What weapons do you want to see in the game?

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[chriswebb2020.736]

Cannot remember the comments, when I get out of work, will try to copy them over to this thread.

Flipboard is only on the evil Apple products I'm afraid

Cheers.

And thats a shame, I refuse to be an Iwhore.

 

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.Patrick Tinne So in 2023 we're still using eotechs?Like · Reply · 6 · 7 hours ago via mobile..Gear Whores Anonymous especially old ass modelsLike · 4 · 6 hours ago..
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.Matthew Bacon Szucs HK, how many drinks did you have to end up with that slut Kriss again?Like · Reply · 7 · 7 hours ago via mobile..Owen Overkill Martin The Xbox playing kid who made this graphic does not guns very hard at all. How does the piston system engage? Kriss bolt is blow back, are you supposed to extract the bolt from your leg and reinsert after the 6.8spc blowback shoots it out the bottom of the rifle? 0/10 would not operate with, because its videogame nonsenseLike · Reply · 5 · 6 hours ago..Jordan Buechler Maybe it's just a kid with an imagination making a picture...Like · Reply · 2 · 7 hours ago via mobile..Duke Nguyen no... what we need is storm boltersLike · Reply · 3 · 7 hours ago via mobile..Sage Buzzini HK boss: "gents i present to you the g56"

sensible guy in conference room: " but sir, this just looks like a Vector mixed with a masada, an sr-25 and a 416"

HK boss: "SILENCE!, this is the FUTURE"Like · Reply · 2 · 3 hours ago..Michael Woolridge I hope H&K is ready for the pounding KRISS USA would give them for violating their patents. Whoever made this image is an idiot.Like · Reply · 1 · 7 hours ago..Martin Lobrigo Ian SuperSmooth AbionLike · Reply · 5 hours ago..Christopher Minguez Have to say I was more interested in this link on that page : http://youtu.be/_rleLACTTGI
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The Bow-Mag by Rac-Em-Bac is a cutting edge arrowhead casing that allows the hun...ter to place a .38 or .357 Magnum round inside. Simply secure your ammunition...See more.Like · Reply · 6 hours ago · Edited..Christopher Minguez I damn well hope in ten years people will have stopped sackriding HK.Like · Reply · 6 hours ago..Jared Hafich M68 Aimpoints do act as great sniper optics...Like · Reply · 1 · 6 hours ago..Dima Khalimovskyy said no one everLike · 5 hours ago..
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.Tyler Hooker looks heavy as shitLike · Reply · 6 hours ago..Maximilian Youell i sincerely hope that we have better optics. by 2023 lolLike · Reply · 1 · 7 hours ago via mobile..Branson Eber Yeah that's not a spinoff of a Kriss Super V or anything lmaoLike · Reply · 1 · 7 hours ago via mobile..Mason Follansbee Terrible, and it doesn't help that I hate the Kriss anyways.Like · Reply · 2 · 6 hours ago..João Pinto I see bits of HK, Kriss, FNH and Magpul (ACR stock), so it's not a design thing, it's a glue on the pieces thing... Oh and the blowback system blows (pun intended)...Like · Reply · about an hour ago..Maciej Pacek still 47 betterLike · Reply · 2 hours ago..Thomas Machina The vector mechanism is not such a bad idea, I'm just waiting for them to team up with Berret or CheyTacLike · Reply · 3 hours ago via mobile..Thomas Spinner pimp my gun power.?Like · Reply · 3 hours ago..Trevor J Houraney 416 + Vector = HK56?Like · Reply · 4 hours ago via mobile..Hunter LaPointe This is Soooo retarded!!!!Like · Reply · 5 hours ago..Scott Liddle Duke already won this threadLike · Reply · 5 hours ago via mobile..Alex Quinby CaselessLike · Reply · 6 hours ago via mobile..AngelShogun Mitsukai Sosa No.Like · Reply · 6 hours ago via mobile..Brian Christopher McKenna God I hate the vectorLike · Reply · 6 hours ago via mobile..Jacob Adams Jordan, could you have interjected a little more gay?Like · Reply · 7 hours ago via mobile..Jacob Adams Also the 7.62x51 round would be better. The whole point of the Kriss system is to deliver the hardest hit possible in a useable package.Like · Reply · 7 hours ago via mobile..Jacob Adams The artist has a good idea. Maybe stiffer dual recoil springs and a hydraulic buffer?Like · Reply · 7 hours ago via mobile..Jacob Adams Instead of saying this couldn't work. Ask how can we make it work.Like · Reply · 7 hours ago via mobile..Clark James Apusen That's if they get their financial issues resolvedLike · Reply · 7 hours ago..William Steven McCaine VI In the future they need some frequency cancelling device built into the rifles.. oscillates at whatever hertz needed to , to reduce felt recoil.. Turn a .50cal into a felt .22

