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With mutation of the eyes why the cat potions

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LadyRolePlay

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Dec 29, 2007
With mutation of the eyes why the cat potions

Title says it all. It's pitch dark in some places, and sometimes outside, just night time and he doesn't see worth a damn without the cat potion. NPC's can see better than he can. Finished out chapter one for the second time, following Shani through the night and she can see her way better than I can.You would think, there'd be 'some ability' to see better than he does, w/o cat potion?
 
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hogger49

Senior user
#2
Dec 29, 2007
Yeah, I wondered about that myself, but it is what it is. Besides, I get to make more potions that way. The way I'm rationalizing it is that I can see pretty well except where's there's a complete lack of artificial light--like moonlight or stars. That's where the potions come in. Heck, I don't know if you put a cat in a completely darkened room whether they'd see any better. I do complement the devs on causing a temporary blackout to see when Igni goes off.
 
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LadyRolePlay

Senior user
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Dec 29, 2007
Even with moon and stars IMO you don't see that well :). Myself, there's a limit to the number of potions he can drink w/o going toxic, and being able to leave off this one, would let one use another.I just wondering if it was an oversight by the people that made the game? How good is his dark vision, unaltered supposed to be? I'd love to hear from ppl that have read the books, certainly judging from the shape of the pupils and such it ought to be pretty damn good and there be no need to add this potion to others.
 
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Eredin

Senior user
#4
Dec 30, 2007
While mutation allows Geralt to use any bit of light avaliable; Cat potion forces his pupils to UV emission ;) So, he do not need a source of light.
 
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dragonsblood

Senior user
#5
Dec 30, 2007
LRP said:
Even with moon and stars IMO you don't see that well :). Myself, there's a limit to the number of potions he can drink w/o going toxic, and being able to leave off this one, would let one use another.I just wondering if it was an oversight by the people that made the game? How good is his dark vision, unaltered supposed to be? I'd love to hear from ppl that have read the books, certainly judging from the shape of the pupils and such it ought to be pretty damn good and there be no need to add this potion to others.
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If you have albedo running, cat potions have 0 toxicity.Also, maybe you just need to change the contrast on your monitor and/or the gamma in the game options. I can see just fine outside of crypts at night without cat potions.
 
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ifandbut

Senior user
#6
Dec 30, 2007
Ya, I thought the completely dark areas were a pain in the ass. It's not so bad when you have a torch out but you still need to put it away when you fight (at least in Oblivion you could off hand one while you fight). Also the auto sheath gets really annoying when I'm trying to have the torch out.
 
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petra_silie

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#7
Dec 30, 2007
I never use cat potions outside crypts, sewers and caves. Though it's quite dark at nights in some places in particular Vyzima cemetery , I see quite well.
 
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triptrio

Senior user
#8
Dec 30, 2007
Exactly! Total Ignorance of the designers. Geralt is a mutant and does not need any potions to see in the dark. Hopefully it shouldn't be too hard to change it if the modding tools are realist. All You have to do is give him the effect of cat potion "for life" since the very beginning of the game. It has to be also impossible to "undone it" with that potion which "undoes" effect of every potions (the honey potion ? sorry I've got the polish version only) P.S. Excuse me for my terrible English :-[
 
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rhian

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#9
Dec 30, 2007
I am glad it's ultravision!Infravision and Sonicvision really hurts, even when it only happens at the screen and not in real.This kind of sight had been implemeneted in Everquest 2 (MMORPG) for some races and it was horrible...Aqua Vision, too! urghssss...
 
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Szoreny

Senior user
#10
Dec 30, 2007
I just figured it was Geralt's mutated eyes that allowed him to benefit from Cat potions....like an ordinary person who drank the brew would not only find their vision non-enhanced but find themselves puking their guts out as well.
 
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LadyRolePlay

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Dec 30, 2007
Well my question for readers of the books is, exactly how is their vision altered? I assume it works on the same principal as nocturnal creatures. ie they're able to see at the lower light spectrums. Bees for example can see in the UV spectrum to gather nectar. Or pit vipers, others can perceive the heat given off by the world around them. That's how night vision goggles work right?I do however :) yea have to watch my monitor. It does have a regular use mode, which makes the screen dimmer and a gaming mode which makes it brighter, and it'll switch to the regular mode when I leave a game. As for getting it so it's all albedo, sometimes yes I can but other times no I cannot. Seems like if I use a cat and swallow and one other potion though, that I'm seeing those little red spots before me eyes, which actually is quiet a good effect. It is SO annoying I swear I can almost 'feel' the headache Geralt has LOL. Still those are just minor annoyances and this wasn't a complaint really so much as being curious how it plays out in the author's books.I just wondered, why, given the mutation he needs any potion to enhance vision and exactly how his vision is altered, because I've never seen that play out in the game, yet much is made of that altered sight and his eyes certainly bear similarity to those of reptiles and other night hunters. They go to so much trouble to do this, yet I never see it as a factor in the game?
 
