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username_2064020

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#101
Nov 6, 2013
awsomeman500 said:
since PS4 can "code to the metal", focus on single spec, and better optimization make it superior to even the high end pc versions


does the pc (talking high end) version have extra graphics features then the ps4 will have


can't the ps4 ubersampling to
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I can't even tell if this is supposed to be serious or it's just a parody post.
 
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AserPik

Rookie
#102
Nov 6, 2013
eskiMoe said:
Same here. It's a fantastic game despite the "consolization".
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Should have obviously bought it on Xbox 360 then?
 
eskiMoe

eskiMoe

Mentor
#103
Nov 6, 2013
AserPik said:
Should have obviously bought it on Xbox 360 then?
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Why? The PC version supports 360 controller out of the box. And besides, the PC version has the usual advantages (better graphics, resolution, frame rate etc.)
 
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jjavier

Senior user
#104
Nov 6, 2013
"Cheaper" is a key-word here.

I own a PS2 and I try to keep my PC updated enough to be decent. I have played more games thorugh emulation than I played on the PS2.

Decent means a mid-end GPU (6870 rigth now) and CPU that doesn't become a big bottle neck.

For me, PC is always a better experience. Even with an interface designed for a joypad (I show my age).

You end up spending more, and working more, but if you have some clue, PC gamming give you options other platforms are designed to rip off from you.

If you can spend a some more and are willing to jump through some hops to in pay for options, your best option is PC gamming.
 
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username_2064020

Senior user
#105
Nov 7, 2013
People wouldn't even dare claiming consoles are "far cheaper" if they were any good at math and long term accounting of their money.
 
eskiMoe

eskiMoe

Mentor
#106
Nov 7, 2013
TucoBenedicto said:
People wouldn't even dare claiming consoles are "far cheaper" if they were any good at math and long term accounting of their money.
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Yep. One of the reasons why I prefer PC gaming. Sure the hardware is expensive, but for a reason. It's always state of the art and I rather put my money on proper hardware than overpriced software.
 
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Krisk7

Senior user
#107
Nov 7, 2013
Yes, due to resolution higher than 1080p (no doubt 4K will be possible) and framerate higher than 30 fps (depends on your hardware)
 
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AserPik

Rookie
#108
Nov 7, 2013
eskiMoe said:
Why? The PC version supports 360 controller out of the box. And besides, the PC version has the usual advantages (better graphics, resolution, frame rate etc.)
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I was just confused....

You said it was disappointing it got 'consolized' yet you used a gamepad?

Why you complain man?
 
eskiMoe

eskiMoe

Mentor
#109
Nov 7, 2013
AserPik said:
I was just confused....

You said it was disappointing it got 'consolized' yet you used a gamepad?

Why you complain man?
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When it comes to RPGs I'd rather abandon the comfort of my sofa & TV to play with mouse & keyboard with a proper UI designed solely for that control scheme. I did that for example with Deus Ex:HR. There was plenty of advantages using m&kb compared to a gamepad (with the core gameplay, the inventory management, quickbar items and hacking) but it's not the case with The Witcher 2. Sadly.
 
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Username.

Senior user
#110
Nov 7, 2013
AserPik said:
I was just confused....

You said it was disappointing it got 'consolized' yet you used a gamepad?

Why you complain man?
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He used a gamepad BECAUSE it was consolized.
 
Aver

Aver

Forum veteran
#111
Nov 7, 2013
Sirnaq said:
How many games from your library have you sold? How many multiplayer games are you playing? How many games with high replay value? Reselling games works only for 5 hours movie like trash titles, games with actual value are expensive. Also that's shoddy logic right there, i can also buy pc, play a little and then sell it, and then say "hey pc gaming is cheap!" As a matter of fact used pc parts are quite cheap.
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I don't sell my games (I collect them), but I also don't buy them on sales. I buy most of my games on day one, so I can't relate to selling used copies or saving money during sales, but I know that my friends buy their console games on release and after they beat it or if they didn't like it, they sell it for like 80% of its value, so they actually pay only 20% of game value. They only keep sandbox games like GTA V or Skyrim. But even if you don't sell your games then you can buy used copies. After 3-4 month you will be able to buy average game for 40% of its value on second hand market. It is as good as Steam sales.
 
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SercaNesrin

Senior user
#112
Nov 7, 2013
PC will always be better than consoles as long as you upgrade to high end PC. This is not cheap however. For example, a high end graphics card is about £450 "More expensive than Xbox One" in the UK not to mention the Ultra Performance Graphics Cards such as Radeon HD7990 around £550 or GTX 780TI which are £500 - £600 in the UK.

