What disappointed you about this game?

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The way they handled the Triss/Yennefer relationship.

It's too clear they favored Triss, if not because they forced her on you in the first two games, then because they thrust Triss and the deciding choice on you before you even get to say more than 5 sentences with Yen. They didn't give anyone who didn't read the books a chance to even get to know her before the decision was sprung on them. There wasn't enough time with Yen in the game.

I agree with this. I mean they could support polygamy after all the weird stuff they put in.

Also, I find that after I have completed the story a little disappointing, I feel little attachment/motivation to complete the quests (and contracts) I haven't done as there is no real sense of interaction with any of the characters. Unlike, when you interact with all the main characters during the main story. To expand the game world kind of feels empty without these characters and their interactions in it.


And I'm sure there will be (or is) a mod for this but it will kind of be nice to do whatever Geralt does at the end of the story (i.e. what the ending says) instead of just being able to do missions and contracts.
 
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You say the armours are all ugly, well take a look at actual medieval armours and clothing. All ugly. :p I actually prefer it this way. Feels a lot more believable and realistic.
 
end of geralt's story, but looks like is the prologue of ciri's

lol this I mean I liked her but the game focused way too much on her (even the endings are only about her)

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I had to skip most of this thread because it started feeling spoilerish with the Triss/Yen talk, but I have to say I hate threads like this. What disappointed us? This game is great, it is a great build on the previous two entries in the series. Where Witcher 2 was exponentially better than the first, so too is this game. There are a few things I wish were different, but why would we come here and complain? I just don't get the insistent whining and complaining on this game. If it was Dragon Age or Bioware--fine. I get it. That is a terrible company who continues to tank itself. That David Gaider guy? Total blowhard! But CDPR have been awesome to the fans, made a great game, and then the majority of threads have been non stop complaining. Do we create the Gaiders of the world? I mean, CDPR had the sincerity to not change things substantially lorewise game to game. Think of the Qunari for example. One game they're like big humans, the next they're horned demons. At least Zoltan stayed aesthetically similar throughout because there was a respect for the fans from the company.

I am not disappointed in this game. When did it come out? Last week? I've put in 40 hours on it. I've put in a full work week on it. My social life has suffered, I haven't seen the sunshine, and when I went to the park the other day, forcing myself to get out of here for some exercise, I went to the park map which is on a giant board and for a second thought I was searching for Witcher notices. This game is great.

It IS the greatest game ever. That isn't hyperbole. CDPR have been building to this for a long time, they've earned the right to hear it, and I hope one of devs browses through here and sees this. I'm going to go read my Witcher books because I'm afraid what will happen if I play any more of the game. I have to take a break. But I don't want to--it's a wonderful game, and I'm not disappointed. I'm disappointed other RPGs can't get it right like this one.

This is a discussion forum not a fanboy one sry, if you can't deal with it maybe stop coming here?
TW3 is a great game no doubt (definitely NOT the greatest game in my opinion) but it has numerous flaws that need to be brought out to attention
so CDPR does things better in the future (Save import as an example)
 
Major things that need to be fixed (imo)

1) Leveling system: way too much xp in main quests and almost nothing in secondary quests. Grey quests don't award xp. Overall, too much xp.

2) Difficulty Balance: even on death march, after some time, combat starts to become too easy due to OP skills and lack of better enemy AI. Suggest a new difficulty (Dark Mode), with Axii substantially nerfed (puppets don't 1-hit-kill every enemy, full consumption of stamina bar on use), Igni with less chance of burning, some alchemy skills nerfed. Some enemies (specially those that you fight most of the time) need better AI, more aggressive.

3) Game needs more quick slots. I suggest redesign radial menu. I think it would be great if we could have access to 3 potions and 3 bombs without having to access inventory. Those pocket items are of little to almost non use most of the game. In their place we could have more potions/bombs.

4) Inventory management: needs more categories (one tab only for alchemy and other only for books ). Filters please.

5 ) Item storage: needs to be implemented. I just don't want to be carrying all witcher sets and trophies everywhere I go. Vivaldi bank would be a great place to implement storage.

