Windows 8

[AsTheDeath]

Windows key + typing works for me as well in W7, don't see the advantage of Metro in that aspect? Synd's screenshot looks like MS removed the taskbar and increased the size of the pictograms (meaning less pictograms on your start screen, less efficient). As long as you don't lose the overview, more information on the screen is a good thing in my opinion.

I really don't see any advantages yet... I will revise my original opinion, though, and just say nothing of it until I have tried it myself. At least this looks better than the 'tiles' mess I saw some time ago.

 

[Sirnaq]

You're actually wrong. How is the first picture better than a well organized start menu that has everything you need in the center of your screen instead of going through many columns just to get to a single application. And to make your example more accurate instead of heavily favoring you, let's post the appropriate Metro Star Screen instead of the Apps metro screen
[media]http://i.imgur.com/suQmY.png[/media]

For everything you need you usually have icons on your desktop and you don't need to find anything, metro actually make finding application longer if you don't remember full name of exact application and if you remember then it's still the same as in start menu. Also with classic shell you have option to actually browse your disc without file manager.

For example if program that you want to use is not installed in traditional way there is no way to start it with metro except search option and it's only if you know exact name. Whole that metro thingy is just waste of time.

 

[Aditya]

I seldom use the start menu, mostly desktop icons and win explorer. Also thanks for the info, although I had a bad experience with installing the preview and had to re-formatt and all will wait. Well since upgrading from 7 will cost just around 40& and I get to keep all my stuff without needing to go from scratch seems good to me so far

 

[CostinRaz]

There is a reason Microsoft has a monopoly on the PC OS market. They show that reason with every single one of their releases ( besides Vista ).

 

[gab961111.59]

I'm with Sirnaq on this. Maybe the apps metro sreen is simpler, but i like more the costumisations possibilities of win7. What if we have sub apps in a sub folder and we want it to be there. Sometimes we don't know the name of the file we search but we know where it is.

 

[mrowakus]

There is a reason Microsoft has a monopoly on the PC OS market. They show that reason with every single one of their releases ( besides Vista ).

There's one and only one reason for that... games. Your OS may be shitty as hell but if it can support games people will buy it. That's why even though Linux installs are better than Windows, Windows will prevail.

Let's not forget that beside Windows Vista (which ain't that bad) there were multiple other flops e.g. the disastrous Windows ME, Windows 98 before SE patch etc.

 

[Sirnaq]

There's one and only one reason for that... games. Your OS may be shitty as hell but if it can support games people will buy it. That's why even though Linux installs are better than Windows, Windows will prevail.

Let's not forget that beside Windows Vista (which ain't that bad) there were multiple other flops e.g. the disastrous Windows ME, Windows 98 before SE patch etc.

You know, even windows xp supports games and it's decent system so there is always alternative.

 

[Reod]

You know, even windows xp supports games and it's decent system so there is always alternative.

Nope since xp has a ram memory cap(at least if you want play newest games its a bit of problem)

 

[MrMida]

I don't give a shit about what Valve or Blizzard say. I'm just gonna see what the consumers are gonna say once it's released. But what from what I've seen of it, it looks really overcrowded. If it's gonna be a tablet OS on a PC thing, I'm gonna be sceptical as hell. I won't be upgrading my PC anyway anytime soon. Windows 7 is still doing just fine by me.

 

[pomor]

Meh, Windows XP is still working OK for me. I dont see the reason to go to W7 or Vista, let alone this newfangled thing.

 

[Sirnaq]

Nope since xp has a ram memory cap(at least if you want play newest games its a bit of problem)

Even newest games can use only 4gb ram because 32bit programs, and since optimized windows xp uses only ~250 mb the difference is almost nonexistent.
also there is 64bit version of windows xp
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_XP_Professional_x64_Edition

Only disadvantage that i can think of is directx9.

Anyway windows 7 and windows 8 are the only os with dx11 and win 8 perform better in games among these two therefore win 8 is the best gaming os right now. And it's fine by me. But if micro$oft decide to close platform, the only option is optimised win 7 as directx 11 os goes. Deaum shame that nobody hacked dx11 into winxp yet.

