I knew it was a tabletop but 2077 is my actual introduction to the world, and I've since bought the Cyberpunk RED jumpstart kit. I'm very into this world so I've been reading anything I can find about it and Mike Pondsmith's vision.
Yes, if someone wants to read something interesting:
Find the Never Fade Away chapter in the sourcebook on pages 190 to 203.
Thank me later
Wow, I found it!
This explained a few things better from Johnny Silverhand's second flashback
Not really. Only trailer for game I think was 2013 trailer and I became aware that there's tabletop but I never thought that it could be actually pretty good take on the cyberpunk on it's own right. Cyperpunk 2077 really surprised me and I have looked up some things, often just to make suggestions for game that would make sense.
I started RPG in the 80's. I knew of Cyberpunk (I think I still have one of the manuals) but at the time my thing was Sword and Shield games not Sy Fi so I never ran a game. I could be wrong but I think this genre is better suited to todays computer video game play anyway. Especially the visuals. To me you can describe a castle completely with a page of words because it is something most people in the first world have seen examples of. Unless you have been to Japan Night City is more amazing with the "thousand words". lol.
As far as lore goes I'm more familiar with Shadowrun than I ever was with Cyberpunk.
Bought the 2.0.2.0 box when it came out, after a few years of a friend of mine running the 1st ed (2017) rules. At the time, we were so fried on D&D, and Bill Gibson's work was really powerful stuff. I think I picked up a copy of Walter Jon Williams' HardWired the same week as the CP2020 box, and the HardWired sourcebook. Still have copies of CP2020, Chromebook 1-3, HardWired, and other sourcebooks on the shelf of my RPG bookcase, next to the Earthdawn line, on the shelf below Shadowrun (all 5 editions and a pretty complete set of the 1st-3rd ed sourcebooks) and above the original World of Darkness games (VtM/WtA have their shelf, MtA/CtD/WtO theirs).
It's funny, but of the three major 'cyberpunk' (genre) games (Cyberpunk, Shadowrun, and GURPS Cyberpunk), CP2020 always felt like the game with the greatest... hope... for the individual. And the thing is, even as CP2077 tells us the next 5 decades just got worse... it still does.
It's funny, but of the three major 'cyberpunk' (genre) games (Cyberpunk, Shadowrun, and GURPS Cyberpunk), CP2020 always felt like the game with the greatest... hope... for the individual. And the thing is, even as CP2077 tells us the next 5 decades just got worse... it still does.
I spent 10 years with Cyberpunk 2020 starting with my introduction in 1990 via an older brother and his friends. It was fun times till everyone started going crazy with power creep.
I still have the same core book from then to held together with scotch tape and time. Passing on Red as I feel like 2020 is just right as is and I still remember(havn't forgiven) Cyberpunk V3 and the dolls.
I still have the same core book from then to held together with scotch tape and time. Passing on Red as I feel like 2020 is just right as is and I still remember
That's a strange question... What I mean is that in my mind it can be answered throught 2 questions :
- Are you a roleplayer ?
- Are you more than 35 years old ?
If both are answered by the affirmative, you can infer several suppositions,
such as, yes, they knew about games like Cyberpunk (Paranoia etc...)
If not, really it depends to chances (a playbook left by a big brother, some interrest into vintage rpgs etc...)
In my case, I am a french 38 years old who has grown into rpgs, and the question would feel kind of offensive
- Are you a roleplayer ?
- Are you more than 35 years old ?
If both are answered by the affirmative, you can infer several suppositions,
such as, yes, they knew about games like Cyberpunk (Paranoia etc...)
If not, really it depends to chances (a playbook left by a big brother, some interrest into vintage rpgs etc...)
In my case, I am a french 38 years old who has grown into rpgs, and the question would feel kind of offensive
I consider myself lucky to have had opportunity to play with the Cyberpunk 2020 too (among other rpgs) and I have the sourcebook in Hungarian language.
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No and I intentionally did not get myself acquainted with the system. Wanted to avoid thinking about discrepancies between the tabletop and the computer game all the time.
Even though I might be missing on a treasure trove of lore in the face of 2020, I still want 2077 to be the only Cyberpunk I know of.
Even though I might be missing on a treasure trove of lore in the face of 2020, I still want 2077 to be the only Cyberpunk I know of.
I'm kind of an expert in the lore, to the extent I cringe on most YT Lore Videos But still, the game is written in a way you don't need to know anything about the lore of 2020, RED and anything in between.
Having said that, it should be added that CP2077 is CDPR's vision and version of Mike Pondsmith's Cyberpunk. Being that it freely uses some aspects of the lore, adds some and retcons A LOT, to the point it takes place in the alternative universe to not only CP2020 but also RED and 2013. But the same is trute with Cyberpunk Red, that retcons so much from 2020 that is alternative universe, and 2020 that retcons a lot from 2013. Which I'm fine with because I do the same in my games.
However, I can't recomend enough to jump into the lore with the PnP game books, even those officialy set in alternate cyberpunk settings as Cyberpunk v3, Cybergeneration or Deep Space (which technically is not the alternative universe and was the attempt to move Cyberpunk into Spacepunk, but the cyberpunk went the IVth Corp War that didn't happen in Deep Space's 2025). It's all great read (even generaly loathed upon "V3").
Being familiar with the lore halps to get some easter eggs and to keep that feeling of excitement, waiting for another piece of lore, and to say "ha! I remember that!" or "Wait a minute, it didn't happen that way!" Its fun
Also, PnP game is fon, and I highly recomend, although the CP2020 is extremaly outdated and borderline unplayable for the new commers, and CP RED is a beautiful mess that, despite what people claim, had never been playtested in the slightest.
But still, the game is written in a way you don't need to know anything about the lore of 2020, RED and anything in between.Having said that, it should be added that CP2077 is CDPR's vision and version of Mike Pondsmith's Cyberpunk. Being that it freely uses some aspects of the lore, adds some and retcons A LOT, to the point it takes place in the alternative universe to not only CP2020 but also RED and 2013. But the same is trute with Cyberpunk Red, that retcons so much from 2020 that is alternative universe, and 2020 that retcons a lot from 2013. Which I'm fine with because I do the same in my games.
However, I can't recomend enough to jump into the lore with the PnP game books, even those officialy set in alternate cyberpunk settings as Cyberpunk v3, Cybergeneration or Deep Space (which technically is not the alternative universe and was the attempt to move Cyberpunk into Spacepunk, but the cyberpunk went the IVth Corp War that didn't happen in Deep Space's 2025). It's all great read (even generaly loathed upon "V3").
Being familiar with the lore halps to get some easter eggs and to keep that feeling of excitement, waiting for another piece of lore, and to say "ha! I remember that!" or "Wait a minute, it didn't happen that way!" Its fun
Also, PnP game is fon, and I highly recomend, although the CP2020 is extremaly outdated and borderline unplayable for the new commers, and CP RED is a beautiful mess that, despite what people claim, had never been playtested in the slightest.
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Damn. In pristine condition. I heve three copies, two in no condition to show around