Why Did CDPR Move on From Cyberpunk 2077 So Quickly While Keeping The Witcher 3 Alive?

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There is a striking contrast between how CDPR has treated The Witcher 3 and Cyberpunk 2077. Both games are among the company's biggest successes, yet CDPR has shown a much stronger willingness to extend the lifespan of The Witcher 3 than it has with Cyberpunk 2077.

The Witcher 3 was released in 2015, yet CDPR is still investing in it. And we're not talking about simple technical support or minor updates.

First came Hearts of Stone, followed by Blood and Wine. Blood and Wine in particular was much more than a traditional DLC. It felt like an entirely new Witcher adventure, almost like a standalone RPG experience. CDPR continued expanding an already massive game and gave it a much longer lifespan.

And the story didn't end there.

CDPR is now working on Songs of Part, a new expansion for The Witcher 3. On top of that, The Witcher 3 Remastered is also in development. In other words, a game released in 2015 is still receiving major investment even while the next Witcher game is being developed.

That naturally raises the question: what about Cyberpunk 2077?

After its troubled launch in 2020, Cyberpunk 2077 went through a massive transformation. The 2.0 update completely overhauled many of the game's core systems, and then came Phantom Liberty. Phantom Liberty was the point where CDPR finally brought Cyberpunk 2077 much closer to the game it should have been from the beginning.

But ironically, just as the game reached its strongest state, CDPR largely ended its support and shifted its focus toward Cyberpunk 2.

And that's where the criticism becomes legitimate.

The Cyberpunk universe is not any less suitable for expansion than The Witcher universe. If anything, Night City is incredibly well suited for new stories. A new district, corporation, gang, fixer, political conflict, or something involving the Blackwall could easily serve as the foundation for an entirely new storyline.

So the issue isn't simply that “Cyberpunk 2077 should have received more DLC.”

The bigger issue is how willing CDPR is to extend the life of one of its games.

For The Witcher 3, we have:

  1. Hearts of Stone
  2. Blood and Wine
  3. Songs of the past
  4. The Witcher 3 Remastered
Yet after Phantom Liberty, we never saw a comparable long-term content plan for Cyberpunk 2077. Considering how much potential the game and its world still had, that feels like a major missed opportunity.

And the irony goes even deeper.

During the first few years after its release, one of the biggest criticisms of Cyberpunk 2077 was that it felt unfinished and failed to live up to its potential. CDPR spent years fixing the game, rebuilding its systems, and eventually delivered the Cyberpunk experience many players had originally wanted.

That should have been the beginning of the game's second life.

A new major expansion, a new section of Night City, new characters, new questlines, additional romance options, new vehicles, or new gameplay systems could have kept Cyberpunk 2077 relevant for several more years.

Instead, CDPR's approach seems to have been:

“We finally turned Cyberpunk 2077 into the game it should have been. Now let's move on to the next one.”

With The Witcher 3, the philosophy seems almost the opposite:

“This game is still valuable. Let's keep adding to it, even years later.”

Of course, there are legitimate reasons behind this. Technical limitations, development costs, restructuring, and the long-term plans for Cyberpunk 2 all matter. But from the player's perspective, the result is still the same.

CDPR treats The Witcher 3 not just as a game, but as a long-lasting platform and part of its legacy. Cyberpunk 2077, by comparison, feels more like a stepping stone toward Cyberpunk 2.

And that's particularly disappointing when you consider just how much potential Night City still has.

CDPR had an enormous world in its hands that was still capable of supporting years of new stories.

And perhaps the biggest irony of all is this:

Cyberpunk 2077 reaching its best version could have been the beginning of its second life. Instead, it became the beginning of its end.

Meanwhile, The Witcher 3 is still being kept alive 11 years after its release through new content and new versions.

So the real question isn't whether CDPR cares about the Cyberpunk universe.

The real question is:

Why hasn't CDPR shown Cyberpunk 2077 the same long-term commitment it has shown The Witcher 3?

My Personal Suggestion: A Fifth Corporate War Expansion​

If CDPR ever considers returning to Cyberpunk 2077 for one more major expansion, I would strongly recommend making it about the Fifth Corporate War.

Night City is already built around conflicts between megacorporations, and the lore provides an enormous amount of material that could be explored. A new expansion centered around a new corporate conflict could introduce a completely different side of Night City while still taking advantage of the existing world and systems.

