Witcher 3 - GoG backup for Steam purchases?

[Eldanon]

Witcher 3 - GoG backup for Steam purchases?

Ok, I realize that I might get flamed badly for asking this question. I don't suppose there's been any confirmation whether purchasing TW3 through Steam (or other services besides GOG) gets you a back-up copy on GOG.com similar to TW1 and TW2?

I'm guessing the answer is no and that the free backups of TW1 and TW2 were aimed to be a marketing tool to get people to give GOG.com a try.

The reason I ask is I have several hundred dollars of funds on Steam Wallet and it'd be nice to just use those for TW3 purchase but I don't want to miss out on the likely goodies of GOG.com.

You can now tell me that I'm endorsing evil for using Steam and I realize that CDPR gets a bigger share of the purchase price from GOG.com as well.

Thanks!

 

[Kodaemon5924]

You are endorsing evil for using Steam even though you realize that CDPR gets a bigger share of the purchase price from GOG.com

In all honesty - I hope they don't do the free GOG backup thing. They're not a charity. Though what the hell do I know, maybe their models show that it's actually profitable, in that case, I have nothing against it.

 

[ReptilePZ]

I honestly think they should keep that system going for TW franchise because it's almost like a tradition now. However, they probably ought to stop the practice once they move on to CP2077 (unless it actually makes sense for them to keep it going from a business standpoint).

 

[alextyc1]

You are endorsing evil for using Steam even though you realize that CDPR gets a bigger share of the purchase price from GOG.com />/>/>

In all honesty - I hope they don't do the free GOG backup thing. They're not a charity. Though what the hell do I know, maybe their models show that it's actually profitable, in that case, I have nothing against it.

Nothing wrong with that,even uplay(origin too?) gives an option to download the game in its digital form if you purchased it in a physical form(i think it works with every game on uplay)

 

[Eldanon]

Nice thing about buying TW3 on Steam is then I can recommend it (which becomes visible to friends) plus a bunch of friends can notice that I'm playing the game and I bet overall, quite a few of sales will be made when friends notice friends playing TW3 for insane amount of hours. That will likely peak the curiosity enough to check out the game for some people.

Yeah, yeah, justifying evil, I know =)

 

[Eri94_user70]

Ciriously, i fail to comprehend how can someone who uses Steam, be happy with it and all its restrictions. First of all, it is the arch-demon, the patriarch of all DRM systems. It was created to DRM Half-life 2, initially. It requires you to be online. You do not own the game's data yourself, instead you download them partly. And those are only but a few annoyances, of the many it struggles to offer to its users...

GoG is 150% DRM free, gives you not only complete games' data, but also the authorization to burn them, use them however you like (excluding piracy and freesharing, normally), a ton of digital goodies and many other things. How can someone choose the lesser evil instead a greater good, is so beyond me. But then again, not having tried it, not having a comparison ruler between those two services, explains much. I have tried Steam, and i regretted it. If only some high quality games weren't exclusively for Steam, i would have never bothered to buy them. And again, those are counted in one hand's fingers (amazing games that get only Steam release), thankfully. Instead, GoG is CRAMMED FULL of amazing games, served on a silver plate called freedom (to use them however it pleases you) and adored with golden filigree (all the cool extras, patches, updates, support).

If you prefer to pay more in order to get less, and if you actually enjoy purchasing your own "slavery" (as a gamer, as the services you are going to receive), then it should be respected, as anyone's opinion, desire and mindset. But still...

 

[Eldanon]

Well, the way it works is it appears most people that bash Steam are either badly misinformed or haven't used it in years. Every single game I've tried (including HL2) works perfectly fine in Offline mode. I don't need to be online to play any of my games except for the multiplayer ones. We've had a nice long debate about the evilness of DRM recently so I'd rather not get into it again but I did want to dispel the perception that you need to be online to play Steam games.

So I don't see a single annoyance with Steam except for the fact that GOG gives CDPR a bigger share of the purchase price (which I like) and the little extras on GOG. However, considering I've got literally hundreds of dollars in my Steam wallet, it'd be nice to use that... it'll be a while before I find enough games to use it all up. I suppose you can say Steam is evil for not letting me cash out my Steam wallet =)

 

[Eri94_user70]

Well, the way it works is it appears most people that bash Steam are either badly misinformed or haven't used it in years. Every single game I've tried (including HL2) works perfectly fine in Offline mode. I don't need to be online to play any of my games except for the multiplayer ones. We've had a nice long debate about the evilness of DRM recently so I'd rather not get into it again but I did want to dispel the perception that you need to be online to play Steam games.

So I don't see a single annoyance with Steam except for the fact that GOG gives CDPR a bigger share of the purchase price (which I like) and the little extras on GOG. However, considering I've got literally hundreds of dollars in my Steam wallet, it'd be nice to use that... it'll be a while before I find enough games to use it all up. I suppose you can say Steam is evil for not letting me cash out my Steam wallet =)

Exactly! Cross Gabe Nawell's palms with *silver*! No mistakes admitted after walking away from the cash register! GoG at least is willing to talk refund business...

