Why did they make the actual sexual content so scarce?

[Cyber.D.G.]

Im ok with censorship. No big deal for me. (Though I do feel, that it's immersion breaking)
But having the quest, in wich you can nail a man to a cross, literally hammering nails into parts of his body... Is ok?
And having naked strippers - not ok?
That feels wierd at the very least.
Where's the logic?

 

[Kikinho]

Probs to avoid some SJW's from starting a party about "how video-games sexualize people".

One of the main themes of Cyberpunk is about how people have grown disconnected from their bodies and how corpos exploit it by sexualizing everything and everyone! There are no taboos in Night City!

 

[Tracido]

First you accuse people who want this content to be teenagers, then you dismiss it when it's proven otherwise.


And I'm sorry. The game has literal dildos, illustrated hardons, visible vaginas, and many other kind of sexual themed props ingame. We already have sex scenes. We don't want actual pron for jerking off. What we want is to expand on what is already in the game.
Remove the superficial censor, and add more scenarios where the whole idea of sex, drugs and rock and roll can be sold to us. Because as things are in the game currently simply feels half arsed/unfinished.

The porno argument is puritan trash carried over from these invaders of my land.. /stopping there

However, the biggest issue is where the largest demographic is. Which to corpo's is the youth sales on consoles.

No one but capitalists cause censorship..

 

[Rddc]

This

Everything regarding the game, except the advertising that preceded it, is scarce.

Here is how the game is listed on the Xbox store as of right now. "Mature 17+, Nudity, Use of Drugs, Blood and Gore, Strong Sexual Content, Strong Language, Intense Violence" and when the game was released, there was more of such content. It was censored in the first couple of patches to the point that we now have guys in full suits dancing in the windows of sex clubs.

 

[Trykz]

First you accuse people who want this content to be teenagers, then you dismiss it when it's proven otherwise.


And I'm sorry. The game has literal dildos, illustrated hardons, visible vaginas, and many other kind of sexual themed props ingame. We already have sex scenes. We don't want actual pron for jerking off. What we want is to expand on what is already in the game.
Remove the superficial censor, and add more scenarios where the whole idea of sex, drugs and rock and roll can be sold to us. Because as things are in the game currently simply feels half arsed/unfinished.

So what was "proven"?

That some people can't be bothered to look into what the ratings system will ACTUALLY ALLOW in a retail video game? That sex toys are "mature items"? Seriously? I dismissed the notion that much more "interactivity" could get through the ratings systems. So there's a TV ad, and a dildo is visible. And lootable as a weapon or whatever. It's not "usable" in any other "visual" way. So in that respect, I don't think my post above actually pertains to you or what you're looking for. Full nudity is doable. And it should be IMHO. Never said otherwise. But many comments on these forums come off as wanting something "more". Like visible penetration and the like. Which ain't gonna happen.

Increasing the number of encounters available? Sure. Expanding on the depth and variety? Absolutely. Totally with you there.

 

[Kikinho]

So what was "proven"?

That some people can't be bothered to look into what the ratings system will ACTUALLY ALLOW in a retail video game? That sex toys are "mature items"? Seriously? I dismissed the notion that much more "interactivity" could get through the ratings systems. So there's a TV ad, and a dildo is visible. And lootable as a weapon or whatever. It's not "usable" in any other "visual" way. So in that respect, I don't think my post above actually pertains to you or what you're looking for. Full nudity is doable. And it should be IMHO. Never said otherwise. But many comments on these forums come off as wanting something "more". Like visible penetration and the like. Which ain't gonna happen.

Increasing the number of encounters available? Sure. Expanding on the depth and variety? Absolutely. Totally with you there.

It was proven that your teenager comment was pointless.

I haven't read anyone asking for actual visible penetration on the whole of this forum. So I am not sure where you are seeing that. And actually there is a plathora of dildos with very extreme shapes and sizes. Definitely not your average props in a mainstream rpg.
And as we know, raitings are arbitrary, varies from region to region. They could easily bypass them by releasing different level of censor in different regions.
But I digress. To get back to what most people really want is to just expand on what is already in the game. Noone is asking for harcore kink porn. I'm sure the mods will take care of that.

 

[Tracido]

So what was "proven"?

That some people can't be bothered to look into what the ratings system will ACTUALLY ALLOW in a retail video game? That sex toys are "mature items"? Seriously? I dismissed the notion that much more "interactivity" could get through the ratings systems. So there's a TV ad, and a dildo is visible. And lootable as a weapon or whatever. It's not "usable" in any other "visual" way. So in that respect, I don't think my post above actually pertains to you or what you're looking for. Full nudity is doable. And it should be IMHO. Never said otherwise. But many comments on these forums come off as wanting something "more". Like visible penetration and the like. Which ain't gonna happen.

Increasing the number of encounters available? Sure. Expanding on the depth and variety? Absolutely. Totally with you there.

Steam is chugging forward with sexuality for indie studios right now, but I do agree, the money investors want is in console markets.

R rated content is fine, but it must be allowed to at least go that far, where it is legally allowed, of course.

Regardless, sexuality can be incorporated without becoming just a exercise in someone's lack of self control, & I'd even say, it shows maturity level to be able to handle direct sexuality in artform but clearly, some don't.

 

[DarkStar66673]

tbh i miss adult content in this game, it wasn´t really advertised what i remember, but i´m sure there was/is more in the game as the stuff they released.

I name it what i miss, u can judge me or not, but if not here, where else should i write it:

- interactions, flirting with any npc´s should be possible in bars/nightclubs/disco
- Romances which are working (at least conversations, little sidemissions)
- i name it and say yes: show visible Penetrations. If not, LET the guys on Nexus or Loverslab use the programm code so that they can create adult stuff if CDPR dont want to touch this ground.

