Why is Bethesda the new standard? They weren't listed at the stock-market, they had private investors, who pushed the games out and didn't care about customers, just their own pockets. Ok, CDPR got them, too. Holding shares big time. But there are working in the company or are related to them (Brother?)... they made their profit with the release. Maybe they didn't care either.
I don't know if B. can recover. (Btw.: I can't remember that Skyrim was such a bugparty). But this is not the point. Compare yourself to the worse, feeling fine because you didn't messed up that much (not sure about that), and you will never come anywhere.
CDPR themselves wanted to release a game polished as RDR2, not Fallout76. We know how that went.
I wasn't setting any standards, that's just my experience with Bethesda games. Also, I wasn't comparing RDR 2 to Cyberpunk 2077 bugwise, I only mentioned that both have performance issues in city areas, performance issue is not strictly a bug. That said, you could have the entire camp bug out for you in chapter 2 in RDR 2 on release and now that's a major bug I would be pissed about and really was when I got it.
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Of course, there might be bugs like that in Cyberpunk but I've never run into anything like that in this game.
That said, I agree with the gist of your comment, not completely, but quite close to it, so a red point's coming for you. BTW, RDR 2 is an amazing game and a technical marvel in some regards, that's an opinion I hold and will always hold about it.
You missed my point in that post though. Yeah, they messed up and yeah, people have the right to voice their frustrations with the game. But all the hate, oh my, people got so blinded by it, it is not even funny anymore. Because at the end of the day, there is a good game here, bugs or no bugs.
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You are right. Difference is that behind bugs, bethesda released an RPG (a poor one compared to previous fallouts, but an RPG after all), as promised, whereas CDPR released a linear adventure game in a poor open world with retarded AI. I think that comparing CP77 and RDR2 bugwise is frankly insulting.
Red dead redemption 2 (even in ps4 base) is a masterpiece. CP is not and it will never be, unfortunately. And not because bugs or the lack thereof, but because of a bad design, bad mechanics, and bad everything except for the story, the characters and the acting.
So, to respond OP: CP goes nowhere. Its going to be a polished unbuggy version of a mediocre game.
If they released because they thought people would share your (very respectable) opinion, they were wrong, as its now obvious.
Completely disagree. Especially with the bit about mediocrity and that it is not going anywhere. If anything, the game has tons upon tons of potential that can be realized with the upcoming DLCs, better yet small tweaks here and there to the existing systems can go a long way as well. So I am not even worried on this front, the post launch support history for the Witcher 3 pretty much lays all those worries aside. I am worried about balance though, very worried, there's no balance in this game as of now and that's the biggest gripe I have with this game. The thing is, arguably no CDPR games managed to deliver on this front, so there's no reason to believe they would with Cyberpunk, sadly.
That said, perhaps the design decisions are simply not your cup of tea and that's okay.
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