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What happened to TW2's outstanding armor design?

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goopit

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#21
Mar 2, 2013
Volsung said:
Geralt is described as wearing a Kaftan: a long tunic with sleeves, worn with a belt. Why can't he wear normal leather witcher armor and put on his damn coat if he gets cold in Skellige?

The guy on the far left is wearing a Kaftan.
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The looks really lame lol



this'd be better on Geralt. It could be stored on his horse and he'd have on option to wear it in the horse inventory menu thing. We already see Ciri wearing something similar so why not Geralt as well? It might even be a way to hide your identity since that white hair really stands out.

Can you see Geralt swinging his sword while wearing this with full clothing physics! that'd be fucking awesome.
 
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volsung

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#22
Mar 2, 2013
Well of course that kaftan looks silly, it's a picture from 1910 and it is an old guy. As I said, a kaftan is a kind of long coat, with long sleeves, worn with a belt. It is actually what Geralt wears. They could just make it look "cooler" if you will, like some kind of slavic/eastern european design.
 
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goopit

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#23
Mar 2, 2013
Volsung said:
Well of course that kaftan looks silly, it's a picture from 1910 and it is an old guy. As I said, a kaftan is a kind of long coat, with long sleeves, worn with a belt. It is actually what Geralt wears. They could just make it look "cooler" if you will, like some kind of slavic/eastern european design.
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He did wear a coat in the Reason of State comic



I still don't think it suits him. He looks like one of the Thalmor in Skyrim which really puts me off. A cloak would still be much better.
 
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Glaroug.531

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#24
Mar 2, 2013
I still don't think it suits him. He looks like one of the Thalmor in Skyrim
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Yikes! Forgot about them. Guess that was a plot line hat never saw the light day...but that's an another story...

A toggle-able hood would be cool, like Blothulfur suggested. It worked for Bilbo and Company. However, I'd hate to be the poor fool who had to animate cloak combat without it flying all over the place. I suppose you could argue they did it in Batman though, but it seems the Witcher would be a whole 'nother can o'beans.

While we are on the subject of coats and jerkins, here's a cool exert:

Later, people said that the stranger came from the north, through the Ropers’
Gate. He came on foot, leading a heavily laden horse by the bridle. It was late
in the day; the stalls of the ropers and saddlers were closed, and the street
was empty. Although it was hot, the man had a black coat thrown over his
shoulders. He drew attention.

The stranger wasn’t old, yet his hair was almost completely white. Under his
coat he wore a worn leather jerkin with ties at the neck and shoulders. When
he removed his coat, everyone saw the sword belted behind his back. There
was nothing remarkable in that; in Vizima almost everyone went armed; but no
one carried his sword behind him like a bow or quiver.
 
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avydia1.388

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#25
Mar 2, 2013
I completely agree with the thread opener...
 

Agent_Blue

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#26
Mar 2, 2013
Well, count me out.


While I certainly appreciate TW2 art direction when it came to armour, I do like horned helmets, these in particular, and chain armour is no eyesore to me. I say feed historical fidelity to the hounds, as long as the armour looks functional, coherent and great.

Bear in mind we've been shown what I'd deem an extremely limited sample of armours.
 
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Georgie_Porgie

Senior user
#27
Mar 2, 2013
There problem is people have different tastes and its very hard to have them all satisfied. I personally couldn't stand most of TW2 armor designs, they looked too fancy for my taste. Metal and chains that I see now look like something that gives you real protection
 
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vongraudenz

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#28
Mar 2, 2013
Allowing Geralt to wear something other leather armour isn't necessarily a bad thing. Giving him some chain mail, or some plate armour greaves, and breastplate would not be entirely outside the realm of credibility in the Witcher's world. Now full suit of plate would be bit much, but others around him could certainly wear it.
 
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secondchildren

Forum veteran
#29
Mar 2, 2013
It's the catsuit-chainmail that bothers me mostly. Realism=0

But 'twas the same with some of W2 armor


Hmm...
 
