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Witcher 3 -also- had a lot of issues. CDPR fixed them. They will this.

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Gillian_Seed

Gillian_Seed

Senior user
#61
Dec 15, 2020
ZPanzerEliteZ said:
I not want to redeemed !I want only to play a good game.I live in truely dystopia country .You know night City is better than my Country. The game it have only Megacorporation but my country have .(Dictator King,Junta,and Megacorporation ) support with Brainwashing people like my mom conflict with Democratic Support people like me we can kill another on anytime because the politic vision






One way to escape this country is escape to another world. game is only way too escape now
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I get it as much as I am able to empathize given that I don't have to share your real world circumstances. Also, I've been very critical about CDPR's handling of the game and the downright paradise they made "Night City" out to be compared to real world dystopias. I know I can't say anything to help but I do sincerely hope something good comes out of this for you because for what it's worth and maybe it's nothing, I do care about your life, your experience and the world you wish to escape from and even though your situation and circumstances are worse than mine, I can empathize because I too wanted to escape from the dystopia I find myself in.

CDPR failed us tremendously and it's not just about bugs and glitches. It goes much deeper. I have been and I will continue to speak out to whatever degree I am able for people like yourself and myself. This is not acceptable on multiple levels.

PERIOD.
 
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adamaj

adamaj

Senior user
#62
Dec 15, 2020
HMorisson said:
There is pretty much nothing to justify calling it an RPG in it.
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The changed it on the official website to "action-adventure" game.
 
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HMorisson

HMorisson

Forum regular
#63
Dec 15, 2020
adamaj said:
The changed it on the official website to "action-adventure" game.
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Yes, after promising us it'd be a full-blown RPG for years, and almost up to release.
As I said: the 11th hour.

Yet another dick move.
 
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black_project

black_project

Fresh user
#64
Dec 15, 2020
Gillian_Seed said:
I get it as much as I am able to empathize given that I don't have to share your real world circumstances. Also, I've been very critical about CDPR's handling of the game and the downright paradise they made "Night City" out to be compared to real world dystopias. I know I can't say anything to help but I do sincerely hope something good comes out of this for you because for what it's worth and maybe it's nothing, I do care about your life, your experience and the world you wish to escape from and even though your situation and circumstances are worse than mine, I can empathize because I too wanted to escape from the dystopia I find myself in.

CDPR failed us tremendously and it's not just about bugs and glitches. It goes much deeper. I have been and I will continue to speak out to whatever degree I am able for people like yourself and myself. This is not acceptable on multiple levels.

PERIOD.
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100% agree. Was expecting a lively Night City and yet we got this... city of broken AI. The final straw for me was during one of the Gig mission, I happened to shot one of the innocent NPC and the game gave me a star. Guess where the cops spawned? from a freaking hallway. It just appears out of nowhere. So I shot the cop and it gave me two stars, then three. Then Max -Tac appears followed with robots and guess what, they flatlined me.

I said before that CDPR could fix this like Witcher 3 for example where they add new alternate movement but you know, after thinking it through, I'm not really sure they can. Or in this case, want to. They can just ignore it and skip to developing CP2077 Multiplayer, their future would-be cash cow.

Fixing a bug where your weapon disappear or story NPC not moving is one thing but this... this is not as simple as adding alternate movement or tag feature on inventory.

God, I hope I'm wrong and I would like to be proven wrong but guess I'll just have to wait and see till their major patch land next year.
 
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Ðarkstar

Ðarkstar

Senior user
#65
Dec 15, 2020
black_project said:
100% agree. Was expecting a lively Night City and yet we got this... city of broken AI. The final straw for me was during one of the Gig mission, I happened to shot one of the innocent NPC and the game gave me a star. Guess where the cops spawned? from a freaking hallway. It just appears out of nowhere. So I shot the cop and it gave me two stars, then three. Then Max -Tac appears followed with robots and guess what, they flatlined me.

I said before that CDPR could fix this like Witcher 3 for example where they add new alternate movement but you know, after thinking it through, I'm not really sure they can. Or in this case, want to. They can just ignore it and skip to developing CP2077 Multiplayer, their future would-be cash cow.

Fixing a bug where your weapon disappear or story NPC not moving is one thing but this... this is not as simple as adding alternate movement or tag feature on inventory.

God, I hope I'm wrong and I would like to be proven wrong but guess I'll just have to wait and see till their major patch land next year.
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I have a feeling you're right. We live in the reality where Coronavirus exists and is still ravaging countries after nearly a year of the outbreak. The same reality where Americans elected Trump. The same reality that had two world wars within a few years of each other. CDPR aren't going to fix this game to match AAA standards. They're most definitely going to fix it so it's "enough" and move on. I see them releasing bad DLC for an incomplete game. I see them failing their next game launch, whatever that may be. They have failed completely and they won't recover from this because they have clearly not learned a damn thing from the past.
 
