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Willowhugger

Willowhugger

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#141
Jan 11, 2021
What I wrote:

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1348354005752307716
 
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Zefninja

Zefninja

Fresh user
#142
Jan 11, 2021
Moxy3 said:
They have a forum which is entirely dedicated to Cyberpunk 2077 and they use Twitter to get information.
Am i out of touch or is something wrong here?
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No you missing absolutely nothing. Its called social media pandering and its the essence of everything wrong with CDPR on the title. They hype-trained this game for 8 years, when it was only in development from Mid 2016 and now they doing their very best to invoke that "we love you consumers, we will make this the game you asked for".

Executives probably had a nappy rash after their investor/shareholder meeting, which is available for us to listen to by the way and some of the Senior Devs wanted to, in their own way help ease their plight.

While the sentiment is not lost on me, I too agree with you.. We have this brilliant platform but it is not truly being harnessed to its upmost potential to bring additional QA/QT from the very consumers they seek to satisfy.
 
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Willowhugger

Willowhugger

Forum veteran
#143
Jan 11, 2021
Zefninja said:
No you missing absolutely nothing. Its called social media pandering and its the essence of everything wrong with CDPR on the title. They hype-trained this game for 8 years, when it was only in development from Mid 2016 and now they doing their very best to invoke that "we love you consumers, we will make this the game you asked for".

Executives probably had a nappy rash after their investor/shareholder meeting, which is available for us to listen to by the way and some of the Senior Devs wanted to, in their own way help ease their plight.

While the sentiment is not lost on me, I too agree with you.. We have this brilliant platform but it is not truly being harnessed to its upmost potential to bring additional QA/QT from the very consumers they seek to satisfy.
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Given they lost a billion dollars in stock value, some pandering would be beneficial for everyone right now. I'm entirely happy if they can fix the bugs.

I also wouldn't MIND if they catered to the whims of us fanboys.

:)
 
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MAXXVOLTAGE

Forum regular
#144
Jan 11, 2021
Zefninja said:
No you missing absolutely nothing. Its called social media pandering and its the essence of everything wrong with CDPR on the title. They hype-trained this game for 8 years, when it was only in development from Mid 2016 and now they doing their very best to invoke that "we love you consumers, we will make this the game you asked for".

Executives probably had a nappy rash after their investor/shareholder meeting, which is available for us to listen to by the way and some of the Senior Devs wanted to, in their own way help ease their plight.

While the sentiment is not lost on me, I too agree with you.. We have this brilliant platform but it is not truly being harnessed to its upmost potential to bring additional QA/QT from the very consumers they seek to satisfy.
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Rawls said:
They definitely watch the forums and take feedback from here. They even participate some when the forums are a bit quieter. However, they post much less frequently than they used to prior to the Witcher 3 release. Here is an explanation as to why from one developer approximately five years ago. EDIT: He obviously isn't speaking for anyone other than himself, but I think it is a reasonable explanation.
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CNedelcu

CNedelcu

Forum regular
#145
Jan 11, 2021
MAXXVOLTAGE said:
- NO In my view the devs did not lie. There was no false advertisement .

- the rants about " missing features , 'the game we were promised" and 'false advertisings " did not take into account everything we saw and herd was not the finished product but part of the open development cycle .

- they shared an opened development process. They may have had 100 Ideas over 4 years of development if only 40 made it into the game. That was the finished game.

The open development cycle personally I think that was the absolute worst choice ever made in gaming as this was guaranteed to happen.

- I have seen posts on here where some last gen console users have enjoyed the game. That seem to be as forgotten as the some PC users dismissing every single post that says the game is running flawlessly on various hardwear /softwear configurations. and still insisting that it is the "software " that is broken not the fact its incompatible with their personal systems as a whole for some unknown reason.

In the end it last gen may have failed and being removed by Sony ( Micorsoft has not removed it interesting isnt it ?) but you could also interpret the comment as "Cyberpunk 2077 runs surprisingly well” on last gen console considering how old and outdated the system is and was never meant to run this game.

See how anything can have a different meaning. People choose to interpret what they see and read.

- if people choose to believe everything in the the various content shared up to release was "in the game" that's on them not the company.

- yet anyone that stands up and points this outs gets personally attacked and deemed as a " white knight" or "dev defender" or "Shill" which means they not capable of having an opinion that differs from they way dissatisfied people see things and have no mind of their own.

Zix135 said:

That wasn't the finished product though they were sharing the journey with the public so if they had 100 ideas for features during development doesn't mean all hundred will be in final product. when your developing something things can be cut all the way up to gold . That's part of development not a scam or false advertising.