6) Quest design: we should have an option that disable those yellow circles in the minimap. We should only be directed to a general location and investigate the scene by ourselves. It`s very doable in the current state of the game. With more effort, some journal entries / dialogues could be enhanced to make more clear what place should we investigate. This would reduce even more the need of yellow markers on the map.

Minor things:

1) Geralt controls could be more responsive (especially in combat)

2) Roche (...)

3) DS4 full support and customization on PC. I would like to cast signs without having to open radial menu by just pressing/holding two buttons.

4) In the new difficulty (suggested above), if more quick-slots were mad available (also suggested above), inventory use during combat could be blocked.

5) Oils should have more charges in the begging of the game.

6) Vendors frequently disappear from my map.

7) We should be able to know which gwent players we have already played with. In Valen it`s quite easy to don't get lost. In Novigrad...

8) Instead of making a book an "item" it could be a codex entry (kind of). This way we would be able to track what we have already read and what we miss (and the inventory would be little less messy).

9) Trophies bonus could be better.

10) Mutagens variety and bonus could be better.

11) Armor design (especially light) could be better,

Super minor things

1) Too much loot. There is loot everywhere. You enter someone home, steal everything and they don't give a fuck. There is plants everywhere (and since alchemy system is totally different...). Enemies drops too much itens that, ultimately, you will sell. They could drop just money instead. Inventory would become kore clean.


That said, someone will say that I`m a hater of the game. No, i`m not. It`s one of the best games that a ever played.
These are just suggestions. I love CDPR because of their attention with fans. So, if there is a chance of some of the things above be implemented, I would be very happy.
If not, game is great anyway, and I will be playing it for a long long time.

Sorry for my english. Bye.
 
I feel like this thread will be 50% filled with people making complaints and 50% with people saying "What are you talking about!?!?!? Your complaint is totally invalid!!!"

Personally, I am already seeing a ton of things I disagree with. I guess that's subjectivity for you. The lesson learned is that not all complaints are an objective problem with the game.

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You say the armours are all ugly, well take a look at actual medieval armours and clothing. All ugly. :p I actually prefer it this way. Feels a lot more believable and realistic.
I was thinking that too! I think armor in Witcher 3 look great! There are armors from virtually every European style imagineable! It's a lot better than Witcher 2, where half the armors made you look like some kind of court jester.

The Witcher 2 also had a lot of NPCs walking around in full plate armor. Now THAT's unrealistic. In real life plate armor was extremely expensive. Kings could never afford to outfit their infantry in it. It was also extremely heavy, which is why knights rode horses. If a knight fell off his horse during battle he was screwed.
 
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I feel like this thread will be 50% filled with people making complaints and 50% with people saying "What are you talking about!?!?!? Your complaint is totally invalid!!!"

Sure it will. But I think that between terrible ideias, not so good ones, selfish complaints etc... some good ideas will always appear.
Maybe devs take them in consideration. Maybe future mods will address them.
Overall, I think it`s valid, as long as people respect other people opinions =p

Regards
 
The lack and dilution of romance scenes and possible love interests is a disappointment. CDPR did an outstanding job with the Elven bath romance in Witcher 2. Additionally, there should have been more romantic flings such as Var Attre's daughter or the herbalist or even the Bloody Baron's daughter. Other than that, the game needs an inventory storage, side quests need to give more experience points and the PC UI could be a bit better. Most importantly, let us have the chance to meet the characters we known and love after finishing the game. Yennefer, Zoltan, Dandelion and Ciri all vanished post-game. :(
 
While reading my complaints keep in my mind that I only mention the things I didn't like. 95% of the game was fantastic and Witcher 3 became my all time favorite game (I'm playing video games since about 18 years) There are some spoilers, you shouldn't read it if you didn't finish the game.

- game balance is pretty messed up. Playing on Death March the game becomes too easy after about 20-30 hours. Some skills(alchemy build, quen, igni, axii) are unbalanced, so is horse combat against humans. Being able to switch potions during combat in combination with some of the alchemy skills was a bad design decision.