BabalKabak

BabalKabak

Forum regular
#66
Dec 15, 2020
HMorisson said:
Do I believe they will fix the bugs in time?
They probably will.

Do I believe they will add all the missing content, all the stuff we were told would be in the game?
Sceptical, really sceptical... why was it all cut in the first place?
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This.
 
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Gillian_Seed

Gillian_Seed

Senior user
#67
Dec 15, 2020
black_project said:
100% agree. Was expecting a lively Night City and yet we got this... city of broken AI. The final straw for me was during one of the Gig mission, I happened to shot one of the innocent NPC and the game gave me a star. Guess where the cops spawned? from a freaking hallway. It just appears out of nowhere. So I shot the cop and it gave me two stars, then three. Then Max -Tac appears followed with robots and guess what, they flatlined me.

I said before that CDPR could fix this like Witcher 3 for example where they add new alternate movement but you know, after thinking it through, I'm not really sure they can. Or in this case, want to. They can just ignore it and skip to developing CP2077 Multiplayer, their future would-be cash cow.

Fixing a bug where your weapon disappear or story NPC not moving is one thing but this... this is not as simple as adding alternate movement or tag feature on inventory.

God, I hope I'm wrong and I would like to be proven wrong but guess I'll just have to wait and see till their major patch land next year.
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There's two things I've learned in life that are pretty consistent, the first is that we all have a good chance of being wrong. The second is that it is what it is. Right now a lot of us are in the "damn I didn't want to be right but I saw this coming and I hope I'm wrong about the future but man I don't know" phase and eventually we'll be in the "it is what it is" conclusion. I'm with you, I hope whatever it is when the dust settles ends up being something that impresses even the staunchest of doubters.

It's possible and I've personally experienced it with what Hello Games did and amazingly are still doing with No Mans Sky. Hello Games accomplished something truly herculean as a small indie developer. If there's a will, there's a way. We'll find out how much of a will there is.
 
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kirell

kirell

Senior user
#68
Dec 15, 2020
Love the game. Bugs will be fixed, no performance issues on my old pc (GTX 980, so high quality textures in 1920 is enough for me). I'm 61 hours in, have almost cleared Watson now and a just the first main quest to get Johnny Silverhand. Amazing level design and atmosphere. If expectations for some expected extra content ruins the game for some people, pity for them.
 
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BroNice

BroNice

Fresh user
#69
Dec 15, 2020
CDPR will deliver.
They even redid the entirety of Witcher 1 and had a second launch.
They have a very long breath, and they always listen to their customers.
We just have to be patient ... for another year or so.
I have a wishlist of things that they made me hungry for, like more things
to do in your own home, a lot more visual customization options,
more BDs to explore, more Side Characters for romances, etc. but
I'm sure they will bring all of that in future DLCs.
I'd throw a hundred more eddies on this game if it'd help!
 
KakitaTatsumaru

KakitaTatsumaru

Forum veteran
#70
Dec 15, 2020
Sardukhar said:
I was doing this job then, at Launch. it was fun! The rage was..not small. Not as bad as this, I think, but still.

Here are the patch notes for W3. Quite a few features were added later and there were thousands of fixes. Thousands.

I hope this brings heart to some people. W3 didn't start out clean either and it's amazing now.


Patch Notes - The Witcher 3

The Witcher 3 Wiki Guide: Full Walkthrough, Quest Outcomes, weapons, armor, signs, creatures, maps, alchemy and crafting guides and monster lists
thewitcher3.wiki.fextralife.com thewitcher3.wiki.fextralife.com

Some highlights I remember just driving people -nuts-:

Patch 1.0.4
  • Rebinding of all keys is now available after switching on the ‘Unlock Bindings' option in the Options\Key Bindings submenu.
Ahhhh..some things don't change..

  • Further improvements made in NVIDIA Hairworks performance.

This used to -destroy- systems. It was useless for the longest time. Still not great.

  • Fixes issues related to alt + tabbing and minimizing the game window.
This used to just flat out crash you. Often. Super infuriating.

  • Upgrading items included in gear sets no longer destroys rune sockets on said items.
This was an important change to gearing. And much requested.


Patch 1.05


  • Improves the distribution of experience points gained by completing quests with recommended levels lower than the player character level.
So, this was a huge change. If you had outlevelled an area, it was now XP wise useless to do quests there. Players skipped whole content because it was frustrating and they felt cheated.
  • Fixes an exploit whereby players could buy sea shells and sell the pearls inside them at a higher price.
We see this now, in Cpunk...