Therefore, make sure you know what you want first.

If PC upgrading sounds not familiar then I'd suggest you buy a console.
 
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username_2064020

Senior user
#113
Nov 7, 2013
Sercan said:
PC will always be better than consoles as long as you upgrade to high end PC. This is not cheap however.
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PC gaming can be as good (and as pricey) as you want it to be.
You can have a very decent gaming machine for dirty cheap or you can throw big money at it and build an absolute beast.
That's part of what makes it great for enthusiast gamers.

Not to mention how much money you are going to save over the years if you're someone who play a lot of games.
 
sidspyker

sidspyker

Ex-moderator
#114
Nov 7, 2013
TucoBenedicto said:
PC gaming can be as good (and as pricey) as you want it to be.
You can have a very decent gaming machine for dirty cheap or you can throw big money at it and build an absolute beast.
That's part of what makes it great for enthusiast gamers.

Not to mention how much money you are going to save over the years if you're someone who play a lot of games.
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What this man said.

I don't consider myself a mere "gamer" I would say I'm a videogame enthusiast as pretentious as it may sound.... I like playing games but I also like the technology beyond that. The little things.

I guess it may sound like something nerdy, lol but I like it when I see....say for example shooter games moving from hitscan technology which is just positioning and applying damage(layman terms) to projectile, physics based, where each bullet is a physical object in the game and follows the rules of physics, ballistics, over distance it slowly falls towards the ground (Battlefield games).

When NPCs and player act realistically if they crash into an object (RAGE engine euphoria physics).

Bullets hitting kevlar body armour on an opponent, getting crushed and falling to the ground (Max Payne 3).

NPCs reacting to the presence of the player.

Setting an area on fire then watching it react to the wind system and spreading over the ground (Far Cry)

Graphics, Aesthetics, Animation, Design

Seeing the newest lighting technology, shadowing, etc. Seeing what the newest hardware is capable of, what the future holds....it may cost being labelled a 'graphics whore' or something similar but all this is too much for me to give up.

I even watch most of my video content at 60fps.

Do I sound insane yet?
 

Agent_Blue

Guest
#115
Nov 7, 2013
sidspyker said:
What this man said.

I don't consider myself a mere "gamer" I would say I'm a videogame enthusiast as pretentious as it may sound.... I like playing games but I also like the technology beyond that. The little things.

I guess it may sound like something nerdy, lol but I like it when I see....say for example shooter games moving from hitscan technology which is just positioning and applying damage(layman terms) to projectile, physics based, where each bullet is a physical object in the game and follows the rules of physics, ballistics, over distance it slowly falls towards the ground (Battlefield games).

When NPCs and player act realistically if they crash into an object (RAGE engine euphoria physics).

Bullets hitting kevlar body armour on an opponent, getting crushed and falling to the ground (Max Payne 3).

NPCs reacting to the presence of the player.

Setting an area on fire then watching it react to the wind system and spreading over the ground (Far Cry)

Graphics, Aesthetics, Animation, Design

Seeing the newest lighting technology, shadowing, etc. Seeing what the newest hardware is capable of, what the future holds....it may cost being labelled a 'graphics whore' or something similar but all this is too much for me to give up.

I even watch most of my video content at 60fps.

Do I sound insane yet?
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To me you do, as your comment seems to have little to do with the quoted post.
I kid :D

The point you bring is an interesting one and it's part of the case for graphical fidelity, the sitting duck in the perennial target practice that one or two fellow forumers can't help but to indulge in.

As one reviewer put it, were it not for Ryse's misleadingly labelled eye-candy he wouldn't have felt the sort of emotional, gut reaction he did the moment he stepped into that ominous forest. Sure, all the graphical fidelity in the world won't salvage Ryse from the QTE Gorerfest status it seems to aspire to. But that is the by-product of a myriad of design choices, not the inevitable outcome of paying due attention to graphics .

The dialectic between graphical fidelity and gameplay is just fallacious.

From the few examples we've been shown there's little difference between PS4/XBone and PC versions of launch titles, but that might change along the cycle. Perhpas, the gap will widen, perhaps not.

You be a graphics whore all you want. CDProjekt is set to satisfy all your needs.
 
sidspyker

sidspyker

Ex-moderator
#116
Nov 7, 2013
AgentBlue said:
To me you do, as your comment seems to have little to do with the quoted post.
I kid


The point you bring is an interesting one and it's part of the case for graphical fidelity, the sitting duck in the perennial target practice that one or two fellow forumers can't help but to indulge in.

