Imagine Ciri being polished and brushed up, ready to parade on a catwalk. She wouldn't be believable anymore.
I'm also glad they've ditched the heels on her boots. That couldn't have been functional in TW3.
Imagine Ciri being polished and brushed up, ready to parade on a catwalk. She wouldn't be believable anymore.
I'm also glad they've ditched the heels on her boots. That couldn't have been functional in TW3.
That's essentially it.
If she was in some revealing outfit, we wouldn't be hearing any talk of her now being ugly. Nothing about her outfit in TW3 was practical for someone who will fight every kind of supernatural beings and regular human. High heels would be terrible for movement, a thin leather corset with a largely opened shirt offer zero protection against anything.
What she's wearing in the trailer is far more fitting for someone like her but it's not titillating enough for some men, so we get complaints that she's ugly now.
We saw the same complaints when the stereotypical chain bikinis of old started disappearing. Women were now ugly in video games! It's just the normal cycle of change I guess.
On top of her being gorgeous as is, after seeing some of the "fixed edits" and comparisons, I can safely say that I saw what makes them clap, their boos mean nothing.
Come to think of it. That takes me back to that one quest in TW3, where Roche rebukes Ves for charging shirt open, without a breastplate, during an assault.
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i think she looked great in tw3 and she looks great now, but i totally agree that her armour/outfit is a vast improvement in the trailer. Seeing her wearing such high heeled boots in TW3 was really wtf lol. She looked stylish and cute but I couldn't stop thinking about how a heel like that would be so annoying if you're a monster hunter, or on the run from the wild hunt
like I know the game is fantasy so it doesn't have to be totally realistic all the time (Triss' dlc outfit when she's in the sewers trying to hide......lmao) but it could have at least been a bit more equal. Where were Geralt's booty shorts and v-neck shirts huh???
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i think she looked great in tw3 and she looks great now, but i totally agree that her armour/outfit is a vast improvement in the trailer. Seeing her wearing such high heeled boots in TW3 was really wtf lol. She looked stylish and cute but I couldn't stop thinking about how a heel like that would be so annoying if you're a monster hunter, or on the run from the wild hunt
like I know the game is fantasy so it doesn't have to be totally realistic all the time (Triss' dlc outfit when she's in the sewers trying to hide......lmao) but it could have at least been a bit more equal. Where were Geralt's booty shorts and v-neck shirts huh???[Edited for tone - SigilFey]
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You didn't get it, neither Vernon... It's a combat trick!
Ves is able to beat enemies while they're distracted focusing on her breast! I mean, come on, it's so obvious
The thing I like about her new fit is the gambeson-like thing under more armored parts - not just its existence, but that it also tailored to her. It looks both functional and really cool.
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The booty shorts would have been great for Geralt's underwear. I could never stand the sight of him in those huge white shorts.
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Until some of the opponents are more interested in men, then it's a riskYou didn't get it, neither Vernon... It's a combat trick!
Ves is able to beat enemies while they're distracted focusing on her breast! I mean, come on, it's so obvious
Personally, I am all against trying to fit the whole point of romancing in someone's type. Altghough I was hoping that The Witcher 4 would allow to create own character (and would be awesome if it even wuldn't have to be a witcher, but that would be probably wishing too much), I am really okay about Ciri being chosen as she is giving potential for quite a lot of freedom.
But before i get deeper - I am aware of the fact that not everyone likes 'romances', not everyone enjoys 'nudity' in games, and not everyone wants to see characters having sex. I am alright with people calling it 'porn' thrown into a game or whatever. 99.95% of games on the market don;t have these things, you guys really have plenty of choices if it's not your thing. Let such an optional thing be done well and without unnecessarily candy/flowers for children to appease haters.