If in my opinion if someone is going worry about the final product they should not preorder or even buy on day 1 they should wait till about 5 days later and read all the first impression reviews , social media impressions and game play videos and then decide if they buy it.

If they choose not to and are unhappy my opinion is that is not on the company but on the consumer .
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[...]

"- if people choose to believe everything in the the various content shared up to release was "in the game" that's on them not the company."
- that's called lying

"If in my opinion if someone is going worry about the final product they should not preorder or even buy on day 1 they should wait till about 5 days later and read all the first impression reviews , social media impressions and game play videos and then decide if they buy it."
- maybe CDPR should have not deceiving people into pre-order their product if they don't plan to deliver what people are paying for

"

the rants about " missing features , 'the game we were promised" and 'false advertisings " did not take into account everything we saw and herd was not the finished product but part of the open development cycle .

they shared an opened development process. They may have had 100 Ideas over 4 years of development if only 40 made it into the game. That was the finished game."

- they promised an EV and they delivered a Ford Model T pulled by a horse .. technically both are cars and will move you from A to B

"If they choose not to and are unhappy my opinion is that is not on the company but on the consumer ."
- just wow... [...]
 
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dreambled

dreambled

Senior user
#146
Jan 11, 2021
Zefninja said:
No you missing absolutely nothing. Its called social media pandering and its the essence of everything wrong with CDPR on the title. They hype-trained this game for 8 years, when it was only in development from Mid 2016 and now they doing their very best to invoke that "we love you consumers, we will make this the game you asked for"
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Absolutely false. They released an announcement trailer for Cyberpunk back in 2012 and then it was complete silence as they worked on the Witcher 3. The first thing gamers even had an inkling that the game was still even being worked on was the infamous beep tweet back in 2018.

People are forgetting that twitter is for their personal social media accounts. Thousands of people can see their tweets and reply to them. I've also been seeing enough criticism there as well. They know what people think about the game.
 
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B4R0N_D3K0

Fresh user
#147
Jan 11, 2021
My feedback is simple:

"From the creators of the Witcher 3: Wild Hunt"
Cyberpunk 2077 doesn't feel at all it was made from the same studio or creators.

The immersion and RPG elements in this game is in a horrible state.

Fix the bugs, release the "complete game" via free DLCs and give us new stories on Paid DLC.

Give us the full experience in the Single Player and naturally we all will consume your Multiplayer after.

Don't turn yourselves into a new Bioware
 
Zefninja

Zefninja

Fresh user
#148
Jan 11, 2021
Willowhugger said:
Given they lost a billion dollars in stock value, some pandering would be beneficial for everyone right now. I'm entirely happy if they can fix the bugs.

I also wouldn't MIND if they catered to the whims of us fanboys.

:)
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:howdy:Hi Willow. Valid point but then again, the share price will recover over time. If you look at the 5 year trend, alot of that was directly due to over eager hype marketing and that Cyberpunk would save 2020.

As to catering to us, the fans, I would have have applauded him saying that he is spearheading this big feedback drive and channeling us to the forums... maybe a specific template for reporting the feedback.
 
Moxy3

Moxy3

Forum regular
#149
Jan 11, 2021
MAXXVOLTAGE said:
- NO In my view the devs did not lie. There was no false advertisement .
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okay...PNG

Just a screenshot, nothing else has to be added to that comment of yours.
I wont even get started on your other points.
 
Willowhugger

Willowhugger

Forum veteran
#150
Jan 11, 2021
Moxy3 said:
View attachment 11138162
Just a screenshot, nothing else has to be added to that comment of yours.
I wont even get started on your other points.
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I love CDPR but the fact that they only used PC review copies and forbid the use of personal footage smacks of ass covering.

The thing is that didn't actually protect people from finding out once the game launched so I didn't know what they hoped to achieve.
 
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Zefninja

Zefninja

Fresh user
#151
Jan 11, 2021
dreambled said:
Absolutely false. They released an announcement trailer for Cyberpunk back in 2012 and then it was complete silence as they worked on the Witcher 3. The first thing gamers even had an inkling that the game was still even being worked on was the infamous beep tweet back in 2018.

