That kind of response followed by actually making things right would go a long way but even so unfortunately a lot of and probably majority of people who play on console don't have a PC capable of running the game. I have a pretty decent (by my standards for what I use it for) mini pc but I don't even attempt to game on it because I can't believe it's even possible. I don't even think it can play Minecraft.
Nothing. Complete silence until AFTER their first massive patch which I expect at the latest to be next week.
Then that patch should posted with a list of known bugs and planned fixes and a development roadmap to get the game on track for console players.
I don't care to much about apologizes but people seem to eat it up, so issue one of those.
But to me, I need to see clear actions before I hear any pr speech. I haven't lost faith in cdpr yet, they aren't at BioWare teir yet, or worse still, they aren't completely dead to me like Bethesda.
Then that patch should posted with a list of known bugs and planned fixes and a development roadmap to get the game on track for console players.
I don't care to much about apologizes but people seem to eat it up, so issue one of those.
But to me, I need to see clear actions before I hear any pr speech. I haven't lost faith in cdpr yet, they aren't at BioWare teir yet, or worse still, they aren't completely dead to me like Bethesda.
They've put themselves in a tough bind. They were pressured by an impatient consumer base (and probably management/investors) for a release, and simultaneously criticized heavily for delaying when it wasn't ready. And now they're being hammered for the release being buggy.
Then there's the issue of the consoles, and performance versus features. The performance on PS4/ XBOne is extremely poor, no denying that. And there's probably a lot of progress that can be made in that regard.
But they hyped up a vibrant and living city packed with things to do - when in fact, there is exactly nothing to do in the city outside of the looter-shooter quest structure.
So players are also demanding better AI for NPC's and police, more side activities, mini-games, etc. All of these things would increase HDD and memory footprint, and increase demands on the hardware. Each one individually may be negligible, but it all adds up.
I'm no software developer but these two goals, console performance and a more vibrant city, seem mutually exclusive and they're going to have to prioritize one or the other. And honestly, stability and performance to make the game actually playable on consoles is the only logical area to focus on.
Then there's the issue of the consoles, and performance versus features. The performance on PS4/ XBOne is extremely poor, no denying that. And there's probably a lot of progress that can be made in that regard.
But they hyped up a vibrant and living city packed with things to do - when in fact, there is exactly nothing to do in the city outside of the looter-shooter quest structure.
So players are also demanding better AI for NPC's and police, more side activities, mini-games, etc. All of these things would increase HDD and memory footprint, and increase demands on the hardware. Each one individually may be negligible, but it all adds up.
I'm no software developer but these two goals, console performance and a more vibrant city, seem mutually exclusive and they're going to have to prioritize one or the other. And honestly, stability and performance to make the game actually playable on consoles is the only logical area to focus on.
I enjoy the game just as it is on PC even though there are a lot of issues.
Actions are needed. Not words. They upset a lot of people with their words pre-launch. Sadly, those people aren't going to take anything they say to heart. I fear a press release would only serve as an avenue to further undeserved abuse.
Actions are needed. Not words. They upset a lot of people with their words pre-launch. Sadly, those people aren't going to take anything they say to heart. I fear a press release would only serve as an avenue to further undeserved abuse.
Only response I would like to see would be a roadmap that describes on broad terms what CDPR is aiming to do, and some ballpark estimates on when to expect these updates. Also a clear statement on how long they intend to keep supporting the game with new content and updates would be very welcome transparency in this industry.
Don't really need that corpo crap about game not meeting expectations of the community and other drivel we have seen with so many other AAA titles, just a clear commitment to updating and supporting the game and then actually keeping that.
Don't really need that corpo crap about game not meeting expectations of the community and other drivel we have seen with so many other AAA titles, just a clear commitment to updating and supporting the game and then actually keeping that.
That's my thinking too and that's why I have so much respect for how Hello Games handled the messed up launch of No Man's Sky. They admitted their screw up by fixing the game through repeated meaningful, significant action followed by repeated meaningful and significant action was their response in totality and it still continues to this day well beyond fixing the game. They've pretty much created No Mans Sky 2 and gave it away for free. They didn't give meaningless PR words, they showed exactly who they are and how they really feel about the people who buy their games.
Also considering CDPR purposefully and deceptively hid the real state of the game from console players, they don't need to be abused any further.
Don't blame this on 'Consumer Pressure'. Everyone was fine with their tag line 'It's ready when it's ready'. We got used to that. What they released, evidently, 'wasn't ready'. So that line was just arrogant bullshit for one.
