Way of the Witcher revealed!

[Bleach25]

I think that Idarran will mostly support Kiki/Koschey decks.

Snowdrop and Selective mutation are basically two big middle fingers to Warrit the all seeing, the latter especially. Oh and of course there's Griffin Witcher Mentor, though I'm not sure he's going to see play.

 

[InkognitoXI]

I think that Idarran will mostly support Kiki/Koschey decks.
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Koshchey overswarms like crazy though.

 

[Jollyrogerxberg]

Anyone has an idea regarding the saber-tooth? I would asume this to be one transformable card like the frightener (dormant)
but unit has 9prov, the artifact has 10prov.... is this just an oversight?

Let's not forget the fact that Idarran increases the effect of most Scenarios as well, summoning and extra engine for each
Or the instant extra 6 from a Svalblood Totem.
Now, if you just add a Cosimo drop after these 1-s are on the board...

sounds crazy as shit but totem will only spawn you an extra fanatic with 4p. you'll need some other selfwound to turn it.

guess it will be full meme time when wotw hits. I'm going to try this new nilf and the scoia movement. Then I will turn away disgusted by more insame crazy remove or forfeit cards and try again next month ...or the one after...like last expansion.

seriously i am glad that underdeveloped archetypes get some love. even this crazy graveyard and deck manipulation stuff, looks way better then mill but keeping the idea of winning by cutting opponents support (deck) rather then an open battle in the field

 

[InkognitoXI]

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sounds crazy as shit but totem will only spawn you an extra fanatic with 4p. you'll need some other selfwound to turn it.
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Nope, it is spawned as a 1 strength unit and thus the berserk condition is immediately met.

 

[Jollyrogerxberg]

well "the one who is able to read has a clear advantage" and some memory could also help

(dunno if it translate well - in german we have a saying like this)

 

[Markus_Wirth]

I made some thoughts in which decks Idarran can add most value and did a small ranking.

1) Arachas Swarm + Caranthir Ar-Feiniel + Kikimore Queen +Arachas Behemoth + Endrega Queen + Endrega Larva + many organic specials (+Defender)
+ Probably Tripple Kiki can be the most powerful point machine but you must be lucky with your draws (maybe add Oneiromancy and/or Naglfar to enhance draw likelihood). In case this combo does not work Endrega Larvaes, leader ability and so will still add significantly value
- High likelihood of overflooding your board. Glustyworp can help to get some space, if you use him for Kiki Queen his row is basically full.

2) Fruits of Ysgith + Katakan + Endrega Larva + Nekker + Koschey (Defender)
+ Can intensely increase your thrive tools, Katakan works both as a thrive-triggerer, thriver-getter and spawner
- Except the leader there are only 6 cards out of 25 which benefit from Idarran

3) Congregate + Passiflora + Adriano the Mink + Firesworn swarmer + Ivar the Hook (+Defender)
+ Get a lot engines out of Idarran
- Might have some problems with generating enough coins and activating Passiflora, Risk of overflooding your board; loose valuable devotion (Ulrich and Jacques)

4) Overhelming hunger + Haunt + Katakan + Celaeno Harpy + Endrega Larva + Endrega Eggs + Nightwraith + Idr (+Defender)
+ Having various units whch benefit from Idarran
- Risk of overflooding your board

5) Deadeye Ambush + Feign Death + Vernossiel +Ele'yas + Half-Elf Hunter + Waylay + Scoia'tael Neophyte +
Aen Seidhe Sabre + The Great Oak + Aelirenn + Isengrim Faoiltiarna + Yaevinn
+The additional elf tokens can add intense value via Eleyas (+5 Deploy value; +1 additional elf token), Yaevinn, The Great Oak, Aelirenn, Isengrim and Vernossiel
- To my mind biggest risk of board overflooding and negative synergies with elfs like Vrihedd Vanguard and Vernossiel's Commando

6) Ursine Ritual + Cerys an Craite + Svalblod Totem + Harald Houndsnout + Lippy Goldmund
+ Svalblod Totem can be 18 for 10; nice carryover with Cerys
- very limited amount of target cards (maybe add some neutral spawners)

7) Mobilization + Queen Adalia +Forbidden Magic + Kaedweni Revenant + Redanian Archer (+ Operateur) (+Siege package)
+ Can be powerful as an additional Redanian archer can help to to have enough targets for Revenants
- Current Revenant decks are doing a good job, likely that deck gets less proactive if you have to spend one turn for Idarran, vulnerable to row punishment

 

[Gyg]

Is Idarran spawning in his row or in the row of spawned card? If in his then Revenants are more powerful as you can fill both rows.
Nevertheless he is too powerful, I would reduce his strength to 5 to be within bronze cards removal.