As one reviewer put it, were it not for Ryse's misleadingly labelled eye-candy he wouldn't have felt the sort of emotional, gut reaction he did the moment he stepped into that ominous forest. Sure, all the graphical fidelity in the world won't salvage Ryse from the QTE Gorerfest status it seems to aspire to. But that is the by-product of a myriad of design choices, not the inevitable outcome of paying due attention to graphics .

The dialectic between graphical fidelity and gameplay is just fallacious.

From the few examples we've been shown there's little difference between PS4/XBone and PC versions of launch titles, but that might change along the cycle. Perhpas, the gap will widen, perhaps not.

You be a graphics whore all you want. CDProjekt is set to satisfy all your needs.
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The gap will widen. I'd rather take that part to PM than discuss it here though. That is if you care enough :p

Oh I don't place graphics above gameplay, but I appreciate it when they're exceptional. It's hard to..'separate' them all, one could count physics as graphics because ultimately it's what I'm seeing on my screen, but that wouldn't exactly be what I was referring to.

If all I cared about was visual eyecandy Crysis would've been one of my favourite games(it's not).
 

Agent_Blue

Guest
#117
Nov 7, 2013
sidspyker said:
The gap will widen. I'd rather take that part to PM than discuss it here though. That is if you care enough :p/>/>/>/>/>/>

Oh I don't place graphics above gameplay, but I appreciate it when they're exceptional. It's hard to..'separate' them all, one could count physics as graphics because ultimately it's what I'm seeing on my screen, but that wouldn't exactly be what I was referring to.

If all I cared about was visual eyecandy Crysis would've been one of my favourite games(it's not).
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Nor was I implying you do.
My point is graphical fidelity naysayers are demonstrably wrong in the way they portray gameplay and graphics betterment as mutually exclusive or inversely proportional.

Additionally, why should you care if someone else deems you a graphics whore? You enjoy what you enjoy and that's it. Those who might be inclined to throw judgemental labels have their own agenda for doing so, I'm sure.

However, there is at least one good brave reason to stand behind graphical fidelity around here. Since the forum enlists a number of vocal detractors - and forum members have every right to be detractors of whichever they see fit - CDProjekt might in the future be inclined to pay less attention to it on account of misbelieving that's the consensual take.

There's no reason for being self-concious about it.
Stand proud, open-chested.
 
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Sirnaq

Rookie
#118
Nov 7, 2013
Aver said:
I don't sell my games (I collect them), but I also don't buy them on sales. I buy most of my games on day one, so I can't relate to selling used copies or saving money during sales, but I know that my friends buy their console games on release and after they beat it or if they didn't like it, they sell it for like 80% of its value, so they actually pay only 20% of game value. They only keep sandbox games like GTA V or Skyrim. But even if you don't sell your games then you can buy used copies. After 3-4 month you will be able to buy average game for 40% of its value on second hand market. It is as good as Steam sales.
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http://www.amazon.com/The-Elder-Scrolls-Legendary-Edition-Pc/dp/B00CJ7IUIQ/ref=sr_1_cc_1?s=aps

Lookie there. Skyrim 60$ on consoles, retail pc 39$ and steam version 30$. That's not inluding 85% off during sale.
 

Agent_Blue

Guest
#119
Nov 7, 2013
Sirnaq said:
http://www.amazon.com/The-Elder-Scrolls-Legendary-Edition-Pc/dp/B00CJ7IUIQ/ref=sr_1_cc_1?s=aps

Lookie there. Skyrim 60$ on consoles, retail pc 39$ and steam version 30$. That's not inluding 85% off during sale.
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What?!

XBox 360's is $28.25.

I was hoping for a bias-free discussion. Though I play on PC exclusively I do acknowledge consoles present advantages, namely, convenience and offer exclusive titles such as the forthcoming The Order 1886 and Deep Down, both of which look very promising.

The bang per buck value of consoles is debatable.
 
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Sirnaq

Rookie
#120
Nov 7, 2013
hmh that's legendary edition but even then it's fair comparison, same version on pc is cheaper then on consoles. Another example.

http://www.amazon.com/Darks-Souls-Prepare-PlayStation-3-PS3/dp/B00AJCRYZI/ref=sr_1_4?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1383857680&sr=1-4&keywords=dark+souls

41$ n consoles

http://store.steampowered.com/app/211420/?snr=1_7_7_151_150_1

30 on steam without sale
 
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