That the A.I probably wont get fixed is clear to everyone I believe. All they can do is minimal adjustments to the spawn rate and movement of cops. Reconfiguring that wont take much more 'memory', it will just take a shitload of time. Instead to also spam the game with 'pointless' npc's just there to fill up the screen, they could simply eliminate most of that, lower the overall pedestrian count, and use the free memory for A.I adjustments.
And yeah, as much as it pains to admit it; They fucked themselves over by releasing this game on PS4/Xbox. This clearly should've been a PS5/XBox release. their 'slow HDD' functionality is so laughable that it's not even funny.
The game can be just barely ran on highest graphical settings with a RTX series GPU and they actually thought they could scale to make it run smoothly on a last gen base console.
Every cut feature, every T-pose, every substandard AI model. They are all there because this game launched simultaneously for nine different hardware variations on 4 different platforms. I'm actually willing to bet money they spent most of the additional delay time cutting features one by one, desperately juggling all those different versions trying to get a somewhat stable build.
No man's sky got it right. Put all the effort into pushing out patches and adding new stuff. CD is a bigger company, so they can probably even have another team working on DLC.
But they need to be clear that everything promised over the years will come free. Customisation options.
But they need to be clear that everything promised over the years will come free. Customisation options.
The best down to earth scenario and my greatest hope is they understand what's wrong. It was an exhausting crunch to release it before holidays, cut down on a lot in order to make it on time.
Now they're getting some rest, while a small team works on gamebreaking stuff to patch.
When the whole team returns, they'll sit down and decide how to move next when it comes to content adding. Who does what etc and in which priority. Then (and that is a great hope of mine, so that the game doesn't lose its momentum), they'll dare an announcement of what's coming.
So in a few months we'll have a truly next gen vivid city where you can interact with almost everyone in various ways, where you can enter and interact with almost every single sexy, flashy shop and with a fully customizable wardrobe. (They can even make the unzipped pants an option if they want, it'll only make the game better).
And if all that takes place and the game goes on doing well, we'll eventually get a fantastic multiplayer experience in a couple of years that will put GTA to shame.
Please don't wake me up from this dream. Thanks.
Now they're getting some rest, while a small team works on gamebreaking stuff to patch.
When the whole team returns, they'll sit down and decide how to move next when it comes to content adding. Who does what etc and in which priority. Then (and that is a great hope of mine, so that the game doesn't lose its momentum), they'll dare an announcement of what's coming.
So in a few months we'll have a truly next gen vivid city where you can interact with almost everyone in various ways, where you can enter and interact with almost every single sexy, flashy shop and with a fully customizable wardrobe. (They can even make the unzipped pants an option if they want, it'll only make the game better).
And if all that takes place and the game goes on doing well, we'll eventually get a fantastic multiplayer experience in a couple of years that will put GTA to shame.
Please don't wake me up from this dream. Thanks.
Sounds like denial and coping to me. Both of which, should NOT have had to happen with all the promises of what this game was supposed to be!
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I say we need a third voting option:
"I say screw them for doing this to us and I am refunding the game."
I'm in favor of refunds, refund petitions and sueing. The misleading marketing of this game was a company bad practice and I'm shure that as a consumer we all have the right to fight for our rights. In US, games usually cost $60.00. Here in Brazil games cost R$250.00. That's a lot of money to spend in a game. I believe we should do everything in our power to make this stop. This company got at least 480 million dollar selling a broken product with pre-sales alone. If it was a phone company, like Apple or Samsung, I doubt that we would stay stoped just watching them counting their bills.
Those who can, sue them. Organize and sign petitions, make pressure. Make CDPR know that this is the last time they will do something like that.
Those who can, sue them. Organize and sign petitions, make pressure. Make CDPR know that this is the last time they will do something like that.
The sad truth is, I would have paid 100 dollars for this game... even more if it was what was promised. It's absolutely not.
Lol. The only way to do this would be a class action lawsuit,. Suing for 60 EUR damages is going to be pointless given that the Lawyer fees will cost you more upfront, with no guarantee of pay off.
A Class action lawsuit filed by a group of game-owners however, specifically the PS4/XBox owners could very much be possible. Missleading advertising 'is' punishable.
Same but with Square Enix and Final Fantasy 14. Played that game at release and it is probably the worst MMO if not the worst multiplayer experience I've ever had. Then Yoshida-san took over and they rebooted the game into a 2.0, constantly releasing blog posts and updates on their work, and now the game is my favorite MMO. Gives me hope that CD Projekt can do the same thing here. I hope that after several patches, free DLC and an expansion or two this game will be exactly what was promised.