As a female player my dream situation is realism of the world towards the heroine without creating a complete fairy tale. In a perfect scenario:
- I want some men to be handsome, some to be ugly, some young, some old. Some dwarves, elves, humans
- I want some men to be able to genuinely fall in with my heroine but I want some men to try to deceive me, take advantage of me and use sex in instrumental way. I want it to be an actual dillema to decide when if ever or to whom I should 'open my legs'.
- I want sex and love to go hand in hand in some cases while completely be foreign beings in other ones.
And I want to underline that it doesn't have to actually be about putting penises and vaginas at every corner. Many things can be implied by movements, positioning even dialogues only to some extend - I mean you guys are great at such things anyway.
The whole point is that the universum created have a lot of sexism, superstitions and such and sex is often spilling from many places - and I want the heroine to be part of it and not be magcially protected from the darker aspects. And that should definitely include romances.
But before i get deeper - I am aware of the fact that not everyone likes 'romances', not everyone enjoys 'nudity' in games, and not everyone wants to see characters having sex. I am alright with people calling it 'porn' thrown into a game or whatever. 99.95% of games on the market don;t have these things, you guys really have plenty of choices if it's not your thing. Let such an optional thing be done well and without unnecessarily candy/flowers for children to appease haters.
As a female player my dream situation is realism of the world towards the heroine without creating a complete fairy tale. In a perfect scenario:
- I want some men to be handsome, some to be ugly, some young, some old. Some dwarves, elves, humans
- I want some men to be able to genuinely fall in with my heroine but I want some men to try to deceive me, take advantage of me and use sex in instrumental way. I want it to be an actual dillema to decide when if ever or to whom I should 'open my legs'.
- I want sex and love to go hand in hand in some cases while completely be foreign beings in other ones.
And I want to underline that it doesn't have to actually be about putting penises and vaginas at every corner. Many things can be implied by movements, positioning even dialogues only to some extend - I mean you guys are great at such things anyway.
The whole point is that the universum created have a lot of sexism, superstitions and such and sex is often spilling from many places - and I want the heroine to be part of it and not be magcially protected from the darker aspects. And that should definitely include romances.
I don't ever romance characters in games according to my real life preferences. I romance them according to the character I've built. Honestly, I don't really like romances in games, for the most part, as they usually leave me rolling my eyes at how easy it is to just seduce someone (which in real life would be nothing more than a hook-up) and suddenly...they're just yours for life.
The only games I've felt have done it well are TW3 (which is kind of cheating, because: novels [...but, they still did what there was REALLY well, building off of the novels]), Dragon Age: Inquisition, Mass Effect 1-3, and (believe it or not) Life is Strange.
Aside from those, I was very pleased with the way that Baldur's Gate 3 romances played out with either Shadowheart or Gale...but I was not impressed with the other characters. I can see Karlach being good, but the way they executed it in the one playthrough that I saw it, it flops at the end. Which, for romances, is kind of...well...you see where I'm going.
Generally, romances in games feel like an afterthought, for the most part. They're not integral to the character or the plot -- which is about as far away as you can get from believable and relatable (unless you're playing a sociopath [...which Geralt is...and his romances were wonderfully handled...{so, you see where I'm going, again.}])
Romance is hard. Really hard. (Stop it.) <---and that's the problem.
Either romances need to be taken seriously at a mature level, or they cater to immaturity / marketing. For Ciri, I hope we're treated to something that is revolutionary for the gaming industry. Something that will rival Sliding Doors or The Taming of the Shrew.
The only games I've felt have done it well are TW3 (which is kind of cheating, because: novels [...but, they still did what there was REALLY well, building off of the novels]), Dragon Age: Inquisition, Mass Effect 1-3, and (believe it or not) Life is Strange.
Aside from those, I was very pleased with the way that Baldur's Gate 3 romances played out with either Shadowheart or Gale...but I was not impressed with the other characters. I can see Karlach being good, but the way they executed it in the one playthrough that I saw it, it flops at the end. Which, for romances, is kind of...well...you see where I'm going.