I need to get back to school.Like · Reply · 7 hours ago..Paul Michael Van Langen NoLike · Reply · 7 hours ago via mobile..Nathan Tynes Lol. No. AR gang or die.Like · Reply · 7 hours ago..Ser Ian St-Pierre 2023 my ass, make it happen nowLike · Reply · 7 hours ago..Corey Saltsider looks reliable....lulLike · Reply · 7 hours ago..Dima Khalimovskyy We call this a Kriss super v mock-upLike · Reply · 5 hours ago..Skunk Works Looks to me like a KRISS with HK bits bolted to it. But that's just me ...Like · Reply · 1 · 7 hours ago via mobile..Markius Fox In reality, the ejection port is WAY too small, the magazine is too straight to feed reliably and the magazine release is small and out of place.

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[blank_redge]

Yeah, other than the fact Turkey never ever ever ever had deserts like that, or camels, or women who is covered like that, or all that many mosque's, or talking&walking ducks or pigs.. Oh yeah.. (And no, Ottoman empire didn't have any of those either. Since most of the emperors/ sultans, whatever you call them were bunch happy drunks. They had a taste for fine vines.. I can tell you that much.. Me? I rather have a beer or vodka instead. But i appreciate the vine.. Yes sir.) Thats a complete picture of arabia, with Istanbul name slapped on it. I should be offended or something.... Nah..

...Interesting!

I was mostly posting the video for the silly They Might Be Giants song. Never occurred to me that the (obviously) WILD inaccuracies of the accompanying cartoon (from an animated kid's show we had over here, called Tiny Toons) could be seen as offensive.

Cheers for that.

On topic: I wonder if CDPR will make going the bioware route a viable option? Picturing a Solo that uses a bow and muscle-powered weapons for the "silent assassin" treatment, who confounds and befuddles opponents trying to use EMP weapons on him / her.

 

[chriswebb2020.736]

@ 8-bit

The design Nazis are being over zealous there. The original mock up was probably done in "Pimp-my-Gun" and finished in photoshop. As for the guys complaining that its just different parts put together and not unique, that would be from using pimp-my-gun and lets face it, the ACR, AR15, SCAR and 416 aren't exactly unique looking. I don't really get their problem, It even states on the image that its a combined H&K/Kriss development, so yes, it looks like a combined Kriss and H&K weapon.

The weight and recoil issues can be solved by using different materials and compensation methods.

All in all, it can be made to work and the stability from the offset recoil would be excellent. I think it's a well thought out and simple design.

 

[chriswebb2020.736]

I'm going to leave these here. I know I want them, and I am sure Wars will too...

These are also a bit mental:

I was going to post a picture of a triple-barrel shotgun, but quad-barrel is 33% better!

Also, sawn off shotguns are a given, (I hope,) but I really would like the option of 'over/under' rather than just 'side by side':

 

[thewarsend]

I'm going to leave these here. I know I want them, and I am sure Wars will too...

HELL YEAH! They all look awesome...

I especially like this one.. Just plain awesome.. I also hope there will be some sawn off shotguns..

...Interesting!

I was mostly posting the video for the silly They Might Be Giants song. Never occurred to me that the (obviously) WILD inaccuracies of the accompanying cartoon (from an animated kid's show we had over here, called Tiny Toons) could be seen as offensive.

Cheers for that.

On topic: I wonder if CDPR will make going the bioware route a viable option? Picturing a Solo that uses a bow and muscle-powered weapons for the "silent assassin" treatment, who confounds and befuddles opponents trying to use EMP weapons on him / her.

I wasn't really offended, since i know you didn't mean anything by it.. I just thought i should inform you, since, you know, someone could get really offended by it.. Also, in same subject, i like looney tunes better.. What a great childhood..

 

[thewarsend]

On the subject of weapons:


I like that how some small differences can change the appearance of the weapon drastically:

As much as we don't want to admit it, Cyberpunk 2020 does have "some" laser weapons, but i feel they should similar to the weapons we have now:

(Similar is the operating word)

By the way, i can totally imagine some corporate guy using something like this:

Also, a revolver sword:

...because, why not?

 

[chriswebb2020.736]

By the way, i can totally imagine some corporate guy using something like this:

Perhaps something more like this:

 

[thewarsend]

Perhaps something more like this:

Yeah, something like that would work..

By the way, i found this:

A triple barrel Japanese flare pistol.. Also i read somewhere many of these pistols were modified to shot 12ga shotgun shells.. Just awesome.. A bit dangerous to use though..

Also this:

For no obvious reasons..