About years past though, and long time-no use, you are right. And that is going to remain as is. When a service bashes your own rights as a consumer or intellect, dignity and self-esteem as human being, especially if you paid adequately in order to use it, is reason enough to purge said service into oblivion thereafter! No mistakes admitted after walking away from the cash register, remember? Amends or alluring corrections in future regardless. This works two ways, the storekeeper is not the only wise guy in the story!

 

[Eldanon]

It's not refunds... I didn't put the money in to begin with. It's from selling digital items. So if anything, they're lining my palms by allowing me to sell digital pixels to crazy people for a lot of store credit =) I'd prefer it if it was cash, sure but I'd say it's still nice of them to let me sell my digital goodies in the first place.

Also, its no different than almost all retailers I've ever dealt with. Very few brick & mortar places are willing to give you refunds on games you've opened. I don't see why it's not ok for Steam to not give refunds on games you've bought.

Steam wallet is like a gift card. Tell me how many stores allow you to bring in their gift cards and will exchange them for cash? =)

 

[Gilrond-i-Virdan]

You should better ask Steam if they are going to give you a free copy if you first buy it on GOG

 

[secondchildren]

Actually I like Steam and I have many games on it, so I'm for the pure evil, since I'm an evil person myself LOL

Regarding the backup copy, I think it's possible they'll release later, like they did for TW1 and 2. With TW3 Enhanced Edition maybe, who knows. Later, not to lose the money explosion by the first release. Or it would be a charity company, like Kodaemon said.

I think...

 

[Gilrond-i-Virdan]

I don't think it's a charity. If you bought the game on one service, you already own it. Another service adds nothing to the ownership, so why should you pay for it? The only reason that this can be questionable, is that each service has expenses, and selling games covers their operational costs (hosting, customer support and etc.). So there is some reason not to do that from the service perspective. However if there are other benefits, services can cooperate to allow such accounts merging. For example I'd like to see GOG and Humble Bundle cooperation in such form (I don't care about Steam).

It's not proper to call it a "backup copy" I think. It's more of a shared account between services.

 

[daddy300]

It's unnecessary. Last time they used it only to promote GOG nothing else. From business point of view they shouldn't do it at all with TW3, at least wait for 6-12 months when sales are the highest. They have to earn enough money to cover costs of production first then they can exploit other options. Knowing game will be available on consoles as well giving away free copy on PC isn't smart. I am sure they doubled the sale target of TW3 to something around 4 million of total sales.

 

[Gilrond-i-Virdan]

You mean it's normal to charge twice for the same game just because it's for a different operating system? I don't think it's normal. Charging because of a different service makes sense from the service perspective - service has its expenses. And even there the price can be reduced if you already own the game. I.e. you pay to the service for their additional channel of delivery. From developers perspective charging the same customer twice is not reasonable, it's just greed already.

There are some more complex cases. For example Armikrog announced, that their backers get all PC versions (Linux, Mac OSX and Windows), but not the WiiU version, or they can get the WiiU version but not the PC versions. It's because they have to pay a fee for each WiiU game distributed, and if users don't actually need it, it will be taxing for the developers.

 

[tommy5761]

Well each user is entitled to get Witcher 3 from whatever digital distribution they feel comfortable with . I won`t hold any grudges from wherever they buy it . As long as they buy it then all is good .

Nothing is known at the moment whether there will be backup copies for Witcher 3 but i`m sure that at some point in the future it will be known one way or the other .

 

[Username.]

They should give a Steam backup copy for those of us that plan on getting this from GOG, not the other way around.

 

[hajalie24]

I think they will. I mean it pretty much gives people incentive to use the GOG service, but if the game couldn't be activated there wouldn't be a reason to visit the site. And if it is only on GOG and nothing else (which I highly doubt) then people will likely buy the disc version and activate it on GOG, so they'll still have cuts.

Even if they don't let you activate it on GOG things shouldn't be different, you can get all the goodies from the steam version as well.

 

[volsung]

CDPR has been outspoken against DRM before and they should not encourage people to buy a DRM'ed version of their game. At least that's what I think.

 

[GamaH]

They should give a Steam backup copy for those of us that plan on getting this from GOG, not the other way around.

My thoughts exactly. They should do it such that if you buy it from GoG, they give you a Steam Redemption Key too.

 

[daddy300]

My thoughts exactly. They should do it such that if you buy it from GoG, they give you a Steam Redemption Key too. />/>/>

When you buy Witcher game from GOG. Both CDPR and GOG keep all the money and probably split between each other. If they had to give away some sort of "key" which would work on Steam they would have to pay Valve some royalties for each copy, which defeats the point!

Valve wouldn't agree since no one would choose Steam as first place to order future CDPR games if they you could own 2 copies of the game and their profits were cut down. Let's say they will sell in total 1 million TW3 copies on Steam In first 2 years. Now think how much money is Valve taking from every sold copy, 10,20,30%? more?

I don't think they will allow CDPR to do such a thing and just give away 1-2 million steam copies of the game for free.