New factions, new fixers, new characters and new areas of Night City, allowing the expansion to tell a fresh story within the Cyberpunk 2077 universe.

Imagine being caught in the middle of a new corporate war between Arasaka, Militech and other corporations, with Night City becoming a battlefield. Add new missions, vehicles, weapons, cyberware, romances and gameplay systems, and CDPR could potentially create another expansion on the scale of Phantom Liberty.

Personally, I believe this would be a much better way to give Cyberpunk 2077 one final major chapter before fully moving on to Cyberpunk 2.

If CDPR ever decides to give Cyberpunk 2077 one more expansion, my personal suggestion would be simple: make it about the Fifth Corporate War.

Night City still has stories left to tell.

Moreover, there is still a long time until Cyberpunk 2. Letting people forget the Cyberpunk universe could be a mistake from a marketing perspective.


If you've made it this far, congratulations — and thank you for reading. 😄
 
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In fact, TW3 didn't receive any update for a long time, so maybe Cyberpunk 2077 will get the same treatment in a couple of years, when the release of Cyberpunk 2 will be close enough.
So I will not say CDPR gave up on Cyberpunk 2077, just they have more important project at the moment :)
 
Simple:

Cyberpunk 2077 launched poorly and thus required a lot of work in order to overhaul and fix the game for 2.0.

It was also during this that CDPR decided that RED Engine wasn't doing it for them with all the additions they had to make for it to get CP2077 to work.

As such, moving on from 2077 and instead looking towards Orion made sense. Using UE5 instead of RED Engine. Taking note of all the designs that didn't work out in CP2077 and creating a new game, one that isn't based upon the flawed designs of the 1.0 release.

In addition, much of the recent news surrounding W3 is to do with promoting the new and upcoming Witcher 4, while Orion is slated for a later release (Though W1-3 remasters have been in the cards for a while now simply due to how clunky W1 and W2 were, and wanting to get people who played W3 to also be able to go through W1 and W2 without having to deal with the clunk of these older games)

Also, it's not as if CP2077 has been abandoned the whole time. Much of what is being added in the W3 remaster, CP2077 has already received as part of its post-release support. In fact, up until relatively recently, CP2077 has had continual updates to it, only stopping once workload had shifted entirely to Orion.
 
In fact, TW3 didn't receive any update for a long time, so maybe Cyberpunk 2077 will get the same treatment in a couple of years, when the release of Cyberpunk 2 will be close enough.
So I will not say CDPR gave up on Cyberpunk 2077, just they have more important project at the moment :)
I understand that CDPR has more important projects right now, but the same applies to The Witcher 3. Despite developing The Witcher 4, they’re still bringing new content and updates to The Witcher 3 years later.

So “they have more important projects” isn’t really enough to explain Cyberpunk 2077’s situation. My criticism isn’t that they should abandon Cyberpunk 2, but rather why they haven’t shown Cyberpunk 2077 the same long-term support they’ve given The Witcher 3.
 
I understand that CDPR has more important projects right now, but the same applies to The Witcher 3. Despite developing The Witcher 4, they’re still bringing new content and updates to The Witcher 3 years later.
It's a marketing plan ;)

The Witcher 4 is in full production (about 500 devs working on it), so they release a remastered version of the game in order to grow the hype for the upcoming expansion, which will in turn, grow the hype for The Witcher 4.

While Cyberpunk 2 is in pre-production, years away from release. So just be patient. I'm confident that when the game will be officially announced, a similar marketing plan will take place for Cyberpunk 2077. New update(s), some new content(s), maybe an expansion/DLC and so on, to again, grow the hype for the upcoming game.

The Witcher 3 didn't get any update or new content for years, they were too busy with Cyberpunk 2077 :)
 
It's a marketing plan ;)

The Witcher 4 is in full production (about 500 devs working on it), so they release a remastered version of the game in order to grow the hype for the upcoming expansion, which will in turn, grow the hype for The Witcher 4.

While Cyberpunk 2 is in pre-production, years away from release. So just be patient. I'm confident that when the game will be officially announced, a similar marketing plan will take place for Cyberpunk 2077. New update(s), some new content(s), maybe an expansion/DLC and so on, to again, grow the hype for the upcoming game.

