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angrymonkeyllama

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May 4, 2015
What is the specific reason you love the witcher?

What is the specific reason you love the witcher? you can be a fan of the books or the games i just want to know why also i love the games
 
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GuyNwah

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#2
May 4, 2015
Raymond Chandler could have been writing about Geralt,

"...down these mean streets a man must go who is not himself mean, who is neither tarnished nor afraid. He is the hero; he is everything. He must be a complete man and a common man and yet an unusual man. He must be, to use a rather weathered phrase, a man of honor—by instinct, by inevitability, without thought of it, and certainly without saying it. He must be the best man in his world and a good enough man for any world.

He will take no man’s money dishonestly and no man’s insolence without a due and dispassionate revenge. He is a lonely man and his pride is that you will treat him as a proud man or be very sorry you ever saw him.

The story is this man’s adventure in search of a hidden truth, and it would be no adventure if it did not happen to a man fit for adventure. If there were enough like him, the world would be a very safe place to live in, without becoming too dull to be worth living in."

["The Simple Art of Murder"]
 
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Sardukhar

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May 4, 2015
What Guy said. Or, rather, what Chandler said. Geralt is the closest thing to a hard-bitten-yet-still-true private investigator in the fantasy setting I've come across, a Spenser with a Sword. Imperfect yet complete, admirable without being unflawed. He also does exciting things in a dangerous world, is marked by them and in turn, leaves an impression.

The witcher setting is that muddy, sharp and alive setting you hope for when you pick up a book, the kind of world that feels like our own, just next door.
 
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May 4, 2015
angrymonkeyllama said:
What is the specific reason you love the witcher?
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T&A






...er, Taxonomy and Alchemy, that is
 
Riven-Twain

Riven-Twain

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May 4, 2015
angrymonkeyllama said:
What is the specific reason you love the witcher? you can be a fan of the books or the games i just want to know why also i love the games
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I have arrived at the following opinions from playing the games -- at least, how I played them -- and from the first couple books, so far, as I have not yet read further.
I study myths, romances, and legends of the entire Middle Ages, but specifically, the figure of the Hero; as such, I have a somewhat peculiar perspective on heroes and monsters, as a group. I like the quotation @GuyNwah offered, because it reflects some of my own ideas about the Witcher. I recognise in him an image of the Hero: the Hero who acts at the inner promptings of his conscience to do good, despite outward temptations not to. He bears the Hero's burden: great power, and the responsibility to use it wisely. He is charged to defend Humanity from monsters, but, like the humans he must defend, he is rather a monster himself, only more so. Heroes and monsters both inhabit a weird, grotesque, realm, upon the periphery of human society, wherein they must both remain, and only intrude into the human world when they are needed most, to render service. I believe the tale of the Witcher conveys this kinship rather well. He is no paragon of virtue -- by religious standards, or idealised notions of a saviour -- and possesses quite a few daemons of his own, but is able to act virtuously, in spite of them, for a higher good. The concept of a tainted hero appeals to many people, to-day, as it rejects the more saintly, Galahad-like concepts of such defenders -- which were formulated in the last couple centuries -- and presumes to portray a more 'real', multidimensional, deeper, hero. (In my studies, however, I've found that not all 'knights in shining armour' were as boringly straight-forward as modern simplifications of the past would have us believe.) I also enjoy the references to traditional folklore, and legend, which appear throughout The Witcher series, very much, and how they are creatively adapted and employed to tell the stories.
 
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braindancer12

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May 4, 2015
Sardukhar said:
What Guy said. Or, rather, what Chandler said. Geralt is the closest thing to a hard-bitten-yet-still-true private investigator in the fantasy setting I've come across, a Spenser with a Sword. Imperfect yet complete, admirable without being unflawed. He also does exciting things in a dangerous world, is marked by them and in turn, leaves an impression.

