2020
Markus_Wirth said:
Apparently, a new character. Never heard of Maxii before.

Just to understand her correctly. When you play her you basically have the advantage of knowing which cards are the next you get and can get rid of one unwanted card and can reshuffle if you really do not like the upcoming quest.
Am I right with the assumption that there is no reshuffling after each round? So only specific cards like Assire var Anahid can force you to shuffle again?
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Yes, it definitely is a R1 card, basically just to assure you will get your golds on R2 and 3 draws, otherwise you should probably use the reshuffle and put a crappy card on the bottom.

And there is no reshuffling between rounds, the only cards that reshuffle the deck mention it in the card, and if it says 'shuffle this card into the deck', that card goes in there randomly but the order of the other cards remains the same.
 
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Slizzl

Slizzl

Forum regular
#793
Dec 4, 2020
OneWhoCravesSouls said:
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1334892976972177409
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Seems kinda strong for a 6 prov 6 power card no?

Markus_Wirth said:
Apparently, a new character. Never heard of Maxii before.
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I think it's another dev insert.
 
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quintivarium

Forum regular
#794
Dec 4, 2020
I can’t identify what faction Maxii is. Looks brown like neutrals, but with a pattern kind of like SK but not really.
 
rrc

rrc

Senior user
#795
Dec 4, 2020
Warrit the all seeing
Revealed by Shaggy
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1334913663468179460
 
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Markus_Wirth

Markus_Wirth

Forum regular
#796
Dec 4, 2020
Do not know if I consider her to strong.
You can use her, are happy with your cards. Then it´s a 6 for 6. You can be unhappy with your cards, you get rid of a unwanted card and that´s it. Real value is never more than 6 for 6 but you can increase the likelihood of drawing better cards a bit. From my understanding such cards, are kind of normal in deck building games (like Dominion for instance).

If you want to include her you have to think about 6 provisions alternatives at NG:

Peter Saar Gwynleve: 3 body, Deploy: Reset the power of a unit.
-> Success of this card is very depenent on which deck you face (typically NG)

Rico Meiersdorf: Whenever your opponent plays a unit while Rico is in your hand, set his power equal to that unit's base power.
-> Even more dependent. Porbably only lucky against MO.

Roderick of Dun Tynne: Disloyal. Deploy: Look at 2 random gold cards from your deck, then play 1 of them. -> NG´s best tutor, can double use via Coup de Grace; great synergies with masquerade ball; but must be careful; in worst cases you do not have golds in your deck when you play him (my NG 6 provision favorite)

Traheaern var Vdyffir: Deploy: Look at the top 3 cards in your opponent's deck and move 1 to their graveyard.
-> Can seriously harm opponent when you manage to get a strong card (very likely as you draw 3). Nice synergies with deck milling; Antisynergies with deck filling (new WotW concept);

Vanhemar: Deploy (Ranged): Destroy a Locked enemy unit.
-> Synergizes nicely when you have a block intense deck/leader. But can be a 3 for 6 if you do not have enough blocker

Amnesty :
Seize an enemy unit with 3 power or less. Conspiracy: Boost it by 2.Devotion: Always trigger Conspiracy ability.
-> Success heavily depends if you have valuable targets. Very risky!

Viper Witcher: Deploy: Reveal the top card from your opponent's deck and Banish it.
-> To my mind the worse Traheaern var Vdyffir

=> Maxii is the 6 provision card offering by far the highest guranteed value of 6. However I think that Roderick of Dun Tynne, Traheaern var Vdyffir and Vanhemar are usually the better 6 provision alternatives.
 
InkognitoXI

InkognitoXI

Senior user
#797
Dec 4, 2020
Markus_Wirth said:
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If you want to include her you have to think about 6 provisions alternatives at NG:
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Unless I am mistaken the card is clearly a Neutral card ...

rrc said:
Warrit the all seeing
Revealed by Shaggy
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1334913663468179460
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Nice, this into Mentors into Cantarella for amazing tempo and taking away the opponent highest provision card (like a Scenario, etc) definitely sounds decent.
 
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Markus_Wirth

Forum regular
#798
Dec 4, 2020
Warritt the All-Seeing.

Also a new character entering the witcher universe.
I like his idea. If you have the right cards you can prepare Cantarella, viper witcher alchemist or Imperial Golem.
If you do not have synergizing cards you can put some garbage in top of the opponents deck
 
DRK3

DRK3

Senior user
#799
Dec 4, 2020
rrc said:
Warrit the all seeing
Revealed by Shaggy
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1334913663468179460
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Now that card will be NG deck manipulator's new favourite...
Most decks of other factions can easily run techs for pretty much anything except deck control... so the only way to counter Warrit is be forced to tutor it immediately and play it or it will be stolen.

Im guessing a lot of scenarios will be stolen thanks to that card...
 
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Markus_Wirth

Forum regular
#800
Dec 4, 2020
InkognitoXI said:
Unless I am mistaken the card is clearly a Neutral card ...
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My mistake. Just read about a sun and made a connection to NG. But it´s the other important sun in the witcher universe.
 
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