 

[Hoplite_22]

That is an impressive load of butt ugly weapons ;P

Terrible taste in aesthetics aside, basically the rules governing weapons should be the same as the real world, how compact can you make significant power sources?
currently something like a lap top battery can out put 150 watts for like an hour. even at a 10 fold increase 1.5 KW isn't going to power shit like laser weapons or rail guns, chemical explosives are still going to be way ahead on that curve on personal weapons.
Vehicle mounted? that's more likely, as we are at 50 -100 KW storage now, a MW would be a pretty decent driver for a rail gun or laser weapon, a full body replacement carrying one? outside chance because that's going to hit a tonne for the power pack alone.
So it's likely that they will still be using chemical propellant weapons with maybe a magnetic rifling field on really fancy guns.
Given the likely hood of mono-molecular carbon/NNL laminate armor for anyone in combat regularly big soft lead slugs are likely not popular unless you are the lowest of the low.
3d printing on the other hand could mean pretty sophisticated stuff is all over the place.

 

[chriswebb2020.736]

That is an impressive load of butt ugly weapons ;P

Terrible taste in aesthetics aside, basically the rules governing weapons should be the same as the real world, how compact can you make significant power sources?
currently something like a lap top battery can out put 150 watts for like an hour. even at a 10 fold increase 1.5 KW isn't going to power shit like laser weapons or rail guns, chemical explosives are still going to be way ahead on that curve on personal weapons.
Vehicle mounted? that's more likely, as we are at 50 -100 KW storage now, a MW would be a pretty decent driver for a rail gun or laser weapon, a full body replacement carrying one? outside chance because that's going to hit a tonne for the power pack alone.
So it's likely that they will still be using chemical propellant weapons with maybe a magnetic rifling field on really fancy guns.
Given the likely hood of mono-molecular carbon/NNL laminate armor for anyone in combat regularly big soft lead slugs are likely not popular unless you are the lowest of the low.
3d printing on the other hand could mean pretty sophisticated stuff is all over the place.

With regards to your point on lasers; huge flaw in your reasoning.

The issue isn't "how much power can we store in a battery for an hour?", we are pretty much there with that. The problem is getting the energy pit in a massive discharge.

Lets take a lithium based laptop battery that can hold a 150w/hour charge. If that charge could be expended in 10 seconds, you are looking at 54,000 watts on that 10 seconds. So taking your factor of 10 will produce over 500kw.
That still isn't enough really, although a different storage method could probably hold a much larger initial charge.

So, let's stack 6 of these laptop sized batteries that will probably be using a different chemical, giving them each a 100 fold increase in capacity. Let's discharge them in a 10 second window. That's 32.4 mega watts. Now we are cooking with lasers...

 

[chriswebb2020.736]

PS: I personally hate weaponised lasers and I don't want them in Cyberpunk, but your reasoning for not including them was flawed.

PPS: As far as the gun aesthetics are concerned, beauty is in the eye of the beholder...

 

[thewarsend]

That is an impressive load of butt ugly weapons ;P

Terrible taste in aesthetics aside, basically the rules governing weapons should be the same as the real world, how compact can you make significant power sources?
currently something like a lap top battery can out put 150 watts for like an hour. even at a 10 fold increase 1.5 KW isn't going to power shit like laser weapons or rail guns, chemical explosives are still going to be way ahead on that curve on personal weapons.
Vehicle mounted? that's more likely, as we are at 50 -100 KW storage now, a MW would be a pretty decent driver for a rail gun or laser weapon, a full body replacement carrying one? outside chance because that's going to hit a tonne for the power pack alone.
So it's likely that they will still be using chemical propellant weapons with maybe a magnetic rifling field on really fancy guns.
Given the likely hood of mono-molecular carbon/NNL laminate armor for anyone in combat regularly big soft lead slugs are likely not popular unless you are the lowest of the low.
3d printing on the other hand could mean pretty sophisticated stuff is all over the place.

There is a huge flaw in your argument about energy weapons... First of all, it is really stupid to compare our current technology to the one Cyberpunk has.. Since you do notice that cybernetic implants, the things like cybernetic arms and cyborgs (full body conversion) don't run without power right? So those batteries as it were, have a lot more juice than that, they are really compact and they work for a lot longer than your average battery would.. You can practically say they have a better power source than laptop batteries.. Because the comparison is just ridiculous.. And you can't argue about something that is already in the sourcebooks.. It is in.. That technology exists.. I dislike laser weapons in Cyberpunk as much as the next guy, but if they exist, they should at least look like normal weapons..

And about taste and aesthetics, that's just your terrible opinion...

 

[Sardukhar]

Ahh..well, it's his opinion. I wouldn't say it's terrible. I'm not even sure that's possible, unless you really, really think Jersey Shore is the finest television ever made.

I would guess Hoplite prefers a sleeker weapons look than perhaps you and Chris do. But Chris wears a skirt and you, well.. where should I start? You have a ship on a..bird..with an anchor out? That's just weird, man!

