Witcher 3 Graphics

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Oh wow. Skellige is absolutely gorgeous.

Made some shot for shot comparisons of some debut trailer areas from Skellige, such as the tavern, some vistas..and I have to say in terms of things like textures, lighting, foliage quality (yes, even foliage quality) it looks just as good if not better.


Take note, because I think the ONE thing that, were it improved, would make the biggest difference, is the particle effects/volumetric effects.

-The blood is a particle based system that was toned down

-The water splash effect that everyone hates used to be a better particle based effect that was toned down.

-The rain and snow, particle effect based systems, were toned down to the point where rain looks extremely off and many snow effects are just white hexagons, both
of which fall in strange uniform diagonal lines, whereas in the debut trailer the flurries of rain and snow looked incredibly natural.

-The fire effects have been made lower resolution/lower framerate/plus lower amount of particles in general, especially the smoke. It used to be a volumetric effect but now the smoke in this game seems to be a cheap 2D layered version.

-Volumetric clouds and smoke have been completely scrapped. Clouds that swirl around mountains are all but completely gone and replaced by a height based haze or smog effect, explosions from bombs have been toned down to the point where the smoke and debris is not only volumetric, but doesn't react to the environment at all. And even if the bomb explodes in mid air, the same debris effect occurs, with the debris leveling off in the air where the effect deems the ground should be.


I know that this is the part that makes the biggest difference, because when I am standing in a landlocked zone on Skellige with all the fauna and tress and whatnot, it looks SPECTACULAR. Only when the above possible factors come into play does it really become noticeably worse in my opinion.

Anyone agree?

I know some o the devs were looking into ways to "make it up" to PC gamers. They acknowledged that some people bought it based on 2013 standards and whatnot. Well, I think if they choose anything to "revert" back to those standards, these particle effects should be...well..that.

Hopefully this gets the attention of some of the devs, maybe @Marcin Momot whom I have just shamelessly mentioned. No reason to hide it. Just hope that those who can make a difference have every opportunity to..well..you get it. Wish y'all the best!

Reading this just makes me very, very sad.
 
Hello, Thread Goers.

It is I, Sard. Of course you know I love you.

I have edited your posts and begun THE BANNING.

Learn to be civil.

Don't start with the lying talk.

Don't start with platform wars.

These things tire me and when I'm tired, my response is to seek..silence.

Generally, we treat this thread as the place where people go to lose perspective. You may be assured others do as well.

You are, however, still held to The Rules. In short, that means, Be Nice. Don't SPam your viewpoint. Be Constructive.

You may complain about yoru freedom of speech- it will be ignored. You may rant in public - it will get you chopped from the forums. I will Pony your posts and make you go away if you break the Rules or are just a jerk.

All that said, have a lovely weekend.
 
And if you read, they also say that developing on pc FIRST can only make the game as ambitious as they want it to be.
You know? Ambitious, like the Witcher 3 in its previous trailers? But then it PLATFORM WARS?


You clearly didnt read the whole thing if thats all you took from it , again they dont have the man power to dedicate themselves to 3 platforms , to make the game the best it could be for them they had to focus on the platform they are most familiar with , which is the PC.
 
It isn't supposed to! Don't give up. The devs are doing their best to make this the best experience for all gamers, and they haven't stopped yet, even after release.

They can only do so much man, and we will never see those graphics from 2014. What would be the point in trying to get us much better graphics after they downgraded? Modders are our only hope, they should hurry up with redkit if they wanna make things good.
Besides...this thread has almost 200 pages and no response from CDPR whatsoever? They still ignore us.

Edit: The Division has already received a downgrade, its from an suspicious source, but its the same source that told us Witcher 3 will be downgraded:
http://whatifgaming.com/the-division-developer-insider-we-already-downgraded-a-few-things
 
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A lot of the people claiming that CDPR are putting the PC last are completely ignoring the fact that their claim is based entirely on their own individual opinion. Many people are failing to consider the countless other PC gamers out there. just because CDPR did not check every last check box on your "perfect PC game developer" list does not mean that they don't care about PC Gamers at all. in fact most of the complaints I have seen on these forums come from a minority when you take into consideration he hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of PC gamers out there who are happy with the product in its current state.

case and point this poll http://forums.cdprojektred.com/thre...rsion-with-enhanced-gfx-as-show-in-old-videos

Note that there are only 54 votes and while that may not include everyone on this thread, that is still a very small number of individuals for an entire company to cater their game to. If you can forget the console vs pc war and consider everyone equal as a gamer, and then look at how CDPR have decided to make the game as good as it could be for as many gamers as they could. Is that not something to commend?