- after the main story the main characters (Ciri, Triss, Yen) just disappear, what makes the world feel empty and hollow and kills any motivation to play further and do sidestuff.

- inventory is a mess. They should have added filters so sort it after weight, worth etc like in Witcher 2.

- onesided and flat portrayal of the Wild Hunt and a complete lack of interaction between Eredin and Geralt/Ciri. Eredin followed Geralt through the events of Witcher 1 and chased Ciri for more than 6 years and we didn't get any interaction with him outside of "I will kill you"? No conversation? Not even one sentence between Ciri and the elf, who made her life to hell during the last 6 years? They really dropped the ball with the Wild Hunt. I never had the impression they were more than just some "evil for the sake of being evil" And their King was just shallow. Especially as a book reader it breaks my heart thinking about the wasted potential.
And again (just like the assassin at the end of witcher 1) one important plot point of the previous game was not only not explained but completely ignored: Geralt's time as a Rider of The Wild Hunt.

- too much pointless fetch stuff (treasures) in the ocean around Skellige

- Witcher 2 choices have barely any effect. Some are even illogical. Thaler is alive even if we let him die in Witcher 1 for example.

- sex and romances (not Yen/Triss, though the Triss romance is also flawed) are underwhelming in quantity and quality. 3 romances outside of the main ones? in a 200 hours game? Really? Even Witcher 2, which was 40 hours long had more.
Let's not even talk about the quality. Except for Yennefer all have the same scenes and body models and they are toned down in comparison to witcher 2. (no full frontal nudty) The 16 hours of mo-cap was either bullshit or they cut pretty much everything. Nobody can tell me the recorded 16 hours, for maybe 1minute of unique scenes.
I have seen people being tortured, murdered, impaled, burned alive, decapitated and executed.Just skill the 5th row bomb skill in the alchemy tree and throw a bomb in a bandits camps. You will see body parts flying all over the screen. But god forbid i see people making love without weird camera angles (there was even a sex scene in full underwear....) i don't want porn or anything, just wished it was like in Witcher 2.
Don't want to accuse CDP being "politically correct" in general because there is still a lot of nudity, but still disappointing that while they made the game more violent and brutal in comparison to Witcher 1/2, they toned down the sex scenes. I always liked about the Witcher games, that they treatet both equally without the hypocrisy of the rest of the gaming industry. Especially because they always said they make game for adults and sex is a part of every adults life and they won't shy away from it. That can't be said anymyore imo.

- a lot of clipping issues and roach is buggy as hell while riding through uneven terrain

- I'm a bit disappointed by the daily routine of the npcs, because there is barely anything like this. I would say 95% of the npcs are just doing the same 20 seconds sequence over and over again. i understand they can't simulate a daily routine for every npc, but they could have made it for some main characters.
How awesome would it have been to run into Dandelion or Zoltan while running through Novigrad? Even Witcher 1 did it. Countless times I randomly run into Zoltan while doing quests in Vizima . In Witcher 3 they both just stand on the same spot the whole game.
Yesterday I searched for Rosa Var Attre (shitty move from you CDP to not make her romancable after teasing us through 2 whole quests), thought she has maybe a daily routine,searched in her house, in her garden even the whole goddam city for her, but nothing. She just magically disappeared after i did her quests. Really disappointing

- very little interaction with main characters outside of quests. Through the whole game Dandelion has I think 2 conversation options, Zoltan 1 , Ýen 3-4, Triss completely stops talking to Geralt after Novigrad, even Ciri has only 4-5. And it never changes. They really could have given us new conversation optionsafter certain events in the story.

- portrayal of politics is very mediocre. Both the Radovid vs Emhyr and the Skellige political plot are lacking. I couldn't believe the same people wrote the politics for Witcher 2 (which was a masterpiece in this regard) and Witcher 3.

That are all the complaints, which come to my mind. If there is more I will edit my post.
But again, overall it was a fantastic game. Especially the moments between Geralt and Ciri were some of the best gaming experiences I have ever had.
Thank you for that CDP.