He can argue about something in the sourcebooks. Why not? Lots of stuff in the sourcebooks is dumb! FOR EXAMPLE; some GM decided not to upgrade cellphones in his game, so now my character has to travel around with a cellphone, a datapad and a camera or smartgoggles. Really? Really? I'd like a Zetatech zPhone now, please!

Anyway, opinions. FEEL FREE TO HAVE THEM HOPLITE. I have extra, borrow a few of mine.

 

[Hoplite_22]

With regards to your point on lasers; huge flaw in your reasoning.

The issue isn't "how much power can we store in a battery for an hour?", we are pretty much there with that. The problem is getting the energy pit in a massive discharge.

Lets take a lithium based laptop battery that can hold a 150w/hour charge. If that charge could be expended in 10 seconds, you are looking at 54,000 watts on that 10 seconds. So taking your factor of 10 will produce over 500kw.
That still isn't enough really, although a different storage method could probably hold a much larger initial charge.

So, let's stack 6 of these laptop sized batteries that will probably be using a different chemical, giving them each a 100 fold increase in capacity. Let's discharge them in a 10 second window. That's 32.4 mega watts. Now we are cooking with lasers...

So that's what? 5 shots? 10 shots? before that pack is dead, that's going to leave you with 10 KG of hot electronics.
Also no, 1 KW is 1000 joules per second. so that's 1,500 joules per second for an hour, you can't really compress it anymore, you can decompress it though, like they do for car batteries. which is why most things these days that are portable can't do much more than 150 watts. dumping in to a capacitor for fast release is totally possible (see coil guns on youtube) but that takes time. time in which you can't fire at shit. I was being really kind offering a kind of super capacitor that could dump fast so it would have a fire rate of >0 per min.

PPS: As far as the gun aesthetics are concerned, beauty is in the eye of the beholder...

I know, that doesn't stop other peoples eyes being faulty though

 

[Sardukhar]

You all might find this interesting:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FIRESTRIKE

"The FIRESTRIKE (also known as JHPSSL) laser,[1] introduced by Northrop Grumman on November 13, 2008, is purportedly the first combat-ready solid-state laser weapon. FIRESTRIKE is a 15 kW modular laser "building block" which can be combined with other systems for specific missions, or 7 more FIRESTRIKEs for a single 100 kW laser.[2] Bundled with Northrop Grumman's own LCSA power supply, the FIRESTRIKE can fire continuously as long as power and cooling are maintained."

http://www.gizmag.com/northrop-grumman-laser/22472/

And the power supply:

 

[chriswebb2020.736]

So that's what? 5 shots? 10 shots? before that pack is dead, that's going to leave you with 10 KG of hot electronics.
Also no, 1 KW is 1000 joules per second. so that's 1,500 joules per second for an hour, you can't really compress it anymore, you can decompress it though, like they do for car batteries. which is why most things these days that are portable can't do much more than 150 watts. dumping in to a capacitor for fast release is totally possible (see coil guns on youtube) but that takes time. time in which you can't fire at shit. I was being really kind offering a kind of super capacitor that could dump fast so it would have a fire rate of >0 per min.



I know, that doesn't stop other peoples eyes being faulty though

So put the capacitors in 'magazine', job done. Must be why the game that was written almost 25 years ago specifies that they are capacitor lasers...

And I have 20/20 vision, (pun intended,) so I would head to specsavers if I were you.

 

[thewarsend]

Ahh..well, it's his opinion. I wouldn't say it's terrible. I'm not even sure that's possible, unless you really, really think Jersey Shore is the finest television ever made.

I have to disagree.. I think Jersey Shore is the greatest television Sony ever made...

@Hoplite, ignore my point all you want, it exists in the sourcebook so it is possible.. You can't argue with that..

 

[Hoplite_22]

There is a huge flaw in your argument about energy weapons... First of all, it is really stupid to compare our current technology to the one Cyberpunk has.. Since you do notice that cybernetic implants, the things like cybernetic arms and cyborgs (full body conversion) don't run without power right? So those batteries as it were, have a lot more juice than that, they are really compact and they work for a lot longer than your average battery would.. You can practically say they have a better power source than laptop batteries.. Because the comparison is just ridiculous.. And you can't argue about something that is already in the sourcebooks.. It is in.. That technology exists.. I dislike laser weapons in Cyberpunk as much as the next guy, but if they exist, they should at least look like normal weapons..

And about taste and aesthetics, that's just your terrible opinion...

cyborgs could totally be using the ATP - ADP conversion that regular humans do, just more of it, given it has a energy density of about 3.4 kj per mole, which is about 450g of the stuff, humans have a bout 250g total in the body on average, a cyborg with 4 kg of it could do a lot more work and just eat a lot to replenish stocks.

I dunno, wild stab in the dark. all depends on what the basis of the tech is.