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goopit

Forum veteran
#30
Mar 2, 2013
secondchildren said:
It's the catsuit-chainmail that bothers me mostly. Realism=0

But 'twas the same with some of W2 armor

Hmm...
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Coral Reef armor
 
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AhmadMetallic

Rookie
#31
Mar 2, 2013
I'm not even remotely seasoned with the lore and "realism" within the Witcher universe so I can't speak there, but surely the Witcher 3 will not disappoint.

And then I think of the horned helmets and blame Skyrim in my head. God damn it.
 
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eglard

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#32
Mar 2, 2013
Realism with armours is never a bad thing. However I don't think that many of the armours shown in TW2 were realistic (at least the ones Geralts wore). Tw1 armours were a lot better.

Another point I would want to make is that chain mail is very flexible. If you got the stamina to wear it ( it weights a bit more than plate) it will be much better thab anything else. Plate gearves on the other hand are clearly the best choice in terma of protection and lightness.

That said the TW3 armours do not look like historical ones. Might be good/bad we'll see.
 
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Daywalker30

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#33
Mar 3, 2013
Eglard said:
Tw1 armours were a lot better.
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TW1 barely had any armor, at most 3 armors and one of it as 3 tiny different variations (Raven Armor) which looked basically the same. It doesn't look more realistic than the TW2 armors.
 
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Cs__sz__r

Rookie
#34
Mar 3, 2013
Me personally, I thought some of the armours in the W2 were meh, but it was more choice than the first. What I've seen so far I'm not crazy about, especially mail on Geralt, but we have only seen a few of them. As for the horned helmets it doesn't bother me, but if they really wanted to go cool and historical they should do winged helmets.
 
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SystemShock7

Senior user
#35
Mar 4, 2013


 
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Mihura

Senior user
#36
Mar 4, 2013
SystemShock7 said:


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Can you give a link to that image? yes Viking and Celts have some helmets with horns but it nothing like what they show on the images. I understand why people do not want to see that, it is a more mainstream look that maybe it should be avoid.
 

Agent_Blue

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#37
Mar 4, 2013
Mihura said:
Can you give a link to that image? yes Viking and Celts have some helmets with horns but it nothing like what they show on the images. I understand why people do not want to see that, it is a more mainstream look that maybe it should be avoid.
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Just to understand your point of view, what's bothering you, the fact you don't seem to like the horned design or that you think it's historically inaccurate?

Personally, as long as armour looks functional, looks coherent with the overall aesthetics of the culture and looks good, I demand no historical accuracy from it.
 
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Kodaemon5924

Forum veteran
#38
Mar 4, 2013
How the hell does historical accuracy even enter the picture considering we're talking about a game that's not set in a historical setting?
 
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Mihura

Senior user
#39
Mar 4, 2013
I already said that I have no problem with hornet helmets because this is fantastic world but I understand why people would not want to see it but I am ok with it either way really. Although I would prefer other design to the horns.
 
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Demut

Banned
#40
Mar 4, 2013
The problem with horned helmets is not the fact that they didn’t exist in our world (outside of rituals) but the fact that they are a horrible disadvantage on helmets. Have you never asked yourselves why there were no horned helmets? I mean they do look pretty cool. But you see, while that’s true it is also undeniable that they’d be a real danger to the wearer. You see, helmets are rounded for a reason. They are supposed to deflect incoming blows so that their force glances off and doesn’t hit them head-on. Horns prevent that.

Best case scenario: You lose your helmet (or at least a horn) as soon as the first strike to your head hits it and rips it off your head.
Word case scenario: You don’t lose your helmet (maybe because you fastened it to your chin) and instead have your head violently pulled down by the strike, possibly losing your balance, falling to the ground and now being as good as dead.

For that reason it would be really, really stupid of CDPR to keep them in the game because it does a huge disservice to the plausibility of the witcher’s world.
 
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