Agree with everything writen here ^ pretty much my opinion too
 
- Making it a sequel to the books and not the first two games, why?. I have no problem with this beeing based on a book series, that just means there is a good foundation already laid out for lore and it is easier to build upon that. But the decisions from the first two games are just without effect. Also taking into consideration what happens to Geralt at the end of the first game, wouldn't he know as much as Ciri about the prophecy? Yet he fails to even mention it.

The story in general is good from a character point of view. Lots of rich dialogue, meaningful sidquests regarding those characters with great attention to detail and subtlety in the dialogue. But the main plot and the Wild Hunts motivations and execution is very poorly executed. I swear that i thought the Kaer Morhen bit was the end of the game and i was so psyched, and then it dragged on for another 10 hours with fetch quests and culminated in a lackluster battle with a conclusion that made no sense. The only reason i was invested here was thanks to the characters. Ciri, Yen, Triss and Zoltan kept me in the game at this point.

I will give massive credits to Bloody Baron questline though and it is one of the best i have played in my entire life.

- The Alchemy system is infuriating and way to mainstreamed. The upgrades revolve around making the potions last longer instead of giving it addtonal effects, make it abit more fleshed out. DA:I was really superior at that point. But the gathering for ingridients is way better in this game. Also using potions in battle instead of having the preparing/meditation mechanic be central felt abit cheap and lackluster. He is supposed to prepare before fighting the monster of a contract.

- The combat works pretty well in my opinion, it just lacks challenge and smarter enemies. As people have mentioned earlier that even on Death March this game becomes a cake-walk about 30 hours in. And some of the great boss battles in this game was neither challenging or interesting.

- The abilities and mutagens are also abit lackluster resulting in mostly passive effects which just give that feeling of cookie cutter builds. The mmo feeling. Also having to equip abilities and passives have to be equipped? Even DA:I let passives be passives. All the mutagens are just more sign intensity, more attack power or vitality. I feel like the talent tree path of the second game was much more interesting and really required some exploration of the different paths, here they just meld together into poor design.

- The trophies aswell amount to the same thing. You would think slaying one of the tougher monsters in the game would give you an unique trophy and not the same static as other beasts of its kind.

- The UI is fine, but the inventory/crafting system is horrible, atleast with a mouse and keyboard. To much scrolling and usorted ways to line up what you can and can't craft. Also binding backspace to enter this menu? Haven't found a way to change that either. Going from menu to menu with keyboard and mouse navigating is also abit clonky, same as for leaving th menu and get back to the game.

It would be better to have the solution from the first game here and the same as Dragon Age Origins. When you enter the menu you can still see the characters and the world around you. Having a full screen covering your character is a bad idea. Same with not beeing able to view Geralt in the inventory system, how he would look with certain armors. I am guessing this is inspired by console and the use of a controller, same as with DA:I.

I guess that is it. If it seems like i am complaining to much, then tough luck. I love this game, i really do. It hit alot of emotional spots for me and i got the feels time and time again. But there are so many things that keep it from becoming one of the best games ever made. To me design choices matter alot and they say something about the team. No game is perfect, and everything has flaws. Still there is some things here i just can't overlook and those things detract from my enjoyment of the game. Some of the stuff in this post probably would have been better in its own topic, but i was on a rant anyway. So here goes.

There are bound to be errors in the spelling and people not understanding what i mean, at all. Well i am not a native English speaker.
 
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I had to skip most of this thread because it started feeling spoilerish with the Triss/Yen talk, but I have to say I hate threads like this. What disappointed us? This game is great, it is a great build on the previous two entries in the series. Where Witcher 2 was exponentially better than the first, so too is this game. There are a few things I wish were different, but why would we come here and complain? I just don't get the insistent whining and complaining on this game. If it was Dragon Age or Bioware--fine. I get it. That is a terrible company who continues to tank itself. That David Gaider guy? Total blowhard! But CDPR have been awesome to the fans, made a great game, and then the majority of threads have been non stop complaining. Do we create the Gaiders of the world? I mean, CDPR had the sincerity to not change things substantially lorewise game to game. Think of the Qunari for example. One game they're like big humans, the next they're horned demons. At least Zoltan stayed aesthetically similar throughout because there was a respect for the fans from the company.

