I'm re-creating this thread. If you do not have anything productive to add please don't respond to it. I just want to know if the devs can explain why Geralt voluntarily chooses to get arrested skipping any decision the player may of had with accepting the bribe. Geralt was in full control of the situation, you can tell by his sarcasm.
Please do not hijack my thread with things that don't make sense. The proof is in the video. If you think Geralt getting arrested is a consequence when the quest clearly says "Geralt wants to get arrested" then don't respond to this thread please.
POSSIBLE BUG:
I'm in Loc Muinne. I talked and gambled with some nobles. I won the gambling but then Geralt ended up in a fist fight with them. After the fist fight knights of the flaming rose showed up (aren't they supposed to be outside of town only?). I get two dialogue option with the guards in which both result in Geralt VOLUNTARILY getting arrested? Doesn't matter what option I pick?! That is not what I wanted Geralt to do. I wanted him to go into the sewers and we were going to do that.
VIDEO: http://www.justin.tv...ius/b/298396576
The guard said I could bribe him and he would leave, but Geralt just refused and insulted the guard and purposely got arrested.
This is the first time I've seen it where Geralt ignores what the player wants and just chooses his own path.
Dice Poker ---> Winning ----> Fist Fight ---> Geralt Insists on getting Arrested
As soon as I won Dice Poker I lost control over decision making for Geralt.
Please do not hijack my thread with things that don't make sense. The proof is in the video. If you think Geralt getting arrested is a consequence when the quest clearly says "Geralt wants to get arrested" then don't respond to this thread please.
POSSIBLE BUG:
I'm in Loc Muinne. I talked and gambled with some nobles. I won the gambling but then Geralt ended up in a fist fight with them. After the fist fight knights of the flaming rose showed up (aren't they supposed to be outside of town only?). I get two dialogue option with the guards in which both result in Geralt VOLUNTARILY getting arrested? Doesn't matter what option I pick?! That is not what I wanted Geralt to do. I wanted him to go into the sewers and we were going to do that.
VIDEO: http://www.justin.tv...ius/b/298396576
The guard said I could bribe him and he would leave, but Geralt just refused and insulted the guard and purposely got arrested.
This is the first time I've seen it where Geralt ignores what the player wants and just chooses his own path.
Dice Poker ---> Winning ----> Fist Fight ---> Geralt Insists on getting Arrested
As soon as I won Dice Poker I lost control over decision making for Geralt.
You had the answer in the 1st thread but chose to ignore the answers given and even went so far as to insult other users and that is a no-no and will not be tolerated and you may consider this your only verbal warning .
For your "problem" it is not a bug . You chose to stay topside and play dice with the nobles and fistfight instead of searching for and finding a way into the sewers . Therefore the game sees this as wanting to get arrested and this is exactly what happens . This also happened on my first playthrough and my first thought was "?... i guess i should have been looking for a way into the sewers" .
Think not ? try loading an earlier save and this time go to the sewers first .
I will temporarily reopen this thread . But if more of the same continues then it will be locked PERMANENTLY .
Please do not recreate threads that are locked they are locked for a reason . If you want a thread reopened then ask a moderator to do so and also state why you would like it reopened .
For your "problem" it is not a bug . You chose to stay topside and play dice with the nobles and fistfight instead of searching for and finding a way into the sewers . Therefore the game sees this as wanting to get arrested and this is exactly what happens . This also happened on my first playthrough and my first thought was "?... i guess i should have been looking for a way into the sewers" .
Think not ? try loading an earlier save and this time go to the sewers first .
I will temporarily reopen this thread . But if more of the same continues then it will be locked PERMANENTLY .
Please do not recreate threads that are locked they are locked for a reason . If you want a thread reopened then ask a moderator to do so and also state why you would like it reopened .
Maybe I am remembering the quest wrong, but I thought Geralt WANTED to deliberately provoke the guards to go to prison and get to Philippa? The other option being sneak into the sewers as a way into prison. Since you PUBLICLY started a fight, you precluded any sneak option,as playing a dice game publicly is hardly sneaking. You know, consequences and all that. This isn't Oblivion, do anyting you want without repercussions.