 

[replayNinja]

I don't like the card but honestly I don't think it's as game breaking as it's being made to be. As a neutral it's looking more and more like a meme card the more I think about it with few exceptions. The factions who have powerful bronzes or Golds that warrant copying don't likely need this card (especially since it denies them their evolving cards at full strength) and the ones that don't will only fill their board with weak bronzes or tokens. I guess time will tell but this really should have been a MO artifact like Frightener or something rather than a neutral unit.

 

[DRK3]

I don't know.. how many Heatwaves can we pack in our deck?

You know, there is a thing called locks... Players like to pretend its just a NG thing, but all factions except MO have a faction lock that can be really helpful, its probably one of the things where my deck most differ from the meta, as i include them in 90% of my decks.

(EDIT) ST even has 2, Morenn and Ciaran, and i usually include both, even on dwarf decks or elf decks.

But i agree with the rest of your statement - there seems to be a lot of insane engines coming and you wont be able to counter them all. I've even had difficulty imagining what will be popular and what will be better, since the abilities at least are not easy to calculate its value like in other expansions, where i could kinda see what will be powerful.

What i do know is the new cards will be overall way better than old ones, but between the new ones which will be the best, i cant say.

 

[replayNinja]

You know, there is a thing called locks... Players like to pretend its just a NG thing, but all factions except MO have a faction lock that can be really helpful, its probably one of the things where my deck most differ from the meta, as i include them in 90% of my decks.

(EDIT) ST even has 2, Morenn and Ciaran, and i usually include both, even on dwarf decks or elf decks.

But i agree with the rest of your statement - there seems to be a lot of insane engines coming and you wont be able to counter them all. I've even had difficulty imagining what will be popular and what will be better, since the abilities at least are not easy to calculate its value like in other expansions, where i could kinda see what will be powerful.

What i do know is the new cards will be overall way better than old ones, but between the new ones which will be the best, i cant say.

lol If locks were the simple solution then the past few months NG would be at the top, not SK/NR

The question then becomes, how many locks do you have. Recall the same issue arose with poison and even when people added purify units it wasn't enough. Unless you are NG you will not have enough locks to tackle all these cards and even that might not be enough.

 

[DRK3]

lol If locks were the simple solution then the past few months NG would be at the top, not SK/NR

The question then becomes, how many locks do you have. Recall the same issue arose with poison and even when people added purify units it wasn't enough. Unless you are NG you will not have enough locks to tackle all these cards and even that might not be enough.

But against NG, players except locks and play around them. Its the unexpected lock, from other factions, that sees true value - sometimes players try to play around removal but locks dont care how big the unit is.

And yes, other factions dont have enough locks to counter a full engine deck, but its good to have different ways to tech instead of just focusing on one type, so you also have removal, also have purify, etc.

 

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[replayNinja]

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umm....ok. Happy for beast support but ....it converts units into rats. Is there any benefit to this besides filling your rows ?_? Is it 5 for 7 because it consumes on turn end? Seems worse than Slyzard. I guess spreading out your points can be advantageous but not like that, you'd fill one row in two turns.

 

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[DRK3]

Congratulations, you killed Portal... and with it, portal decks.

Boosting Roche Merciless, and BS decks is not a good move, the deck is underrated, look at Kolemoen using it instead of Cursed Realms or Shieldwall and now he's in the finals (this is being written before finals, during stream)

Did i get this right, Roach and Knickers are getting 1 less provision? So a huge buff to Lippy decks, that will piss off a lot of people, and they're probably right to be pissed.

Love the concept of location cards, they open a lot of possibilities and i think the meta will take much longer to settle than other expansions, lot of powerful decks that will take longer to be found.

(EDIT) Sorry for sticking out my post in the middle of these cards, i didnt mean to.

And where the F is Kaer Mohren location card?

 

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