  • Geralt no longer interacts with candles placed near chests and other openable objects.
So this was a HUGE fix. It drove people -mental-. You'd just keep flipping the candle on, then off again! Near a chest or a body or whatever. SUPER enraging. Couldn't access it at all. People would run into walls and try from outside...nope. Candle on-candle off. Candle on-candle off! Seems small now, but at the time, the hate was very strong!
  • Vitality begins to drop if Toxicity exceeds 80%, as originally intended.
Whoops. Toxicity? What's that?
  • Fixes a rare issue whereby Geralt could not mount Roach after fast travelling between points.
This was super annoying.
  • Introduces a number of additional fixes to alt + tabbing.
Heh. Still fighting this one at this patch. At least Cpunk is fine.

  • Ciri can no longer unlock fast travel points.
Ahh yes. How to skip ahead. Whoops.


Patch 1.07 (07.18.2015)

  • A new, alternative (optional) movement response mode for Geralt.
This was another huge gameplay change. Default movement for Geralt had somehow passed testing and it SUCKED. Many many many many requests later, and months of work, it FINALLY got fixed! And the game was much better for it! CDPR is stubborn about it to this day, heh.
  • A player stash for storing items, available in various locations throughout the game. Stash locations are marked on the player's map.
That's right! No stash at launch! And for months! Like that item you can't use yet or has some weird relevance to you? Haul it everywhere forever! Thus sucked especially beeeecause:
  • Crafting and alchemy components no longer add to the overall inventory weight.
Yep. HUNDREDS of ingredients. Yeah. Yeaaaaaaah. And no stash. Good times. "CDPR WHY? WHY?" "CDPR why do I have NO WEIGHT LEFT! I can't even carry my own stuff!!!" Etc.

  • Multiple sorting options are now available in the Inventory.
Yep. The inventory for W3 was never great and until July, was in fact terrible! You had to carefully look for everything. Not a bug! A -feature-!

  • Alchemy formulas and crafting diagrams can be "pinned", meaning all components and ingredients required to make them will be conveniently marked in the Shop panel.
Finally we could put away the notepads we had pulled out for months. Not even kidding. Gamefaqs website lost like 70% of their traffic, i think! Yeah.


Patch 1.10 (09.10.2015)


Well, you can read this one. It's huge! The October Patch. Just before the Expansion and MAN had they been working on this one. Hundreds of listed fixes. Hundreds in this one patch alone.


I'm not saying Cpunk doesn't have issues. It does! Major ones! And some very....very weird design decision, to me. Like, penis physics but no barber/face surgeon? In CYBERPUNK? setting-wise, I should be able to walk into a Ripperdoc and get not just a haircut or tattoo, but a whole new face and gender! Weapons? I have 4,000 versions of the Copperhead rifle in so many levels, but I can't get a drink or dance in a bar? Or gamble? Or do drugs? Errr...what?

Still.

Still.

W3 started out with many many many bugs and performance issues and weeks of anger as well. I was there, doing this job. People were upset and mad, and often justifiably so. Many could not play the game, or lost saved or got stuck or were plain baffled by design decisions. Yes, consoles were in better shape, (I have no words for Cpunk base console issues. That sucks and you have my sympathy) but every platform had issues with Witcher 3 launch.

CDPR worked ardently to fix and improve them, and they will here as well.


Oh in case anyone wonders where I've been, Discord and Steam have been loads of fun. You all here are a relatively civilized excerpt. With some exceptions. You have my respect.

Also, yes, I think the game is brilliant and more than I hoped for. I really really do. I love it, as a 30+ year Cyberpunk player and Ref, and as a video game player for even longer.

It's an amazing, epic experience. I hope it works out better in the next few weeks and months and more of you come to love it as I do already.
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I read nothing a re-implementing choices that were removed from the players, and currently the roleplay aspect of the game is my main source of anger, even more as I can still clearly see gameplay about it and read things about it directly from the devs'.
 
black_project

black_project

Fresh user
#71
Dec 15, 2020
Gillian_Seed said:
There's two things I've learned in life that are pretty consistent, the first is that we all have a good chance of being wrong. The second is that it is what it is. Right now a lot of us are in the "damn I didn't want to be right but I saw this coming and I hope I'm wrong about the future but man I don't know" phase and eventually we'll be in the "it is what it is" conclusion. I'm with you, I hope whatever it is when the dust settles ends up being something that impresses even the staunchest of doubters.