Spoiler

opengl>directx

EDIT:If dx 11 will be ported to linux im instantly changing my os of choice. And one day it will happen.

http://www.zdnet.com/blog/hardware/directx-11-coming-to-linux-games-to-follow-whoa-slow-down-there/9776

additional links
http://blogs.valvesoftware.com/linux/steamd-penguins/

 

[soundcreepy]

well, if you have 7, 8 will be cheap, but i won't bother switching for quite a while

 

[Gilrond-i-Virdan]

I hope these issues will encourage CDPR to port their games to more platforms (i.e. Linux and Mac OSX). Windows 8 is going to be a disaster, that's for sure.

There is a reason Microsoft has a monopoly on the PC OS market. They show that reason with every single one of their releases ( besides Vista ).

Yes, that reason is called OS bundling (i.e. forcing installation of Windows on most sold machines from major OEMs). See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_refund

 

[CostinRaz]

What issues? Windows 8 runs games better then Windows 7, that is a fact.

When I installed it I had no issues. I wasn't particularly fond of the new start menu but eventually I came to like it more then what we had before.

I would like a way to disable the bloody sidebar though.

 

[gregski]

I hope these issues will encourage CDPR to port their games to more platforms (i.e. Linux and Mac OSX). Windows 8 is going to be a disaster, that's for sure.


Yes, that reason is called OS bundling (i.e. forcing installation of Windows on most sold machines from major OEMs). See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_refund

Windows 8 a disaster? Because you say so? Anything to back it up? I'm gonna quote you on that when it fails, you're gonna become the most famous technology analyst of all time.

Of course MS is bundling their OS with OEM PCs, why wouldn't they do that if they can? Why isn't Linux doing it? Oh, wait.

 

[Sirnaq]

I hope these issues will encourage CDPR to port their games to more platforms (i.e. Linux and Mac OSX). Windows 8 is going to be a disaster, that's for sure.


Yes, that reason is called OS bundling (i.e. forcing installation of Windows on most sold machines from major OEMs). See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_refund

Did you even read the thread?
Anyone knows if witcher2 is working on wine? It's using dx9 after all? Witcher 2 is working on wine "as a charm".
http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=23504
http://xexpanderx.deviantart.com/journal/The-Witcher-2-Enhanced-Edition-GOG-on-GNU-Linux-306747442

 

[AsTheDeath]

Well, in all honesty, I don't think Windows is #1 because it's the best. Time and time again people prove that they'll buy whatever is popular/hyped/standard, not the 'best product'. Windows has been the most common OS for a long time now, which means that it's been the most attractive platform to produce software for, which is why it is STILL the most-used OS.

Windows has a lot of points it could improve on, and it looks to me like W8 is too much influenced by the touch-market. W8 for desktops should be built for desktops specifically, it doesn't need to be touch-compatible (of course, because of the Surface, it has to be, but for most customers there's really no advantage). I guess that if it starts to hog less and perform more efficiently than that's a good thing, though.

 

[Sirnaq]

Well, in all honesty, I don't think Windows is #1 because it's the best. Time and time again people prove that they'll buy whatever is popular/hyped/standard, not the 'best product'. Windows has been the most common OS for a long time now, which means that it's been the most attractive platform to produce software for, which is why it is STILL the most-used OS.

Windows has a lot of points it could improve on, and it looks to me like W8 is too much influenced by the touch-market. W8 for desktops should be built for desktops specifically, it doesn't need to be touch-compatible (of course, because of the Surface, it has to be, but for most customers there's really no advantage). I guess that if it starts to hog less and perform more efficiently than that's a good thing, though.

Of course it's not the best os. It's the only decent gaming os tho.

 

[Aditya]

Did you even read the thread?
Anyone knows if witcher2 is working on wine? It's using dx9 after all? Witcher 2 is working on wine "as a charm".
http://appdb.winehq....rsion&iId=23504
http://xexpanderx.de...Linux-306747442

although threads are meant for discussion after all the "heavy talk" you finally answered my question which was my actual intent. So thanks lol

 

[SystemShock7]

There is a reason Microsoft has a monopoly on the PC OS market. They show that reason with every single one of their releases ( besides Vista ).

The reason Windows has a monopoly in the PC market is one of great marketing and timing. Microsoft was the first big software company to license its OS to be installed and sold on inferior, 3rd party consumer hardware, unlike IBM, Sun, or Apple. Apple has always sold its OS on its own hardware, IBM's OS/2 not only was second fiddle to IBM's AIX, and Sun never really got into the consumer market.

It has nothing to do with the quality and functionality of the OS.