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triptrio

Senior user
#12
Dec 30, 2007
LRP said:
(...)I just wondered, why, given the mutation he needs any potion to enhance vision and exactly how his vision is altered, because I've never seen that play out in the game, yet much is made of that altered sight and his eyes certainly bear similarity to those of reptiles and other night hunters. They go to so much trouble to do this, yet I never see it as a factor in the game?
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Geralt like any other witcher was mutated when he was a boy. During the "Grass Tests" (one of the mutations) he developed "snake eyes" that makes his sight good enough to see in the dark. He does not need any potions.The grass tests are very dangerous though and more then half of children dies during them. Other mutations makes Witcher invulnerable to poison, venom and most of sicknesses.It's all written in the first tome of Saga.
 
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soul33

Senior user
#13
Dec 30, 2007
I thought that 1 per 10 survives and that Geralt went through tests exceptionally well, so they decided to do some more, very tough tests, that kill another 9 per 10.
 
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petra_silie

Ex-moderator
#14
Dec 30, 2007
@triptrioBut does Geralt need in the novels certain potions for temporary buffs? I know some of his "average" supernatural abilities which result from the mutation don't need potions.I merely read the first 2 volumes of the short stories. In one chapter Geralt was at a cursed hermits house. This guy was telling him sth about this and that in his life and mentioned a portrait (or an other painting) in the room which was hidden in a dark and shady part of the room. Geralt made a comment on that painting which proved that he can see in the dark. He wasn't "under influence" of a special potion which enables to see in the dark.
 
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dragonsblood

Senior user
#15
Dec 30, 2007
Geralt CAN see in the dark already. Just not pitch black darkness without cat.
Exactly! Total Ignorance of the designers. Geralt is a mutant and does not need any potions to see in the dark. Hopefully it shouldn't be too hard to change it if the modding tools are realist. All You have to do is give him the effect of cat potion "for life" since the very beginning of the game. It has to be also impossible to "undone it" with that potion which "undoes" effect of every potions (the honey potion ? sorry I've got the polish version only)
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They would also need to remove the tunnel vision for when it's light out.
 
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markquinn

Senior user
#16
Jan 4, 2008
Hogger49 said:
Heck, I don't know if you put a cat in a completely darkened room whether they'd see any better.
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They wouldn't. Cats have excellent night vision and can see quite well with just a small light source. But in pitch blackness they're as blind as we are.
 
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triptrio

Senior user
#17
Jan 7, 2008
PetraSilie said:
@triptrioBut does Geralt need in the novels certain potions for temporary buffs? I know some of his "average" supernatural abilities which result from the mutation don't need potions.I merely read the first 2 volumes of the short stories. In one chapter Geralt was at a cursed hermits house. This guy was telling him sth about this and that in his life and mentioned a portrait (or an other painting) in the room which was hidden in a dark and shady part of the room. Geralt made a comment on that painting which proved that he can see in the dark. He wasn't "under influence" of a special potion which enables to see in the dark.
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Yap, that Is correct. In "Minor Evil" (the same vol as the story of cursed hermit) Geralt can see Renfri hidden in the dark. He was going upstairs to his room just after having dinner at blaviken chiefs' house (I have to check to be sure what he had for the dinner, but it probably wasn't the cat potion ;) ) . Earlier in that story You can also read about Geralt killing a rat during another dinner in the past (he used a fork as a missile, and "scored" though it was quite dark) - that was supposed to be a reason why Chief's wife doesn't like Geralt :D P.S. I'm in a rush, so again sorry for my English.
 
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username_2061574

Senior user
#18
Jan 7, 2008
As far as I know Geralt had altered vision and was able to see almost anything in the dark. Still, he sometimes used potions to increase his perception. I must agree that if Geralt (in the game) couldn't see almost anything at night, other NPCs should have been even more disoriented.
 
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triptrio

Senior user
#19
Jan 11, 2008
Soul33 said:
I thought that 1 per 10 survives and that Geralt went through tests exceptionally well, so they decided to do some more, very tough tests, that kill another 9 per 10.
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Never too late for an answer :) You are correct, that Geralt went through first tests exceptionally well. And You are also correct that they decided to do some more. Those experiments took on him and other kids that went through first tests well killed everybody except for Geralt.
 
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tlazolteotl

Senior user
#20
Jan 11, 2008
Well, maybe we should take it as evidence we're not playing the "real" Geralt.
 
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