The witcher setting is that muddy, sharp and alive setting you hope for when you pick up a book, the kind of world that feels like our own, just next door.
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pretty good sum up
 
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Mow2345

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May 4, 2015
GuyNwah said:
Raymond Chandler could have been writing about Geralt,

"...down these mean streets a man must go who is not himself mean, who is neither tarnished nor afraid. He is the hero; he is everything. He must be a complete man and a common man and yet an unusual man. He must be, to use a rather weathered phrase, a man of honor—by instinct, by inevitability, without thought of it, and certainly without saying it. He must be the best man in his world and a good enough man for any world.

He will take no man’s money dishonestly and no man’s insolence without a due and dispassionate revenge. He is a lonely man and his pride is that you will treat him as a proud man or be very sorry you ever saw him.

The story is this man’s adventure in search of a hidden truth, and it would be no adventure if it did not happen to a man fit for adventure. If there were enough like him, the world would be a very safe place to live in, without becoming too dull to be worth living in."

["The Simple Art of Murder"]
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Wow. Love this Mister @GuyNwah

To answer the question shortly : Geralt/Yennefer's relationship
Not short? Geralt loneliness in the the world and his interaction with it. See him evolve to something more than a monster killer interested in coins ( the first story with Foltest and the Stryga ) is just a treat.
 
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wichat

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May 4, 2015
Because it's the fantasy world more human and real than I could find.
 
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GuyNwah

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May 4, 2015
As hard-boiled heroes go, Geralt is to me more like Hammett's "Continental Op" than Sam Spade or Philip Marlowe. Allowing for the difference that the Op works for an agency, while Geralt is independent, they have in common the fear that they are in danger of losing what remains of their humanity. "Play with murder enough and it gets you one of two ways. It makes you sick, or you get to like it." [Red Harvest]
 
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wichat

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May 4, 2015
We are all Geralt inner. We hire our skills what we have trained for since childhood. We haven't chosen how we start in this live but we want change it. We don't dare until we find that special person who is our most opposite half orange, nothing is free, life give us poisoned gifts which sometimes we accept dispite the risks. And suddenly our live has sense, maybe is not happy or beautiful but it has sense.

All we are mutants as long we are all differents.
 
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Tjerra

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May 4, 2015
'Cause it's Polish.

I mean, I could list a whole bunch of other reasons like it's a believable medieval fantasy world I love to explore (by reading and playing), I'm interested in mythology and especially in slavic mythology and I'm grown to love the characters, I wouldn't miss them. It's language practice for me, in different ways, while doing something pleasant instead of cramming grammar and stuff.

But above all, it's the way I came to the Witcher series, and how it's connected with specific memories. Call me sentimental, but in the same year I was brought to the Witcher series by a proud Polish friend, I discovered lots of other great things, I learned how to deal with myself, was taught a foreign language and lifestyle and met most of my current close friends. It was a great and a tough time, and I had moments when I didn't know why I was doing all these things (throughout that year as well as after).
All in all, the whole Witcher thing kind of saved me when it was hardest (after coming back), among with other stuff. It was a world I could immerse myself in while remembering, and additionally forget about other things. It keeped me interested and busy. And it taught me a way to see the course of life: Something ends, something begins.
 
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Sephira

Sephira

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May 4, 2015
Well... Character development and emotional impact. I think that these aspects are so well done that you can actually grow fond of the characters, laugh, joke, cry with them. You learn to know them properly. That's why I felt like if a dear friend left and moved for another country when I finished reading the books.

Second reason is an overall irony pervading all the books, it's so subtle yet so strong.

I don't know. It's just something more.
 
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angrymonkeyllama

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May 4, 2015
Sephira said:
Well... Character development and emotional impact. I think that these aspects are so well done that you can actually grow fond of the characters, laugh, joke, cry with them. You learn to know them properly. That's why I felt like if a dear friend left and moved for another country when I finished reading the books.

Second reason is an overall irony pervading all the books, it's so subtle yet so strong.

I don't know. It's just something more.
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all the way from italy awesome i am from the U.S.A. also it wouldn't also have to be Geralt being a ladies man atleast for female readers i mean?
 
