Whorehouse´s

[Geralt_and_Ciri]

Whorehouse´s

Since Witcher 3 is based on the Witcher Series, written by Andrzej Sapkowski, i think that the whorehouse should have some important point on the immersion of the open world, no only a dirty whore in the middle of a tent, a true brothel should have his own security and a big quantity of rooms with whores, information and quest, i mean, c`mon, The Witcher supposed to be a adult game, even if a lot of childrens will play this, but i do not want nudes or some brutal sex scene, i just mean show how are the whorehouses, no some pink false fiction, even Dandelion agree with me.

 

[Aes Sídhe]

"Adult" to me does not mean the necessary inclusion of anything sexual. Plus I think they prefer to say "Mature", and its regarding narrative themes rather than explicit content. I agree the setting affords the presence of whores, but I personally couldn't care less about this aspect.

I'm no prude, but for instance, the increasingly ubiquitous sexual scenes in HBO programs like GoT are starting to bug me...

I have absolutely no need for virtual titillation.

 

[Mgec]

I have absolutely no need for virtual titillation.

But you do have a need of virtual violence then?

 

[Aes Sídhe]

No, I wouldn't say that I do. I would say I have a need to be told a good tale occasionally, and the more involved I can be in that, the better.

Want evidence of my non-violent nature? I've yet to fight the Letho, and we've talked our problems through 8 times already...

 

[Blothulfur]

But you do have a need of virtual violence then?

I do.

 

[Garrison72]

"Adult" to me does not mean the necessary inclusion of anything sexual. Plus I think they prefer to say "Mature", and its regarding narrative themes rather than explicit content. I agree the setting affords the presence of whores, but I personally couldn't care less about this aspect.

I'm no prude, but for instance, the increasingly ubiquitous sexual scenes in HBO programs like GoT are starting to bug me...

I have absolutely no need for virtual titillation.

Well said, but I do hope brothels are in the game for the same reason violence and drugs are - it's part of the world and in my mind it opens up interesting story ideas. But for pure titillation, no. GOT is leaning too heavily in this direction and it's looking downright amateurish at times. I want TW3 to treat this topic with the proper perspective.

 

[Luxorek]

The Witcher One had prostitues on every corner of Vizima, not to mention the exquisite brothel full of vampires in the better part of town. I actually liked Carmen [the chief prostitue] quite a lot - she was presented as a very human character [through her romance with-you-know-who], that you could empathize with, especially after learning her backstory.

The Witcher II took a step back from that approach, or rather didn't pay that side of the world much attention. Sure, there is a brothel in Flotsam and then later in Kaedwen Camp, but it's just there as a prop, rather than something for you to ponder. Now you can watch all those mo-captured sex scenes one by one just by having sex with the wh****! I imagine some will say that's better, I don't agree.

I guess we can expect brothels and prostitutes to return in TW3 - hell, Novigrad is the biggest city in the world and a port at that ! I just hope we get some meaningful quests.

 

[Bellator Pius Gratus]

Since Witcher 3 is based on the Witcher Series, written by Andrzej Sapkowski, i think that the whorehouse should have some important point on the immersion of the open world, no only a dirty whore in the middle of a tent, a true brothel should have his own security and a big quantity of rooms with whores, information and quest, i mean, c`mon, The Witcher supposed to be a adult game, even if a lot of childrens will play this, but i do not want nudes or some brutal sex scene, i just mean show how are the whorehouses, no some pink false fiction, even Dandelion agree with me.

What comes to my mind is the brothel Dandelion(and Yen) visits in the beginning of Blood of Elves. Sort of private rooms(and secret doors) for secret meetings and what not. No matter your vice. Could be interesting to work it in the story or sidequest to visit nice parlour inns and gritty shitty taverns/brothels respectively. This in order to meet and gain info from unsavoury types from all kinds of rungs on the social ladder. In addition I would like cosy inns or taverns and also some gambling dens.

Ahh, I can't wait for this game!!!

And of course all of these places should be atmospheric as hell!!!

Yay! :thumbsup:

 

[Mgec]

No, I wouldn't say that I do. I would say I have a need to be told a good tale occasionally, and the more involved I can be in that, the better.

Ok. I'm not saying brothels are a must, but if you want an immersive, involved experience, you should agree upon the inclusion of brothels and sex, as much as you accept the violence in the game. Considering the Witcher franchise tries to represent a mature medieval-fantasy world the use of these things is partly justified and believable.

 

[mxYELLOW]

With the nature of the game, a brothel house will definitely happen. We already see an example with Flotsam's brothel. What I want to see is their version of the inn-on-every-town thing from good old days RPGs.

 

[vivaxardas2015]

But you do have a need of virtual violence then?

Sure I do. I can't chop off heads in real life, you know, even if I ever want to. But sex is all around us, baby, you just need to know where to go.

 

[volsung]

Novigrad is a special city and I'm sure it'll feature at least one large, elaborate brothel (the Passiflora?).