Sure a few PC Gamers are not going to be happy but there are hundreds of thousands of other PC Gamers out there who are happy with what CDPR have given them. The fact that CDPR still listen and put out small improvements based on the feedback of this community is evidence of how much they care, especially when you compare the number of people on this thread to the sales figures.

yes the graphics are different but a lot of the comparisons I see claiming that the models have been downgraded when in fact the model has been completely changed. when a model or area is completely overhauled it is not an objective downgraded but a subjective opinion. Yes to some people the lighting is subjectively worse. But to claim that Gamers who think the current lighting is better(or as good) are blind is an insult to the Gaming community. it doesn't matter if they have a Masters in fine art or if they haven't finished high school everyone's opinion is valid to them and it is not your place to take that away from them. I am not saying that this thread does not have a place because it does. Even me claiming that the downgrade comments are subjective does not make me right about that.

The argument that PC Gamers are what made CDPR the company they are today does not work because it is assuming that every PC Gamer who played the Witcher 1&2 agree with you, when in fact a lot of people do not. my last thought for now is that if you have a product that is being used by 2 million people, is it not in the best interest of your audience for you to make it the best it could be for as many people as you can. And yes that includes PC Gamers even the more visually cognizant of us, but that doesn't take away from the validity of those of us who disagree.

P.S. came for the arguments stayed for the Sardukhar edits.
 
No , Im quite 'ok' with it , its only when I look at the water , I go , well that needed some tessellation , I look at fire and go , there needs to be some soft particles. I look at some out of place weird janky textures and go , damn some talented modder needs to fix this and I'll donate to him. Forgot to mention the lighting is really eh, but hopefully that gets fixed.

Nice. Yeah when i look at the water, i think wow, these are some amazing shades of blue (use a desaturated profile), i look at the fire and go, wow, that's super realistic and better than we've ever seen in any game before (use a desaturated profile), the textures, yeah. but the story keeps getting there first and wont let me be upset with the textures. It makes up for console. The lighting i have already fixed!!!! Could be better sure, but what im playing is perfect in my eyes (sure it took ~20 hours of play tweaking), so for me its being picky.

Sorry i just looked at those screenshots and all i could think was.. yeah if mine looked like that id be fuming too. :p

Random, if any graphics thread regulars can confirm the 1.05 patch is okay? I've got no problems with 1.04, and don't think i would choose a further lod nerf than what happened last patch.
 
Random, if any graphics thread regulars can confirm the 1.05 patch is okay? I've got no problems with 1.04, and don't think i would choose a further lod nerf than what happened last patch.

I haven't noticed any lod changes but I am also running at a higher lod setting on my user.settings file. one important thing to note about the 1.05 patch is that the Debug Console Mod doesn't work with it last I checked.
 
Every time i walk pass an NPS and he spits, curses or snorts his nose ! I think of hugging the game creators for their




Subliminal sexual dialouges, vulgarity as its most poor and stupid level !


I dont think that people in real life spit as you walk by them - or maybe thats the life and world of the game creators - SLAVES ! And they wanted to show how they are being treated by the people around them !
 
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Wellup, more BANNINGS, EDITINGS and some Ponies. So pretty.

Again.

No Platform Wars. I dooooon't care if you think your precious platform, whatever it is, is being maligned. It just brings whole threads into Craptown.

Downgrade talk is tiresome and done. Contribute something new. Been there, done that, no longer interested in the ire or viciousness it seems to bring out.

Disregarding mod instructions is a one-way trip to the boy's bathroom, where all the cool kids hang out...away from the rest of us. Wow, that went to a high school place...ANYWAY.

You cna complain about the graphics, or talk about how much you love them or anything in between but DON'T REPEAT YOURSELF, (unless you can do it in some new way or add some humour or basically NOT participate in a flamewar) and DON'T TALK DOWN TO OTHERS. That's my job and I get reaaaaly jealous. High school again?! I need to see my therapist...

I may not always be here to check stuff...but I can look at foum posts and scroll back a few pages and fix it, ( or you!) later...

ONWARDS.

Edit: @vesemas228 1.05 seems to work well on my AMD system..so far...but there have been a host of people with issues. Check th Tech Support section. It's kind of a crapshoot.

