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ghost55

Forum regular
#501
Aug 27, 2012
LicaonKter said:
not really :(
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Oh well. the game is still playable. I just wish In could run it at a higher resolution. a lot of text is very hard to read.
 
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GuyNwah

Ex-moderator
#502
Aug 27, 2012
The GT 310m is the bottleneck. It's the same as the desktop 210, and it's about one-quarter of the processing power needed for this game. This game is unusual even among the more demanding games: it exercises the GPU heavily, and it wants a strong output processor section.
 
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ghost55

Forum regular
#503
Aug 28, 2012
GuyN said:
The GT 310m is the bottleneck. It's the same as the desktop 210, and it's about one-quarter of the processing power needed for this game. This game is unusual even among the more demanding games: it exercises the GPU heavily, and it wants a strong output processor section.
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Even Metro 2033 and Crysis 2 run fine. I think The Witcher 2 is the new Crysis. Especially with Ubersampling.
 
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jman12311

Rookie
#504
Sep 5, 2012
I was wondering how bad the bottleneck would be in this game with my current setup:
Radeon HD 6850 1GB DDR5
Pentium Dual Core E6700 (not core 2 duo) @ 3.5Ghz
4GB DDR2 RAM
1440x900 resolution

I wanted to play this at least on high, medium is fine too.
 
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GuyNwah

Ex-moderator
#505
Sep 5, 2012
jman12311 said:
I was wondering how bad the bottleneck would be in this game with my current setup:
Radeon HD 6850 1GB DDR5
Pentium Dual Core E6700 (not core 2 duo) @ 3.5Ghz
4GB DDR2 RAM
1440x900 resolution

I wanted to play this at least on high, medium is fine too.
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You should be fine for High at that resolution, which is only 5/8 of the number of pixels at 1920x1080. You'll have to make sure the most expensive settings are turned off, which are Ubersampling and Cinematic DOF. It's often productive to try different values of the Texture Size (which controls the amount of VRAM reserved for textures). I get best results on 1GB cards with it set to Very High. Other people get crashes when they do that. So YMMV.

The CPU is not the best, but I've had good results with a lesser Pentium Dual CoreCeleron than that one.
 
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jman12311

Rookie
#506
Sep 6, 2012
Nice :D
Now I can stop worrying so much and get the game lol
 
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username_3620375

Rookie
#507
Sep 15, 2012
Upgraded my computer and I still get fps drops. In medium avg 60fps and no drops. With high settings avg 50fps and sometimes fps drops to 20 especially when there is fire or a lot of dust in game. So is there some setting what I can dissable so I don't need to change to medium settings? Motion blur and Cinematic DoF already dissabled Those drops really bother...

My specs:
i5-3570k
4870x2+4870 crossfire
ASrock z77 extreme 4
8gb ram
750w power
 
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GuyNwah

Ex-moderator
#508
Sep 16, 2012
Crossfire, especially AFR (which the game needs), isn't real efficient. The best you are going to do is limited by that one 4870 that is doing every other frame. You'd probably get results just as good if you yanked that 4870 and just ran on the 4870x2.

The 4870 is just a middle-of-the-road card by the unique requirements of this game. Other games can take advantage of its 800 stream processors; this game gets limited by its 16 output processors.
 
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ghost55

Forum regular
#509
Sep 16, 2012
GuyN said:
Crossfire, especially AFR (which the game needs), isn't real efficient. The best you are going to do is limited by that one 4870 that is doing every other frame. You'd probably get results just as good if you yanked that 4870 and just ran on the 4870x2.

The 4870 is just a middle-of-the-road card by the unique requirements of this game. Other games can take advantage of its 800 stream processors; this game gets limited by its 16 output processors.
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I don't know about that. the 4870x2 is literally two 4870's on one circuit board running in crossfire. adding another 4870 just makes that three 4870's in crossfire. if you look in the drivers for the 4970x2, I am pretty sure you will see that with a single card, it is still in crossfire mode, and you can even disable that and only use one of the card's gpu's if crossfire is causing problems in and older game.
 
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GuyNwah

Ex-moderator
#510
Sep 16, 2012
No, it has been noted pretty widely that Crossfiring a 4870x2 with a 4870 gives you just two 4870's in Crossfire.

A 4870x2 is already two 4870's in Crossfire, you are right. But Crossfiring it with another 4870 does not make 3x Crossfire. It makes a 4870x2 with one side disabled in 2x with a single 4870.