This time I must totally agree with you, luzarius:luzarius said:
Let's not hijack this thread, please. He needs a answer to the question, and I'm afraid we cannot give one. Only Devs, maybe
To put it as simply as possible. It's not a bug, or a case of faulty choice option or anything like that.
The conversation is supposed to look like that. The 'to bribe or not to bribe' choice, is in fact, NOT a proper choice. It is a simulation in which Geralt is acting upon a decision YOU made earlier, by choosing to wander around town and get involved with people instead of going down to the sewers right away. You might not have predicted that consequence at that moment, but once you get arrested it's pretty clear.
The choice (getting arrested) is made earlier on and not by picking one precise dialogue option, that's the only difference. Geralt is just carrying it out in a manner that's supposed to feel most realistic and natural.
So, the whole thing is supposed to look like that. A player makes a decision, but the details are determined by Geralt's actions. Complainig about that would be like complaining that you can't choose the sexual positions after you've offered the bath to Triss.
The conversation is supposed to look like that. The 'to bribe or not to bribe' choice, is in fact, NOT a proper choice. It is a simulation in which Geralt is acting upon a decision YOU made earlier, by choosing to wander around town and get involved with people instead of going down to the sewers right away. You might not have predicted that consequence at that moment, but once you get arrested it's pretty clear.
The choice (getting arrested) is made earlier on and not by picking one precise dialogue option, that's the only difference. Geralt is just carrying it out in a manner that's supposed to feel most realistic and natural.
So, the whole thing is supposed to look like that. A player makes a decision, but the details are determined by Geralt's actions. Complainig about that would be like complaining that you can't choose the sexual positions after you've offered the bath to Triss.
This is the first time I've seen this game mechanic. So by exploring you make a decision, interesting.FletIorwetha said:
Mind you I had no idea where the sewers were by this point. I was in the process of trying to find the sewers and exploring, fist fighting & playing dice poker on the way.
I had no idea that exploration automatically means Geralt makes a decision. This is the first time I've seen that after playing games like DA & ME.
Even in the Witcher 1 I've never seen anything like this before.
I happen to be replaying at that same point, where Iorveth has just left me after a conversation in which I agreed to get to Philippa. I had the conversational option of finding the sewers, as Iorveth recommended, or I could have suggested to him I would take another (possibly easier ??) way in, get arrested. In my case I chose the sewers conversation choice. I think that the choice here does resemble a similar game choice in Flotsam, where you decide with Iorveth how to get to the captured elves on the boat. For me, both of these examples of choice adds to the realism and immersion created by this game as you can use brute force, trickery or stealth to achieve your aims. Also, the second choices are presented as your ideas, not just Iorveth telling you to do this thing, choose way 1) or way 2). Furthermore, after Iorveth left, the quest dialogue text popped up and said something like "Find Philippa through the sewers or get arrested by the guards" sorry I can't remember it exactly, but it did tell me that it was still up to me how I was to get to Philippa (I could still change my mind, that's good, I might not have thought it through properly talking to Iorveth). So for me the game is giving me lots of choices, here is my goal, but when and how I decide to achieve it is down to me. As a subtle witcher I would have to try to get arrested incognito if possible, so not too much fighting is good, and just saying please arrest me is impossible, so picking a trivial fight is the obvious way. Since my quest icon is saying I am searching for a way to get to Philippa, and I start chatting with people, it seems a fair assumption that I am looking for a way to get arrested. Well, that's how it seems to me, anyhow, sorry for the length of this, or if I'm stating the obvious, but I hope this helps in some way.
I was looking for the sewer but then Geralt decided he wanted to get arrested instead without consulting the player (THIS IS THE ISSUE). The guard asked for a bribe but instead of me the player choosing to give one or not, Geralt just chooses to get arrested. This is after playing dice poker with the nobles.Sforza-il-Moro said:
This has nothing to do with realism, I just want to choose Geralt's choices like I've been doing for the entire game up to this point.
If Geralt kills guards before the guards confront him, they will not arrest him. You get arrrested either in the scripted manner you encountered or by losing a fight with guards. It is possible that only certain guards will arrest him.
As others have also said, you already made the choice to pursue getting arrested by making yourself conspicuous. It is not any more complicated than that.
As others have also said, you already made the choice to pursue getting arrested by making yourself conspicuous. It is not any more complicated than that.