I'm giving serious thought to have two Witcher 3 installations onboard: 1 for patch testing and one to play that's stable.
 
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Every time i walk pass an NPS and he spits, curses or snorts his nose ! I think of hugging the game creators for love! I DO THAT.
Subliminal sexual dialouges, vulgarity as its most poor and stupid level !


I dont think that people in real life spit as you walk by them - or maybe thats the life and world of the game creators - SLAVES ! And they wanted to show how they are being treated by the people around them !

the game is set in the Middle Ages
It's hard to understand?
 
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I have sexual issues and I want to share them with everyone. HERES MY POST ON SAME.

Your Role playing as a Witcher. People in the game distrust Witcher due they think they are greedy, emotionless and killing machines. Also the peasant in the game are illiterate and they worship a religion that's wants to kill any mage and magical creature in the game.

Yes in real life this behavior still exist racism, sexism and prejudice.

If you don't want to play this game due it too mature for you. Don't play it!!
 
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how do you guys take screenshots without the hud? i find it tiring to turn hud off one by one before taking a screen shot ( the console commands are disabled in 1.05 i heard )

Any news about the cutscene lighting implementation? it made the game look like the 35 min demo

PS- off topic, is there going to be any performance increasing patches/drivers?

PPS - i hate ponies :teeth:, can you use pokemon instead?
 
PS- off topic, is there going to be any performance increasing patches/drivers?

PPS - i hate ponies :teeth:, can you use pokemon instead?


PS No idea. I got an increase from the new AMD drivers, but also some flickering with the new mipmaps. I think performance increases are most likely from GPU guys.

PPS: Yeah, I kind of hate them too. Nearly everyone hates the Pretty Ponies. That's why it amuses me to use them. Also, totally utterly silly.
 
Just a quick invitation to try my wonderfully desaturated profile again. I've updated it to final and it blows me away every time i go in to play, at all times of day. I think it matches the tone of the stories and lore witcher really well.

https://sfx.thelazy.net/games/preset/3742/ The screenshots are a bit off.. in the game you don't seem to notice how dry it is (weather permitting).

Also pro tip: it takes about 1-2 mins for your eyes to adjust to the different color levels when going from something like mine to world of warcraft. When you first load it up its quite dramatic. If you let my color idea sink in for a bit though, the same effect does happen when you put your saturated one back :)

There's seems to be many many more presets for w3 (seems we're not alone in wanting to fix it) and if you like your rainbow happy elwynn flower witching, i just took this one for a spin and it looks like one of the better ones.

https://sfx.thelazy.net/games/preset/3760/
 
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Adam Badowski said in the interview with Eurogamer they had to rewrite the rendering engine midway through development. This was when they decided to make the game much bigger, or maybe when they got the console dev kits, but clearly lighting took a major hit. Just look at the xbox version of TW2 for instance - lighting is nowhere near as good as either previous Witcher game. Those toasters just can't handle it. When they said they were already pushing the new consoles to the limit, they clearly meant it. Kind of pathetic that next gen is already being tested to the limits by developers this early..

I'd rather have it be twice smaller but with all the promised graphics than bloated world with mediocre visuals.

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This one was taken with only lumasharpening enabled and all vanilla settings maxed out with ingame sharpening on low
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9:50 A.M. Jesus, that's how 4 p.m. would look around here and pretty much everywhere. That's not morning sun and lighting at all.

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[Sard Edit: Did I NOT JUST SAY cut out the Platform Wars? I did. Siiigh. Haaaaave a Pony and a break.]

 
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So let me SUM UP:

Platform Wars:

It's okay to talk about limitations due to hardware. Or software. Advantages of each platform. Etc. Do it politely.

It is NOT okay to start anything that leads to a flamewar. You should -know- what those phrases and ideas are, but in brief:

Suggesting your platform is just "better" without being specific. Politely specific at that.

Suggesting the other guys platform is "worse" without being specific. Politely specific at that.

Suggesting that your platform -should- be the desired platform for all, including CDPR.

Suggesting or even hinting that those who disagree are obviously fools.

All or any of the above lead to flamewars, bad feelings and reports to mods. Which draw us here. Then we review who's been acting poorly and start coming down hard.

Totally avoidable: Just don't start Platform Wars or Downgrade Battles or Lying Sprees. Be civil, be constructive and be in some way interesting to read. That's it.
 
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