Generally, romances in games feel like an afterthought, for the most part. They're not integral to the character or the plot -- which is about as far away as you can get from believable and relatable (unless you're playing a sociopath [...which Geralt is...and his romances were wonderfully handled...{so, you see where I'm going, again.}])
Romance is hard. Really hard. (Stop it.) <---and that's the problem.
Either romances need to be taken seriously at a mature level, or they cater to immaturity / marketing. For Ciri, I hope we're treated to something that is revolutionary for the gaming industry. Something that will rival Sliding Doors or The Taming of the Shrew.
They will probably follow the current trend in gaming industry where dismemberment and torture are fine but showing boobs is a no-go. I expect her to be bi so everyone can romance who he likes and the romances on the shallow side, with kiss - fade to black - walk out. I wouldn't mind some steamy love scenes like in Cyberpunk of course.
Never understood why you couldn't take Yen to bed in Corvo Bianco after the end (or even interact with her in any meaningful way). That's one thing Valhalla did well - you could kiss Petra, take her to bed (in full armor, lol), play Orlog, archery or drink with her whenever you liked.
In TW3 the player can choose to reject a male admirer (who would only kiss her, anyway) by having Ciri say she prefers women, so I don't see why that wouldn't carry over (if there is "romance" in the first place).
Doubt they'll tone anything down now. CDPR has always been willing to include more graphic sexuality, and they've always done so in a way that was meaningful to the characters, and not just cheap T&A.
Oh, didn't remember that, thanks for reminding. Making her pure lesbian would not be worth the shitstorm though. Imagine a Gerald only wanting to romance men for a second. Unless they cut the whole romance thing severely down to a smooch in the end like in Horizon Forbidden West.
Hoping that as well.
Always? We're forgetting the sexy trading card debacle from The Witcher 1?
Just remembered - their last game (Phantom Liberty) had zero romance. Even looked like something was set up and then cut.
Witcher 3 isn’t soft porn. If you want sexualized characters use your own mods.
The few scenes, far and in between, in the game relating to nudity and sex happen briefly.
Ciri is homosexual anyway. If anything her relationships will be with female partners.
The focus of these games is the stories and interesting characters. It’s not about aesthetics or making Ciri or npc characters look pretty.
Enough with the aesthetic critiques and requests.
It’s a game about hunting and killing monsters for petty sakes.
It’s CDPR’s IP. They know what they’re doing. Let them cook.
Keep your fetishes and kinks to yourself.
The few scenes, far and in between, in the game relating to nudity and sex happen briefly.
Ciri is homosexual anyway. If anything her relationships will be with female partners.
The focus of these games is the stories and interesting characters. It’s not about aesthetics or making Ciri or npc characters look pretty.
Enough with the aesthetic critiques and requests.
It’s a game about hunting and killing monsters for petty sakes.
It’s CDPR’s IP. They know what they’re doing. Let them cook.
Keep your fetishes and kinks to yourself.
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Nope, she's not. From what I understand (I didn't read the books), Ciri is bisexual. So romances in The Witcher 4, if there are romances, can be with both gender depending player preferences
I could care less what any characters sexual orientation is as it’s irrelevant.
For the IP to be successful the characters need to be a continuation of Witcher 3.
And that’s what Project Red is doing. They’re not giving into political influences or agendas or biases.
They’re not going to piss off their consumers and ruin their sales by upsetting their consumers by deviating from the previous game which is their most popular franchise.
The characters are going to look fatigued and haggard and worn as people who do manual labor and empty their own piss pots and live in cobbled houses in mid evil conditions as they always have.
For the IP to be successful the characters need to be a continuation of Witcher 3.
And that’s what Project Red is doing. They’re not giving into political influences or agendas or biases.
They’re not going to piss off their consumers and ruin their sales by upsetting their consumers by deviating from the previous game which is their most popular franchise.
The characters are going to look fatigued and haggard and worn as people who do manual labor and empty their own piss pots and live in cobbled houses in mid evil conditions as they always have.