The Witcher 3 didn't get any update or new content for years, they were too busy with Cyberpunk 2077 :)
If Cyberpunk 2077 gets new content when Cyberpunk 2 is closer to release, I'll gladly admit you were right. But until then, I still think ending support just as 2077 reached its best state was a missed opportunity. :)
 
But until then, I still think ending support just as 2077 reached its best state was a missed opportunity. :)
Well you could have said the same in 2020 about The Witcher 3 around Cyberpunk 2077 release :giggle:
Asking why CDPR focused only on Cyberpunk 2077?
Why the GOTY 2015 which sold +40 millions copies didn't get more love/attention since years?
 
Simple:

Cyberpunk 2077 launched poorly and thus required a lot of work in order to overhaul and fix the game for 2.0.

It was also during this that CDPR decided that RED Engine wasn't doing it for them with all the additions they had to make for it to get CP2077 to work.

As such, moving on from 2077 and instead looking towards Orion made sense. Using UE5 instead of RED Engine. Taking note of all the designs that didn't work out in CP2077 and creating a new game, one that isn't based upon the flawed designs of the 1.0 release.

In addition, much of the recent news surrounding W3 is to do with promoting the new and upcoming Witcher 4, while Orion is slated for a later release (Though W1-3 remasters have been in the cards for a while now simply due to how clunky W1 and W2 were, and wanting to get people who played W3 to also be able to go through W1 and W2 without having to deal with the clunk of these older games)

Also, it's not as if CP2077 has been abandoned the whole time. Much of what is being added in the W3 remaster, CP2077 has already received as part of its post-release support. In fact, up until relatively recently, CP2077 has had continual updates to it, only stopping once workload had shifted entirely to Orion.
This basically. CP2077 was significantly redesigned from its original release until now. I don't know how many hours that took, but probably a lot more than an expansion's worth. Along the way, the game did also get expanded significantly. The one official expansion was a big one, which is what CDPR said it would be. In addition, even though I haven't seen anything to suggest that CDPR has changed its mind about not having a second expansion, I also suspect that they aren't yet done with it. As CP2 gets closer, it wouldn't surprise me at all if we see new additions to CP2077 that don't get charged like an expansion. I made the unfortunate mistake of declaring a couple of different times that CDPR was finished with CP2077, and won't make that mistake a third time.

As for TW3, that game was the sort of phenomenon not often repeated. Its expansions are almost absurd in scope, and I don't think we'll see that model again for TW4, CP2077, CP2, or whatever is on the horizon.
 
As for TW3, that game was the sort of phenomenon not often repeated. Its expansions are almost absurd in scope, and I don't think we'll see that model again for TW4, CP2077, CP2, or whatever is on the horizon.
We might see it for Orion or Hadar. Maybe W6 too.

Depends on how everything pans out really.

W4 and W5 it's unlikely, because they have resigned themselves to wanting to pump out the trilogy within a 6 year span. Which leaves them with little room to add DLC of any kind.

Orion, Hadar and W6 don't currently have much, if anything, planned after them so they might work on some big DLC while they figure out where to go next with the respective IP's.

With of course, things being dependent on how the base game lands. Part of why CP2077 had DLC cancelled was due to how much work had to be put into it post-release (Along with the new systems still being based on the underlying framework, as everything was adapted rather than remade from the ground up).

Though things should be fine. W4 is going to be their flagship UE5 title, so if anything's going to be borked on release it'll be that. Which they will presumably fix and learn from by the time W5/Orion drops.
 
There is a striking contrast between how CDPR has treated The Witcher 3 and Cyberpunk 2077. Both games are among the company's biggest successes, yet CDPR has shown a much stronger willingness to extend the lifespan of The Witcher 3 than it has with Cyberpunk 2077.

The Witcher 3 was released in 2015, yet CDPR is still investing in it. And we're not talking about simple technical support or minor updates.

First came Hearts of Stone, followed by Blood and Wine. Blood and Wine in particular was much more than a traditional DLC. It felt like an entirely new Witcher adventure, almost like a standalone RPG experience. CDPR continued expanding an already massive game and gave it a much longer lifespan.

And the story didn't end there.