But since we're talking about mature themes here it would be interesting if TW3 breaks the unspoken video game rule of offering what the player wants/expects and instead of plain sex some brothel housed a complicated story of abuse and human trafficking. After this, I bet some Geralts would think twice before whoring it up just because huh?

 

[dragonbird]

Novigrad is a special city and I'm sure it'll feature at least one large, elaborate brothel (the Passiflora?).

But since we're talking about mature themes here it would be interesting if TW3 breaks the unspoken video game rule of offering what the player wants/expects and instead of plain sex some brothel housed a complicated story of abuse and human trafficking. After this, I bet some Geralts would think twice before whoring it up just because huh?

DX:HR did that.

 

[AserPik]

Haha I read that as "big quality" of whorehouses, in that case I would agree..

But quantity? Nah nothing wrong with a small nook for coconut McCluvin aka Geralt...

 

[frynse]

I'm sure there'll be one to some extent, although I don't think you should expect it to be so elaborate.
Also, I just noticed there's only room for 10 posts per page with the new forum, that's kind of shitty.

 

[GingerEffect]

Sex in general is, in my humble opinion, part of a mature theme in that it should be understood that sex is part of adult life. There is no need to shy away from showing it, nor is there a need to use it excessively just to make a game "mature" by virtue of having naked men and/or women.

Sex, and brothels, are part of the world and in my opinion there is nothing wrong with showing them if it is part of painting the larger picture of the story/world. That's my idea anyway.

As for interesting twists and turns to such places, I think it is a great idea, but one needs to be careful with matters such as this. What goes for sex (as in, if it is included, it shouldn't feel like it is there just because, it should feel natural) goes double for the more controversial topics. One needs to tread carefully because above all we do not want to use things simply to bluntly whack players over the head with "LOOK! THIS IS BAD! FEEL BAD!". Such issues deserve a lot of care and thought.

It needs to fit the context. It needs to make sense. And it needs to be treated in a way that makes it actually "mature" and not just "gratification". That's my personal theory on it anyway.

 

[Clearly_Balkan]

I don't know about everyone else, but at least to me Witcher games screams sex, adult, mature, blood & gore themes on every gameplay second, especially the first one. Either way, no matter what level of adult content is in W3, hentai adult art & stories will do the rest for me !

There should definitely be places of relaxations with various payed services.

Already I have in mind several questions for two kinky dryads ! He - He !

 

[Clearly_Balkan]

Well said, but I do hope brothels are in the game for the same reason violence and drugs are - it's part of the world and in my mind it opens up interesting story ideas. But for pure titillation, no. GOT is leaning too heavily in this direction and it's looking downright amateurish at times. I want TW3 to treat this topic with the proper perspective.

Have you by any chance read all GOT books?

Well if you did you would know there is nothing "looking downright amateurish at times" in numerous sex scenes described in details.

Besides HBO GOT series is maybe 50% in best case of all story & details mentioned in books.

 

[Aes Sídhe]

@Mgec; I have never accepted any equivalence between virtual violence in games and real world violence. They are two completely separate things, and anyone who has truly experienced violence will tell you the same. And i'm talking real violence, not some playground scrap. Its usually politicians & tabloids that bring up this dubious relationship for their own selfish purposes.

Virtual titillation is different, as it can be equivalent to porn, quite obviously, I'm not going to crudely spell that out.

Plus I never said I'm against the inclusion of whores, quite the opposite in fact. When i say i couldn't care less i mean exactly that, it's the least important aspect they could focus on in the game for me.

I fully expect them to be in TW3, as they were in the previous games, for the same reasons you & slim have supplied, I just wouldn't want it to have an undue quantity of emphasis. We should remember CDPR has come in for stick for things like this before, partly because theres no judgement of a players decisions in the games, and some people just can't handle that.

If i'm being reactionary at all, it's simply due to the fact that there is undoubtedly sex creep occurring in mainstream entertainment these days, and its easy to see it getting out of hand. I honestly don't know who's asking for it increased in the like of GoT... certainly no one I speak to. I suspect it's just the suits applying some manipulation of subconscious desires, like the naked girl in the coca cola ice cube, a devious psychological influence technique.

@volsung84; I shouted YES! when I read your suggestion re human trafficking, i'd appreciate something along these lines in the game, and seems suitable to countries post war.

@GingerEffect; a gift for you !

"Critics who treat adult as a term of approval, instead of as a merely descriptive term, cannot be adult themselves. To be concerned about being grown up, to admire the grown up because it is grown up, to blush at the suspicion of being childish; these things are the marks of childhood and adolescence."

- C. S. Lewis.

 

[Blothulfur]

You ask me the Madam and her story in Flotsam was quite involved, and a damn good subtle look at the reality of life for a woman who was forced to sell herself for a living, and how she reacted to that. On the surface a bawdy cheerful lass and pillar of the community, below a deeply troubled woman who hated and hated. Damned nice portrayal, achieved with a minimum of content.