What weapons do you want to see in the game?

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Well, now I think about it, caseless uses an electric charge instead of a bolt and pin. The weapons would not necessarily operate by gas or recoil, maybe an electric feed like a minigun?

If there is no ejection port I guess the only other option would be to take out the mag and eject that way.

At least hang fires would be far less lethal, what with no brass to contain the combustion gases...

It'd take a "bit" larger battery (or whatever) to operate a weapon electrically then to merely detonate a primer on the rounds.
And if your "hang fire" is the same as mine I suppose they might be a bit less lethal as there's no casing to rupture but for the most part you still get a flash-fire explosion and the possibility of the bullet winding up someplace you really don't want it.
I vote for an ejection port and some sort of ejection mechanism even on (better quality) weapons intended to use caseless ammo. Because even in 2070 no ammo is going to be 100% reliable.
 
The metal cartridge was developed in the 1840's, but didn't become standard, even for handguns, until around the 1870's.... they have remained standard for 140 years....

Just food for thought...
 
Hmmm...

I went back to chck up on electric trigger in the fluff and it seems I was talking out my backside.

Solo of Fortune 2 said:
Solenoid & Electric Triggers

Solenoid and Electric triggers are firing assemblies that fully replace the standard trigger. The most common use of this modification is for remote-fired vehicle weapons. An electric trigger can be used only on caseless ammo, (it uses a charge to actually ignite the round, as opposed to the impact of a firing pin on a primer.) A weapon with a solenoid trigger must either be smartlinked or have a firing stud of some kind. The benefits of these modifications are two-fold: first, if a weapon has a solenoid or electric trigger, is smart-linked, and has a security option, then no one but the owner can operate the weapon. Sure, a good tech could change the code, but it takes time and tools that the average fleeing felon lacks. Second, in long-range sniping situations, trigger-pull can deviate a bullet just enough to miss. With a solenoid trigger, this is eliminated.

Electric triggers perform basically the same functions as solenoid triggers, but for caseless weapons. Electric triggers were developed as part of binary weapons technology (like the M31a1). They are being used in caseless weapons as well to eliminate primers (thus decreasing the ammunition weight). The savings is negligible to the individual soldier, but when moving bulk lots of thousands of rounds they save weight and cost.

Solenoid triggers cost 1x weapon price and increase weapon weight by 1/10th. Solenoid and Electric triggers give a +1 WA at Extreme Range only.

Building a solenoid trigger is an Average Weaponsmith or Difficult Electronics roll, and takes one hour with proper tools and equipment. It takes another three hours to modify 100 rounds of ammo with an Average Weaponsmith roll, you can buy caseless ammo manufactured for electric fire; it costs 0.9x normal price, and will not work in regular caseless weapons.

So, electronic firing is an option rather than the rule.

However, I had totally forgot about binary propellants!
 
Oh, sorry, I meant reading from the Solo of Fortune 2 rules.

IRL the only time I can recall electrics coming up was to reduce the travel distance and muscle spasm on the trigger pull for long range shots.

And, apparently, an increase in RoF.
 
Oh, sorry, I meant reading from the Solo of Fortune 2 rules.

IRL the only time I can recall electrics coming up was to reduce the travel distance and muscle spasm on the trigger pull for long range shots.

And, apparently, an increase in RoF.

I'm guessing the increase in RoF comes from not having to move that heavy bolt all the time?
 
No-o..the bolt would still be operated in a gas-action firearm. The RoF would be from the much increased trigger speed and reduction of finger fatigue. Which might not seem like much, but across 600 rinds fired in short bursts of 2 or 3, yeah I could see it.

Trigger pull is actually quite a weird motion and does weird things to your forearm as it completes.
 
No-o..the bolt would still be operated in a gas-action firearm. The RoF would be from the much increased trigger speed and reduction of finger fatigue. Which might not seem like much, but across 600 rinds fired in short bursts of 2 or 3, yeah I could see it.

Trigger pull is actually quite a weird motion and does weird things to your forearm as it completes.

Ah, my bad. I had assumed the replacement of the whole action with an electrical method of detonating the primer. That's what the Cyberpunk ones do. What you are describing is the Cyberpunk equivalent of the solenoid trigger.
 
Ah, my bad. I had assumed the replacement of the whole action with an electrical method of detonating the primer. That's what the Cyberpunk ones do. What you are describing is the Cyberpunk equivalent of the solenoid trigger.


As far as I understood, the electric ones in 2020 use an electric charge to fire the round. They don't change out the gas-action. What else would cause blowback? And why would you anyway? Solenoid and electric are the same thing, for some reason 2020 has electric as being for caseless. Go figure.

Anyway. I'm sure
 
That reminds me, anyone considered the potential for an implanted shotgun entitled "Boomstick"?


"Army of Darkness" reference?



Also, how about an arm that can turn into a chainsaw? :D
 


"Army of Darkness" reference?



Also, how about an arm that can turn into a chainsaw? :D

Yep, I was hoping that someone would spot that I had reversed them. I know I can always count on you buddy.

And I believe there were chainsaw implants in 2020, so I hope to see them in 2077.
(Just checked, "Chain Ripp" from Chrome 3)

Of course, my favourite weapon implant is the "High Five".
 
Yep, I was hoping that someone would spot that I had reversed them. I know I can always count on you buddy.

And I believe there were chainsaw implants in 2020, so I hope to see them in 2077.
(Just checked, "Chain Ripp" from Chrome 3)

Ahh, i just can imagine, you can get Chain Ripp on the right arm, boomstick implant on the left arm and become Ash "fucking" Williams on your own right.. :D

Of course, my favourite weapon implant is the "High Five".

Yeah the best, most epic high five of all.. Explosive kind.. Sign me up..

Also, i was checking the Wisdom's database for Chain Ripp and saw this:



On "animal neuralware" section... What? We can have talking dogs? Wow! :D Didn't know that was an option.. I want one..

Also, i wonder what would happen if you placed a dog or dolphin brain on a human fbc body.. Some dogs can learn to walk on their back two feet but would they be able learn how to use their newly acquired opposable thumbs? :D
 
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