CDPR is now working on Songs of Part, a new expansion for The Witcher 3. On top of that, The Witcher 3 Remastered is also in development. In other words, a game released in 2015 is still receiving major investment even while the next Witcher game is being developed.

That naturally raises the question: what about Cyberpunk 2077?

After its troubled launch in 2020, Cyberpunk 2077 went through a massive transformation. The 2.0 update completely overhauled many of the game's core systems, and then came Phantom Liberty. Phantom Liberty was the point where CDPR finally brought Cyberpunk 2077 much closer to the game it should have been from the beginning.

But ironically, just as the game reached its strongest state, CDPR largely ended its support and shifted its focus toward Cyberpunk 2.

And that's where the criticism becomes legitimate.

The Cyberpunk universe is not any less suitable for expansion than The Witcher universe. If anything, Night City is incredibly well suited for new stories. A new district, corporation, gang, fixer, political conflict, or something involving the Blackwall could easily serve as the foundation for an entirely new storyline.

So the issue isn't simply that “Cyberpunk 2077 should have received more DLC.”

The bigger issue is how willing CDPR is to extend the life of one of its games.

For The Witcher 3, we have:

  1. Hearts of Stone
  2. Blood and Wine
  3. Songs of Part
  4. The Witcher 3 Remastered
Yet after Phantom Liberty, we never saw a comparable long-term content plan for Cyberpunk 2077. Considering how much potential the game and its world still had, that feels like a major missed opportunity.

And the irony goes even deeper.

During the first few years after its release, one of the biggest criticisms of Cyberpunk 2077 was that it felt unfinished and failed to live up to its potential. CDPR spent years fixing the game, rebuilding its systems, and eventually delivered the Cyberpunk experience many players had originally wanted.

That should have been the beginning of the game's second life.

A new major expansion, a new section of Night City, new characters, new questlines, additional romance options, new vehicles, or new gameplay systems could have kept Cyberpunk 2077 relevant for several more years.

Instead, CDPR's approach seems to have been:

“We finally turned Cyberpunk 2077 into the game it should have been. Now let's move on to the next one.”

With The Witcher 3, the philosophy seems almost the opposite:

“This game is still valuable. Let's keep adding to it, even years later.”

Of course, there are legitimate reasons behind this. Technical limitations, development costs, restructuring, and the long-term plans for Cyberpunk 2 all matter. But from the player's perspective, the result is still the same.

CDPR treats The Witcher 3 not just as a game, but as a long-lasting platform and part of its legacy. Cyberpunk 2077, by comparison, feels more like a stepping stone toward Cyberpunk 2.

And that's particularly disappointing when you consider just how much potential Night City still has.

CDPR had an enormous world in its hands that was still capable of supporting years of new stories.

And perhaps the biggest irony of all is this:

Cyberpunk 2077 reaching its best version could have been the beginning of its second life. Instead, it became the beginning of its end.

Meanwhile, The Witcher 3 is still being kept alive 11 years after its release through new content and new versions.

So the real question isn't whether CDPR cares about the Cyberpunk universe.

The real question is:

Why hasn't CDPR shown Cyberpunk 2077 the same long-term commitment it has shown The Witcher 3?

My Personal Suggestion: A Fifth Corporate War Expansion​

If CDPR ever considers returning to Cyberpunk 2077 for one more major expansion, I would strongly recommend making it about the Fifth Corporate War.

Night City is already built around conflicts between megacorporations, and the lore provides an enormous amount of material that could be explored. A new expansion centered around a new corporate conflict could introduce a completely different side of Night City while still taking advantage of the existing world and systems.

It wouldn't even need to continue V's story directly. CDPR could create a new protagonist, new factions, new fixers, new characters and new areas of Night City, allowing the expansion to tell a fresh story within the Cyberpunk 2077 universe.

Imagine being caught in the middle of a new corporate war between Arasaka, Militech and other corporations, with Night City becoming a battlefield. Add new missions, vehicles, weapons, cyberware, romances and gameplay systems, and CDPR could potentially create another expansion on the scale of Phantom Liberty.

Personally, I believe this would be a much better way to give Cyberpunk 2077 one final major chapter before fully moving on to Cyberpunk 2.

If CDPR ever decides to give Cyberpunk 2077 one more expansion, my personal suggestion would be simple: make it about the Fifth Corporate War.

Night City still has stories left to tell.