People are forgetting that twitter is for their personal social media accounts. Thousands of people can see their tweets and reply to them. I've also been seeing enough criticism there as well. They know what people think about the game.
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19 Oct 2012 Title Reveal
10 Jan 2013 Trailer Drop
17 Jan 2013 Mike Pondsmith CP2077 reveal

Thereafter yes, the beep tweet and the subsequent hype commenced but I don't know how you can't call that building a hype train.
 
dreambled

dreambled

Senior user
#152
Jan 11, 2021
Zefninja said:
19 Oct 2012 Title Reveal
10 Jan 2013 Trailer Drop
17 Jan 2013 Mike Pondsmith CP2077 reveal

Thereafter yes, the beep tweet and the subsequent hype commenced but I don't know how you can't call that building a hype train.
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Easy,

It's years of absolute silence. You can't hype silence. I was around for all of that time, I've had people, friends even, concerned that this game was cancelled because there wasn't anything. That's why the beep tweet set people off.
 
I_Willenbrock_I

I_Willenbrock_I

Senior user
#153
Jan 11, 2021
dreambled said:
Easy,

It's years of absolute silence. You can't hype silence. I was around for all of that time, I've had people, friends even, concerned that this game was cancelled because there wasn't anything. That's why the beep tweet set people off.
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The hype skyrocketed when Keanu Reaves went on stage.
 
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dreambled

Senior user
#154
Jan 11, 2021
I_Willenbrock_I said:
The hype skyrocketed when Keanu Reaves went on stage.
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I would say E3 2018, but yeah, the hype definitely went up with Keanu as well.
 
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Elcontusion

Forum regular
#155
Jan 11, 2021
B4R0N_D3K0 said:
My feedback is simple:

"From the creators of the Witcher 3: Wild Hunt"
Cyberpunk 2077 doesn't feel at all it was made from the same studio or creators.

The immersion and RPG elements in this game is in a horrible state.

Fix the bugs, release the "complete game" via free DLCs and give us new stories on Paid DLC.

Give us the full experience in the Single Player and naturally we all will consume your Multiplayer after.

Don't turn yourselves into a new Bioware
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to me it absolutely feels like it was made by the same studio. the game is basically the witcher 3 with guns.
 
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I_Willenbrock_I

I_Willenbrock_I

Senior user
#156
Jan 11, 2021
Elcontusion said:
to me it absolutely feels like it was made by the same studio. the game is basically the witcher 3 with guns.
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Not in the slightest.
 
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Zefninja

Zefninja

Fresh user
#157
Jan 11, 2021
dreambled said:
Easy,

It's years of absolute silence. You can't hype silence. I was around for all of that time, I've had people, friends even, concerned that this game was cancelled because there wasn't anything. That's why the beep tweet set people off.
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Sure, I can respect your opinion on that.. my point regarding the hypetrain is creating distorted perceptions due to marketing techniques has no place in selling any consumed product.
 
M

MAXXVOLTAGE

Forum regular
#158
Jan 11, 2021
Moxy3 said:
View attachment 11138162
Just a screenshot, nothing else has to be added to that comment of yours.
I wont even get started on your other points.
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MAXXVOLTAGE said:
- I have seen posts on here where some last gen console users have enjoyed the game. That seem to be as forgotten as the some PC users dismissing every single post that says the game is running flawlessly on various hardwear /softwear configurations. and still insisting that it is the "software " that is broken not the fact its incompatible with their personal systems as a whole for some unknown reason.

In the end it last gen may have failed and being removed by Sony ( Micorsoft has not removed it interesting isnt it ?) but you could also interpret the comment as "Cyberpunk 2077 runs surprisingly well” on last gen console considering how old and outdated the system is and was never meant to run this game.

See how anything can have a different meaning. People choose to interpret what they see and read.
Click to expand...
 
Zefninja

Zefninja

Fresh user
#159
Jan 11, 2021
Elcontusion said:
to me it absolutely feels like it was made by the same studio. the game is basically the witcher 3 with guns.
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Yes, one of the biggest mistakes imho was implementing the same Point of Interest system utilized in the Witcher 3. They should have take a far greater emphasis on using the fixers or utilizing your cyberware or vehicles to tune in to the NCPD incident stuff. Hell even visiting a local NCPD precinct for the criminal behavior.
 
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dreambled

dreambled

Senior user
#160
Jan 11, 2021
Zefninja said:
Sure, I can respect your opinion on that.. my point regarding the hypetrain is creating distorted perceptions due to marketing techniques has no place in selling any consumed product.
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That's fine. I was commenting that you said there was a hype train that lasted the entire 8 years from when the game was first announced to release. That is undeniably false. The hype train started in 2018. Your point still stands though. It is also undeniable that CDPR/marketing said a lot of things that was not representative of the final product. I can forgive it for the 2018 48 minute gameplay video, I cannot forgive it for everything that they said in 2019 onward. They knew what the game was by then and what they were saying was not the reality of the game.
 
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