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TheGayWitcher

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May 5, 2015
Dark fantasy setting with lots of monster slaying... that was all I needed to get hooked at first (just the games - I haven't yet gotten around to reading the books). I'm not crazy about the characters or even the game storyline(s), but the world is just awesome...
 
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MikeP999

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#15
May 5, 2015
It's a Role Playing Game with swords and sorcery. That's usually enough to peek my interest.
My first RPG on an IBM PC was King's Quest.. Good fun - I think there was a sword in there too ;)
 
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shinobi2u

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#16
May 5, 2015
I've always been a sucker for fantasy, but as I've grown up, my desire for a more grown up fantasy increases as well. Witcher blurs the lines between reality and fantasy in many ways. Sapkowski crafted a unique world, one that relies on established (as well as created) myths, but turning it into something new or putting a twist on it.

Now follow that up with strong characters, both in books and games, who are very unique, but have a sense of realism behind them. They are written to have depth and flaws, and have to deal with consequences from them as well as grow as they do, which make them more interesting and more relatable. It's dark, filled with death and sex, but handled well and in a believable manner that again increases that sense of humanity, but it also has a lot of gray with the question of morals and character being a big part of the story.

It also contains a very epic quest spanning years with the characters weaving in and out of each others' stories, building upon each other and scenes that stick with you long after. CDPR did an excellent job translating this into the games, providing a robust platform in which to 'live out' the next part of Geralt's adventures. It lets you feel like you are part of something grand - and that's some of role playing at its finest.
 
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angrymonkeyllama

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May 6, 2015
shinobi2u said:
I've always been a sucker for fantasy, but as I've grown up, my desire for a more grown up fantasy increases as well. Witcher blurs the lines between reality and fantasy in many ways. Sapkowski crafted a unique world, one that relies on established (as well as created) myths, but turning it into something new or putting a twist on it.

Now follow that up with strong characters, both in books and games, who are very unique, but have a sense of realism behind them. They are written to have depth and flaws, and have to deal with consequences from them as well as grow as they do, which make them more interesting and more relatable. It's dark, filled with death and sex, but handled well and in a believable manner that again increases that sense of humanity, but it also has a lot of gray with the question of morals and character being a big part of the story.

It also contains a very epic quest spanning years with the characters weaving in and out of each others' stories, building upon each other and scenes that stick with you long after. CDPR did an excellent job translating this into the games, providing a robust platform in which to 'live out' the next part of Geralt's adventures. It lets you feel like you are part of something grand - and that's some of role playing at its finest.
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i agree with everything except the sexual part Geralt has sex either paid or withy someone he did battle withand if that doesn't forge a sexual relationship i don't know what will look at the real world and soldiers from Vietnam and the iraq war they met some of there significant others either in the military or the place they are fighting or at a bar which i common but rare so i guess i agree about the sex thing all i am saying its a matter of circumstance
 
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Wolfehunter

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May 6, 2015
I'm a fan of mythical worlds. I like good stories.. Witcher is a good story. :)
 
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White_Wolf77

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#19
May 7, 2015
GuyNwah said:
Raymond Chandler could have been writing about Geralt,

"...down these mean streets a man must go who is not himself mean, who is neither tarnished nor afraid. He is the hero; he is everything. He must be a complete man and a common man and yet an unusual man. He must be, to use a rather weathered phrase, a man of honor—by instinct, by inevitability, without thought of it, and certainly without saying it. He must be the best man in his world and a good enough man for any world.

He will take no man’s money dishonestly and no man’s insolence without a due and dispassionate revenge. He is a lonely man and his pride is that you will treat him as a proud man or be very sorry you ever saw him.

The story is this man’s adventure in search of a hidden truth, and it would be no adventure if it did not happen to a man fit for adventure. If there were enough like him, the world would be a very safe place to live in, without becoming too dull to be worth living in."

["The Simple Art of Murder"]
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I think Guy sums it up for me pretty nicely on why I love the Witcher
 
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skeletorey

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#20
May 11, 2015
The atmosphere, no other game to me feels like a lived in place. The environments, the characters, the costumes all drip with awesomeness.
 
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