If you've made it this far, congratulations — and thank you for reading. 😄
In addition to what others have already said, It's also because TW3 is getting a sequel after 13 years. They need to reignite interest in the franchise.

Also, V's story is done. Finished. What's there to expand?

Fingers crossed they're going to do an Edgerunners 2 update though.

As for TW3, that game was the sort of phenomenon not often repeated. Its expansions are almost absurd in scope, and I don't think we'll see that model again for TW4, CP2077, CP2, or whatever is on the horizon.
Phantom Liberty is about 30 hours long (similar to B&W) so they've already repeated that "Game sized expansion" thing with CP2077 too (Obviously it adds just one new district to Night City, but the amount of content it adds is absurd).
However, they said it's hard to do expansions for the new witcher trilogy (since TW5 and 6 are going to be released within six years after the release of TW4. So maybe we'll see some expansions for TW6?).
I do think it's possible for CP2 to receive expansions as big as B&W and PL, though.
 
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Diğerlerinin zaten söylediklerine ek olarak, bunun bir diğer sebebi de TW3'ün 13 yıl sonra devam oyununa kavuşması. Seriye olan ilgiyi yeniden canlandırmaları gerekiyor.

Ayrıca, V'nin hikayesi bitti. Tamamlandı. Genişletilecek ne var ki?

Yine de Edgerunners 2 güncellemesi yapacaklarını umuyorum.
V’s story is finished, so what is there to expand?” I don’t think that’s a valid argument against making DLC.

The Witcher 3’s main story had already ended for Geralt, yet CDPR still made huge, largely independent adventures like Hearts of Stone, Blood and Wine, and the upcoming Songs of the Past.

Cyberpunk 2077 didn’t have to continue V’s story either. They could have introduced new characters, areas, corporations, gangs, or an entirely new story like the Fifth Corporate War.

I understand the argument that The Witcher 3 is getting additional investment to reignite interest in the franchise before The Witcher 4. However, that doesn’t explain why Cyberpunk 2077 couldn’t have received similar treatment. Cyberpunk 2 is still many years away, so keeping Cyberpunk 2077 and the universe relevant would also make sense from a marketing perspective.

V'nin hikayesi bitmiş olabilir, ancak Night City'nin hikayeleri bitmedi. Bir büyük genişleme daha ömrünü uzatabilir ve Cyberpunk serisini Cyberpunk 2'ye kadar insanların aklında tutabilirdi.

And yeah, I’d definitely welcome an Edgerunners 2 update too. It could be a great way to add new content to Night City without continuing V’s story.

(There may be errors in the English translation.)
 
Overall, it's difficult to discuss at this stage of the game:

1) it's still not that long since the Phantom Liberty DLC and after the surprise with the Witcher DLC announcement (for most of us it came out of nowhere), we can't even 100% rule out a similar surprise for CP during the next 2 years or so. Time will tell. Besides, deciding to focus on working on a sequel isn't really "moving on" for me. In a way a sequel is kinda like a bigger expansion that just takes a bit longer, but that's just my opinion.

2) Witcher 3 is a significantly older game, and there too have been a few years where not much has happened. Besides, due to it's age more work on TW3 is kinda justified (however, I'm still perfectly fine with the original version). Plus, I don't think CP needs a remaster treatment at this point, it's still demanding enough on PCs. Things might change once the next console generation is out, but no clue what is planned and what not.

3) Don't forget that Witcher 3 and CP 2077 are not live service games. The great thing about CP and Witcher (and many other single player games) is you can simply enjoy the story, have a great time and move on whenever you feel like it.

So yeah, let's just wait and see.
 
Overall, it's difficult to discuss at this stage of the game:

1) it's still not that long since the Phantom Liberty DLC and after the surprise with the Witcher DLC announcement (for most of us it came out of nowhere), we can't even 100% rule out a similar surprise for CP during the next 2 years or so. Time will tell. Besides, deciding to focus on working on a sequel isn't really "moving on" for me. In a way a sequel is kinda like a bigger expansion that just takes a bit longer, but that's just my opinion.

2) Witcher 3 is a significantly older game, and there too have been a few years where not much has happened. Besides, due to it's age more work on TW3 is kinda justified (however, I'm still perfectly fine with the original version). Plus, I don't think CP needs a remaster treatment at this point, it's still demanding enough on PCs. Things might change once the next console generation is out, but no clue what is planned and what not.