I am not disappointed in this game. When did it come out? Last week? I've put in 40 hours on it. I've put in a full work week on it. My social life has suffered, I haven't seen the sunshine, and when I went to the park the other day, forcing myself to get out of here for some exercise, I went to the park map which is on a giant board and for a second thought I was searching for Witcher notices. This game is great.

It IS the greatest game ever. That isn't hyperbole. CDPR have been building to this for a long time, they've earned the right to hear it, and I hope one of devs browses through here and sees this. I'm going to go read my Witcher books because I'm afraid what will happen if I play any more of the game. I have to take a break. But I don't want to--it's a wonderful game, and I'm not disappointed. I'm disappointed other RPGs can't get it right like this one.
This is such a toxic attitude to have towards the game, and it makes you a very bad consumer. Refusing to offer criticism because you feel bad for the company is pathetic. The is varying degrees of good or varying degrees of bad. If the consumer (who has paid hard-earned money for the game) is not willing to admit the faults of the product, the product doesn't get better plain and simple. You think you are being kind, in fact you are doing a disservice to CDPR and the industry by extension.

To act as if it is an infallible fact that Witcher 3 is the best game ever made is such a ridiculous claim and shows how much a fanboy you are. There are problems with every game - this one included. In fifty years, this is not the game that people will remember the Witcher Series for. It will be Assassin's of Kings.
 
what i liked:

Bloody Baron questline was perfect, Kira was perfect too and i think they nailed sigi perfectly. also i think they did a good job on yennefer. i didnt liked her in the books and i actually do not like her in the game. I liked the last wish solution. and a highlight for me is the soundtrack and the soundeffects (like the trees etc). I also liked the battle in the witcher fortress.

I have no problem with the battlesystem, skillsystem or inventory. I liked the armor too, would have prefered some more witcher armor.

My personal dissapointments:

no closure to friends, longtime allies etc. it is the last game in the series and i felt like i couldnt say goodbye. i am still pissed that some ppl get a reference to iorveth and i run between 3 squirrel locations for hours just to hear them talk about the weather. i miss elfs, i found avallach bland and uninteresting and miss my w2 bro. I do liked the kalkstein reference though. I would have liked it to hear a little bit more about the political and war situation. the ambassador could have had regular updates. I disliked highly that i constantly got pushed to yen, even though i already commited and locked in the romance with triss (didnt even got the option to have the 2nd sexscene with yen), last one is i felt the ending was rushed and i am not so sure what ciri actually did in the tower. but i asume she defeted the white frost.
 
Disappointed at how save import doesn't matter which led to annoying inconsistencies, and the lack of sexual encounters. Other than that, I love the game and it's absolutely amazing for an open world game, might not be the best Witcher game but it's so much better than many games I played in recent years. CDPR could have done it better but I think they did their best, I'm looking forward to future expansions and new contents.
 
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This is such a toxic attitude to have towards the game, and it makes you a very bad consumer. Refusing to offer criticism because you feel bad for the company is pathetic. The is varying degrees of good or varying degrees of bad. If the consumer (who has paid hard-earned money for the game) is not willing to admit the faults of the product, the product doesn't get better plain and simple. You think you are being kind, in fact you are doing a disservice to CDPR and the industry by extension.

To act as if it is an infallible fact that Witcher 3 is the best game ever made is such a ridiculous claim and shows how much a fanboy you are. There are problems with every game - this one included. In fifty years, this is not the game that people will remember the Witcher Series for. It will be Assassin's of Kings.