CDPR should be in that case set a flag where in an AAA Title: Story, RPG, Violence, Sex is possible. And i´m pretty sure, i´m not alone with that wish.

And also they need to do something outstanding now to rescue this catastrophal launch of the game -

And pls dont come with "its not a porn game" - i know its not, BUT A GAME can COMBINE ALL, and ITS ABOUT TIME to do so. WE ARE in the 2020´s.

Other thoughts:
Innovations:
imo they have to do something different from other games, atm i dont see anything which isn´t new, which is innovative - tbh, nothing. Jumping high? U can do it in fallout 76, the spider bot (which cant be used outside the story mission) is similar to the drone on ground or on air from Watch Dogs. These 2 are only examples, i can list more.

Story:
The story is weak, its for kiddies - i mean, i had the feeling in some Johnny Missions i´m the Wedding Planer! REALLY? Go on a date with Rogue, she´s in the game 80 or 90 years old, and they behave like kids and wanted to go intimate on a car - seriously? Nobody, is naming this: ROGUE is nearly 100 years old in that game, thats a fact. I really like to know who´s responsible for the story...
only excuse: The story was cut to half because of the release date....

 

[Stvrkside]

In a game with genital customization and where sex was pushed heavily in the marketing, and where sex is a HUGE part of the environment (sex shops, red light districts, strip clubs, prostitutes, EVERYWHERE) there is almost no sexual content in the game.

Yet despite that, the amount of sexual content that you as your avatar can actually engage with is completely bare bones.

It's also pretty bizarre that there are 1000 strip clubs and you can't actually, you know, see any strippers.

Did they wuss out on this aspect or did they just run out of time and couldn't beef it up more?

Think : ⚠Joke ahead⚠
they did it to make it more like real life..

Or maybe getting ur shit fully system operated cyberwared nano frontal carbon Cortex silliconed based guts microgenerated circulatory system
Optically Kiroshied...impact the town libido.

 

[Trykz]

I haven't read anyone asking for actual visible penetration on the whole of this forum.

But many comments on these forums come off as wanting something "more".

There. Hopefully that helps with your reading comprehension. Which is what that comment was pertaining to.

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[Alenheim]

Im ok with censorship. No big deal for me. (Though I do feel, that it's immersion breaking)
But having the quest, in which you can nail a man to a cross, literally hammering nails into parts of his body... Is ok?
And having naked strippers - not ok?
That feels weird at the very least.
Where's the logic?

I know, right!? So baffling.

 

[Kikinho]

There. Hopefully that helps with your reading comprehension. Which is what that comment was pertaining to.

"Come off as". Not sure which one of us needs to improve their reading comprehension then.
But fair, a guy literaly posted after my comment that they wouldn't mind seeing actual penetration. I agree that wouldn't fit into the rating system.

But my statement still stands that the devs could and should do much more with this theme in the game.

 

[Trykz]

But my statement still stands that the devs could and should do much more with this theme in the game.

And I certainly don't disagree.

Truth be told, a LOT of the game needs that kind of depth and attention to detail. But I'm of the opinion that this game can only be salvaged one way:

CDPR should just fix all the engine related bugs and glitches. Optimize and make it playable on all of the promised platforms. And then drop a stripped down dev kit (like Bethesda's Creation Kits for Skyrim and Fallout 4) and let modders have at it. Then move on to a much better, and more fully fleshed out sequel (WITHOUT ANY freakin' movie stars!).

When doing side by side comparisons between the early and more recent trailers, there's simply too much that was revealed in the earlier trailer that likely cannot be implemented/re-added at this point and make any sense at all.

 

[buddhaburna]

I do feel ya, cuz the amount of joytoys are really slim. Also.. no strip dances.. also dissapointing. More romance, more dances! Hell.. there are even porn braindances you can BUY. but.. cant use? lol

 

[Garrison72]

Well there are cutscenes for the sexy bits, which is all I was expecting. What I don't get is why the strippers in Night City are so modest.

 

[Obsidian_Crane]

You indeed can, went back yesterday out of curiosity. There's at least 2, maybe more, windows you can enter through after Judy's quest line. I highly recommend going back there and just looking around at how it looks post quest line compared to before. You can also still pick up things you didn't the first time and there is an iconic weapon in the dolls' dressing room.... which has one of the accessible windows. The window I went through was shuttered but gives you the option to open it, it put me in the main hallway with all the doll rooms a few feet from the holo girl the guys were watching the first time around.
I definitely felt some type of way.

When I say "go back to Clouds" I mean as a customer.

But now I'm going back to see what it looks like with the "happy" ending that I currently have. I can also check the "unhappy" version of the ending of the Clouds storyline (which is what yours sounds like).

 

[Tracido]

I do feel ya, cuz the amount of joytoys are really slim. Also.. no strip dances.. also dissapointing. More romance, more dances! Hell.. there are even porn braindances you can BUY. but.. cant use? lol

I bought those braindances and they didn't auto turn to craftable parts(My crafting perk does this to junk items that you can't use), so I went, wait, was this a cut feature..

 

[AdamTaylor]

I bought those braindances and they didn't auto turn to craftable parts(My crafting perk does this to junk items that you can't use), so I went, wait, was this a cut feature..

Yup. Originally we were supposed to be able to buy and play various Brain Dances. They were just supposed to be cutscenes pretty much. Like hiring a joy toy. Because that's one of the biggest industries in Night City. But they removed it because... reasons...

 

[DeathsDesign17]

Probably same reason why they made many other things scarce.

 

[Hexipoo]

Probably same reason why they made many other things scarce.

Considering that the items are still in the game, just not usable, it's entirely possible we'll still get them eventually.