It's possible and I've personally experienced it with what Hello Games did and amazingly are still doing with No Mans Sky. Hello Games accomplished something truly herculean as a small indie developer. If there's a will, there's a way. We'll find out how much of a will there is.
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Hope CDPR goes with Hello Games way but as you said, we'll find out soon enough.
 
KakitaTatsumaru

KakitaTatsumaru

Forum veteran
#72
Dec 15, 2020
BroNice said:
I'd throw a hundred more eddies on this game if it'd help!
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Worst thing to say for the future.
 
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SkipDaemon

SkipDaemon

Fresh user
#73
Dec 15, 2020
So many people have missed the point in this thread. Moaning about non functioning AI, cut content blah blah.

They had to release the game and will release new content when it becomes available and ready. Just like they have said for multiplayer which will be released for free to those who have already brought the game.

The bugs and errors will be fixed in time, of which I am sure they sure are working around the clock to improve the master piece they created.

So many people need to grow up and chill. So many forums relating to games are filled with toxic individuals who have no capacity to think beyond their own selfish needs, without an iota knowledge of how difficult it is create something like this. And it seems that this forum is no different. It seems to have far too many people who persist in acting like 2 year old children throwing their toys out the pram when something goes wrong.

There are people who are crying there are no RPG elements what-so-ever? Really, how embarrassing is it to write something like that and all it goes to serve is to highlight how childish and ungrateful people are.

Cyberpunk 2077 is an amazing game and like a fine wine, it will get better over time, of that I am sure and I for one can't wait to see it. Why?

Simply, because I have patients and during this time when the world is in a pandemic and people are losing loved ones in the thousands, there are more things to worry about than your self entitlement.
 
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KakitaTatsumaru

KakitaTatsumaru

Forum veteran
#74
Dec 15, 2020
SkipDaemon said:
So many people have missed the point in this thread. Moaning about non functioning AI, cut content blah blah.

They had to release the game and will release new content when it becomes available and ready. Just like they have said for multiplayer which will be released for free to those who have already brought the game.

The bugs and errors will be fixed in time, of which I am sure they sure are working around the clock to improve the master piece they created.

So many people need to grow up and chill. So many forums relating to games are filled with toxic individuals who have no capacity to think beyond their own selfish needs, without an iota knowledge of how difficult it is create something like this. And it seems that this forum is no different. It seems to have far too many people who persist in acting like 2 year old children throwing their toys out the pram when something goes wrong.

There are people who are crying there are no RPG elements what-so-ever? Really, how embarrassing is it to write something like that and all it goes to serve is to highlight how childish and ungrateful people are.

Cyberpunk 2077 is an amazing game and like a fine wine, it will get better over time, of that I am sure and I for one can't wait to see it. Why?

Simply, because I have patients and during this time when the world is in a pandemic and people are losing loved ones in the thousands, there are more things to worry about than your self entitlement.
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Whataboutism - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org en.wikipedia.org
 
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BroNice

BroNice

Fresh user
#75
Dec 15, 2020
KakitaTatsumaru said:
Worst thing to say for the future.
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I know it's bad in the long run. But It's the truth. I would lie if I said that I'm not ready to pay for more features.
 
black_project

black_project

Fresh user
#76
Dec 15, 2020
KakitaTatsumaru said:

Whataboutism - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org en.wikipedia.org
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Simple and concise, love it.
 
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MojoBreaker

MojoBreaker

Senior user
#77
Dec 15, 2020
i am in minority, who doesn't care or want Multiplayer in this game. Sorry if i offend someone with this statement.
 
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SkipDaemon

SkipDaemon

Fresh user
#78
Dec 15, 2020
MojoBreaker said:
i am in minority, who doesn't care or want Multiplayer in this game. Sorry if i offend someone with this statement.
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It really doesn't matter, that is your personal choice other people think differently. I for one am looking forward to it as long as it is not a MMO like RDR2 and just restricted to a few of your close friends akin to the likes of L4D etc


[...]
 
Gillian_Seed

Gillian_Seed

Senior user
#79
Dec 15, 2020
MojoBreaker said:
i am in minority, who doesn't care or want Multiplayer in this game. Sorry if i offend someone with this statement.
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Honestly I was excited about multiplayer way down the line but that was before I played the game. Even saying that though, I have now realized just how dangerous it is to even being to imagine what multiplayer would even be. As it is right now, the only thing I want is a single player experience that is more fulfilling than expressing my disappointment on a forum day after day for a game I waited 8 years for then put down after 2 days.
 
Swishatiw

Swishatiw

Fresh user
#80
Dec 15, 2020
Absolutely does not matter. They hinted at and promised alot of things before launch. There is so much missing here. That initial cut-scene with a "6 months later" slapped on it is a complete insult. Lifepaths dont matter at all. Insane.
 
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