Why did CD project destroy Scoiatael faction?

[ofratko007]

Why did CD project destroy Scoiatael faction?

I'm playing Scoiatael since the start of the Gwent Witcher game and it was always the weakest faction(the elven one) but after the last changes its not worth to play. Its extremelly weak and one has to have at least 3 gold cards to have chance to win. Gold cards which are weak. Everyone is complainig about scouts but they are basically pulling cards from a weak deck. There is no bronze resurrection or a create card... The archers, the best according to the lore are only usable once unless u have a movement deck and have to pray that the opponent doesnt destroy your 7 power bowmen (women). So to win you have to really play game of tactics against overpowered decks. There are a very few ppl playin it especially higher levels of ranked play... Its sad really. And it wont change in the future .

 

[Khreygond]

Are you for real?

 

[ofratko007]

Obviously. Not sure whether you are playin ranked lately or how long are you playing. But Elves are feeble big time. Comparin to the rest.

 

[NomanPeopled]

Right now all the factions seem to be doing fairly well. Scoia'tael is definitely not the weakest though; Brouver has the third highest win percentage among leaders.
It's also very popular, or was until the challenge hit.

It also wasn't always the weakest faction. In fact, it warranted a series of nerfs during Midwinter, not very long ago. I did well with Mulligan, Handbuff, and Alchtael during different seasons, too.

Movement decks are indeed in a sad place. That doesn't slow down ST.

 

[Legendarum]

Hmm, this post confuses me. I'm also a massive Scoia'tael player, they were the only faction I played up until a few months ago when I decided to branch out.. but sheesh, I really can't see a problem with them at all.

Apart from movement, I can't think of another Scoia'tael archetype that isn't viable. Brouver has been absurdly competative - while spella'tael, elf-swarm, dwarves, heck, even handbuff to some extent, are all very, very viable decks.

I really can't understand where you're coming from on this one.

 

[ZenaRose]

Yaeowinn - Brouver - Barclay - Cleaver is still strongest combo in the game. This deck is still crazy (alchemy deck with 6 bronzes 5-deal 13 is more broken ofc). If you going 1st vs Brouver you just lost lol
But overall scoiatael is doing fine right now.

 

[ofratko007]

Hmm Ive played all decks you mentioned and they are hard work to win with. Comparing to NG or Skellige. Actually the movement deck is the best as a very few ppl are playing is so opponent is slightly surprised to see it. From what I can see there is generally one deck used on higher ranked play Brouver one. The last Gwent open was the proof they had the same Sk deck. The winner didnt even bother with Sk this time...

 

[Rawls]

Yeah ST seems pretty good actually currently. I don't think it's OP like it was a couple patches ago ... but it's definitely not weak.

 

[Khreygond]

Obviously. Not sure whether you are playin ranked lately or how long are you playing. But Elves are feeble big time. Comparin to the rest.

Look at the date I joined. How long do you think?

But yeah, Elf swarm is very competitive, among the top 5 decks in Gwent. Handbuff is viable, Spell'tael probably the least viable but might be fun to play in Casual. Pretty much what the rest of the posters here told you

 

[ofratko007]

I've just watched the Gwent open finale... and yep I can see how strong SK is against fe Skellige deck( bronze Freya Priestess with 23 points great sword it made me laugh soo hard. And ppl are complaining about scouts) The same with NG deck. That is the reason I don't see it much lately in ranked.. And I manage to play many hours lately. Your opinions are appreciated tho. Only time and how many ppl actually continue to play the faction will prove whether they are correct...

 

[Hellsmoke77]

Brouver is only so strong because of the coinflip abuse, it still isn't a t1 deck. Mulligan is the only viable archetype and that will change after wardancer gets nerfed. They will nerf mulligan soon and kill off ST for good im sure. I agree with the op.

 

[NomanPeopled]

Brouver is only so strong because of the coinflip abuse, it still isn't a t1 deck.

Coinflip abuse makes it a tier 1 deck.

Mulligan is the only viable archetype and that will change after wardancer gets nerfed.

Most Brouver decks are mulligan decks. Most mulligan decks are Brouver decks.

They will nerf mulligan soon and kill off ST for good im sure. I agree with the op.

You agree that CDPR destroyed ST based on your suspicion that ST will be nerfed in the future?

 

[DRK3]

Im sorry, but what the hell is the OP talking about? There have been barely any changes to Gwent since Midwinter patch, and since then SC has been dominating most of the time, with not just one archetype but several.

If im not mistaken, the nerfs and changes since then have been only to the dwarves, the elves have all remained the same or even buffed (looking at you Iorveth), and if they have recently decreased in popularity is either because the meta shifted to counter them or people got tired of playing them over and over again.

If there is a faction in need of a buff its NR (and that is not my favourite faction, im not saying this because i want my preferred faction to do better)

 

[NomanPeopled]

In terms of results Henselt outperforms even Brouver, albeit by only .4 percentage points.

Actually, looking at the gwentup meta report, it looks like all factions are fairly succesful.
SK has two leaders with 50%+ win rate, ST and NR have one each, and MO and NG have none although both are close enough.

 

[OG.laloquaint]

Let me disregard the whole Cleaver - Barclay - Brouver combo and tell you that ST is a very good faction. Nobody uses Dwarves anymore but I bet they're still quite good. Movement CAN be quite a decent deck, you just have to take a different approach to it. You could always make an Elf Swarm deck as well, this deck has been good for months but only recently have people started using it. Basically, ST seems like the weakest faction but they're really not.

 

[Void_Singer]

lol the only changes of any note to elves:
Meditation is limited to enemies on the same row
Elven Scout lost 1 power
Aglais now banishes the card she steals

Swordmasters now only target enemies (buff in my book)
Morenn damage buffed to 7

oh but those poor elves...
e.e

 

[pthieu1986]

You must be a crazy fan of SC and someone who solely plays SC. To be short, everything belongs to the SC is OP; that's why they nerfed some cards. SC has been the most popular faction for at least two seasons and it is still now. So, stop whining plz!

 

[NomanPeopled]

ST popularity is at 19.3% total beyond 3.3k mmr according to the latest gwentup meta report, which would make it the third most popular.
NR 27.9%
MO 20.7%
NG 16.3%
SK 15.9%
Popularity changes quickly though.
It's sorta weird that SK is comparatively unpopular even though they're the only faction with two leaders among the top five in terms of results.

In any case, ST is not OP (currently).

 

[Void_Singer]

only reason NR/MO are on top of popularity is thanks to faction challenge...

 

[ofratko007]

You must be a crazy fan of SC and someone who solely plays SC. To be short, everything belongs to the SC is OP; that's why they nerfed some cards. SC has been the most popular faction for at least two seasons and it is still now. So, stop whining plz!

That is your comment to this post... EVERYTHING in SC faction is overpowered... Oh man seriously. Since when is expressing opinion whining? I remember when the gwent started SC was miserable then. Then they gave it more power and now they are nerfing and nerfing but mostly this faction. They should nerf NG and SK as well when they are at it... And perhaps fixing the servers. But still I'm just whining...