3) Don't forget that Witcher 3 and CP 2077 are not live service games. The great thing about CP and Witcher (and many other single player games) is you can simply enjoy the story, have a great time and move on whenever you feel like it.

So yeah, let's just wait and see.
I agree with most of your points. I'm not asking for Cyberpunk 2077 to become a live-service game or receive endless DLC.

The Witcher 3 also had long periods without major content. CDPR eventually returned to it with a major expansion more than 10 years after its original release. They didn't support it continuously; they simply kept the door open.

With Cyberpunk 2077, however, CDPR has explicitly said that Phantom Liberty is the game's only planned expansion — in other words, they've effectively closed the door on further expansions. (“This is the only expansion of the game.”)

I also agree that Cyberpunk 2077 doesn't need a remaster right now. That's not what I'm arguing for. I'm talking about new content, not technical upgrades.

And while Cyberpunk 2 will continue the universe, I don't think that's the same as extending Cyberpunk 2077 itself. A sequel is a new game, a new development cycle, and ultimately a different experience — it's not another chapter added to the game we already have.

So I'm not asking for years of DLC or continuous support. I'm simply saying that I wish CDPR had left the possibility open for one final major expansion.

After 2.0 and Phantom Liberty finally brought Cyberpunk 2077 much closer to its full potential, I think Night City deserved that possibility.
 
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With Cyberpunk 2077, however, CDPR has explicitly said that Phantom Liberty is the game's only planned expansion — in other words, they've effectively closed the door on further expansions.
That's not very explicit.

Having nothing planned =/= plans can't change.

CDPR also stated that Blood and Wine was W3's last expansion and that Geralt's story is done forever.

Yet here we are with a new DLC coming.

Nothing is set in stone. Just because something is or isn't planned, doesn't mean things can't change in the future.
 
That's not very explicit.

Having nothing planned =/= plans can't change.

CDPR also stated that Blood and Wine was W3's last expansion and that Geralt's story is done forever.

Yet here we are with a new DLC coming.

Nothing is set in stone. Just because something is or isn't planned, doesn't mean things can't change in the future.
I agree that plans can change. I'm not saying CDPR can never return to Cyberpunk 2077. I'm just saying that, for now, Phantom Liberty is the only planned expansion and the focus has shifted to Cyberpunk 2.

If they change their minds and make another expansion in the future, I'll gladly admit I was wrong. My point is simply that, like with The Witcher 3, I wish they hadn't completely closed the door on that possibility. 🙂
 
My point is simply that, like with The Witcher 3, I wish they hadn't completely closed the door on that possibility. 🙂
And my point is that they QUITE LITERALLY "Closed the door" on W3.

They outright stated that Blood and Wine was the last DLC for the game and then shifted over to W4.

Yet here we are with a new DLC for W3 on the way.

Them "Closing the door" on something is not set in stone. As we can clearly see with W3, which had the exact same scenario occur as with CP2077.
 
Yeah, years ago CDPR also said B&W would be the last expansion.
In this regard it's kinda a similar situation. So yeah, things can still change with time, who knows.

Also: between the last Witcher 3 expansion and the next one are around 10 years... in this time we did not get new content.
Even if the next CP game is the sequel it's likely still a faster release schedule. So yeah, in a way it's a bit of an apples vs oranges situation. I'd rather discuss this when the next cyberpunk release date is announced.
 
Ve demek istediğim şu ki, W3'e kelimenin tam anlamıyla "kapıyı kapattılar".

Blood and Wine'ın oyunun son DLC'si olduğunu açıkça belirttiler ve ardından W4'e geçtiler.

Ama işte karşınızdayız, W3 için yeni bir DLC yolda.

Bir şeye "kapıyı kapatmaları" kesin bir şey değil. Bunu, CP2077'de olduğu gibi aynı senaryonun yaşandığı W3 örneğinde açıkça görebiliyoruz.
V's story being finished doesn't prevent that either. The Witcher 3 proved that CDPR can tell great new stories without continuing the main protagonist's journey.

So I guess all we can do is wait and see. Maybe CDPR will surprise us with one more Cyberpunk 2077 expansion someday. I'd certainly be happy if they did. 😄
 
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