Well...it is the best game ever made, and I don't feel it is the best game because I feel bad for the company, I feel bad for the company because they made the best game and people still complain. You have it backwards. It is phenomenal. I can't see how that's toxic to love this the most, but then, the market today is filled with critics who have it figured out I suppose.
 
lol this I mean I liked her but the game focused way too much on her (even the endings are only about her)

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This is a discussion forum not a fanboy one sry, if you can't deal with it maybe stop coming here?
TW3 is a great game no doubt (definitely NOT the greatest game in my opinion) but it has numerous flaws that need to be brought out to attention
so CDPR does things better in the future (Save import as an example)

What's wrong with the save import? I had no trouble with it. In the Witcher 1 or 2. I would imagine those things progress and continue to get better. Witcher 1 to 2 was minimal, the import was better from 2 to 3, so I would think they would continue to improve on this front. And the CDProjektred website isn't for the fans? Where am I to go to express my love and admiration of the game then? Which website would that be, my friend? I would think I could come here and drop my two cents and say this incessant whining is too much. The Steam forums might be a better place to whine and complain?

It is the title of this thread, the attitude of it that is the problem. Disappointment--what is wrong. Not what can be improved. A lot of improvements could be patched. Storage can be patched in. Leveling can be tweaked and rebalanced. The gray quest issue may be fixed, right? Those things should be brought up as improvements, not complaining and disappointments. Not, "ugh, they got it wrong! They are really starting to suck!" This game has been plagued by anger since before it came out. Can't figure out why.
 
Well...it is the best game ever made, and I don't feel it is the best game because I feel bad for the company, I feel bad for the company because they made the best game and people still complain. You have it backwards. It is phenomenal. I can't see how that's toxic to love this the most, but then, the market today is filled with critics who have it figured out I suppose.

You are confusing something here you think its the best game ever thats not a fact
I think its a good game but far from perfect
 
Well...it is the best game ever made, and I don't feel it is the best game because I feel bad for the company, I feel bad for the company because they made the best game and people still complain. You have it backwards. It is phenomenal. I can't see how that's toxic to love this the most, but then, the market today is filled with critics who have it figured out I suppose.
Saying its the best game because its the best game is the logical justification I'd expect from a five year old child. That you are so blinded that you can't find fault with the game does not mean others are beholden to your ignorance. Criticism about any game, even the best one is both legitimate, warranted and should be welcome as any mature individual will take criticism and learn from it. You clearly are at a young age in your life where criticism is an attack and voicing disappointment is trying to debase the developer.

It's not toxic that you love the game. It's toxic that you think it's beyond critique.
 
Saying its the best game because its the best game is the logical justification I'd expect from a five year old child. That you are so blinded that you can't find fault with the game does not mean others are beholden to your ignorance. Criticism about any game, even the best one is both legitimate, warranted and should be welcome as any mature individual will take criticism and learn from it. You clearly are at a young age in your life where criticism is an attack and voicing disappointment is trying to debase the developer.

It's not toxic that you love the game. It's toxic that you think it's beyond critique.

Perhaps your blind hatred deterred you from seeing my logical justification of why I think it is the best game? Go back and read it again, and report to me your findings.
 
Well...it is the best game ever made, and I don't feel it is the best game because I feel bad for the company, I feel bad for the company because they made the best game and people still complain. You have it backwards. It is phenomenal. I can't see how that's toxic to love this the most, but then, the market today is filled with critics who have it figured out I suppose.

This is one of my favourite games ever, but that doesn't mean I was happy with everything about it. There's a lot of refinement that can be done with UI, gameplay mechanics, character development, the story and, in particular, the epilogue.

Having these criticisms, however, does not mean I am hating the on the game or on CDPR. Just to be clear, I love what they have done, but there is no such thing as perfection, especially since beauty is in the eye of the beholder. You can't please everyone either but squashing heartfelt feedback is not constructive. Everyone has their own opinion and CDPR will be the judge as to what they feel is important because this is their creative work we're talking about.

It's impossible to avoid emotional posting with a game built on two previous games and multiple books, which pushes us to grow attached. Those emotions often make it difficult to be objective, but there is always grains of truth no matter what, even if it can get extremely difficult to spot if people get carried away.
 
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