And that single 4870 that has to render half the frames is still going to cause a bottleneck.

Compare the 4870x2 running alone with the 4870x2 + 4870 Crossfire. It's not a difficult test.
 
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username_3620375

Rookie
#511
Sep 16, 2012
^^ I made test with 3Dmark and you are right 4870x2 alone got better score.
 
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ghost55

Forum regular
#512
Sep 16, 2012
Oh. I stand corrected then.
 
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Tannosuke

Senior user
#513
Oct 7, 2012
Hello, everyone...

Been a while since I posted here.

My old PC can't "hold" TW2 up any longer. Even with minimum and lowest graphic details it still lags, so I decided to upgrade it.

My new specs are:

ASROCK Z77 EXTREME4-M
CORSAIR CMZ8GX3M2A1600C9 VENGEANCE 8GB (2X4GB) PC3-12800 DUAL CHANNEL KIT
COOLERMASTER RC-430-KWN1 ELITE 430 BLACK
INTEL CORE I7-3770K 3.50GHZ LGA1155 - BOX

Along with those I already have and plan to transfer...

Generator UPS 350W
Graphic Card: NVidia GeForce GTX 550 Ti
Audio Card: M-Audio Delta 1010LT PCI (This one is a professional one - I'm a music producer)

What do you say about it? I think it can "hold" TW2 up with its maximum and highest graphic details.
 
tommy5761

tommy5761

Mentor
#514
Oct 7, 2012
Tannosuke said:
Hello, everyone...

Been a while since I posted here.

My old PC can't "hold" TW2 up any longer. Even with minimum and lowest graphic details it still lags, so I decided to upgrade it.

My new specs are:

ASROCK Z77 EXTREME4-M
CORSAIR CMZ8GX3M2A1600C9 VENGEANCE 8GB (2X4GB) PC3-12800 DUAL CHANNEL KIT
COOLERMASTER RC-430-KWN1 ELITE 430 BLACK
INTEL CORE I7-3770K 3.50GHZ LGA1155 - BOX

Along with those I already have and plan to transfer...

Generator UPS 350W
Graphic Card: NVidia GeForce GTX 550 Ti
Audio Card: M-Audio Delta 1010LT PCI (This one is a professional one - I'm a music producer)

What do you say about it? I think it can "hold" TW2 up with its maximum and highest graphic details.
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Highest settings ...no but good enough for medium-high . I run a GTX560 Ti and can`t run max settings

EDIT : What power supply are you installing ?
 
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Tannosuke

Senior user
#515
Oct 7, 2012
Tommy said:
Highest settings ...no but good enough for medium-high . I run a GTX560 Ti and can`t run max settings

EDIT : What power supply are you installing ?
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Well, dunno. I searched the internet with my mates trying to build a stronger PC. This is the i7 and the latest model of the quad core processor. The rest are still too expensive and too... professional for my likes. I want to play all the games only in 60fps and 1080p. Nothing much.

This is the power supply "NRG Guard" with the 360W(forgot to fix this quantity mistake) model 600AP. This Power supply is an external ones. This box doesn't have an internal power supply, but nevertheless, it doesn't need to have one for now.
I'm told that I have a power supply that holds 200W, as I was told from my mates, who checked my PC's insides. I don't know its exact model.

I hope I filled you in.

With my mates we found out it can also reach to 550W, so it's OK. :)

Oh, and let me inform you that this processor of of the latest model with the 22nm, not 32nm. Much good performance. With Assrock, I'm sure it'll reach the highest of TW2. :)
 
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GuyNwah

Ex-moderator
#516
Oct 7, 2012
That's not the power supply Tommy was talking about. NRG makes uninterruptable power supplies, which you plug the computer into so that it doesn't crash when the city power goes out. This is nice to have, but it is not the power supply we mean when we talk about power supplies.

There is also an internal power supply. That is the thing that your buddies said was 200W. There is no way this side of Oblivion you can run a Core i7 on that power supply. Trying to do so will end in (expensive) tears or a fire. You MUST figure a new power supply into your specs and budget.

And this game is not limited by the CPU; it is limited by the GPU. You can get Ultra (less Ubersampling) settings with that GPU, or you may be able to get 60 fps at lesser settings. But you will not come close to the full performance of this game.
 
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Tannosuke

Senior user
#517
Oct 7, 2012
GuyN said:
That's not the power supply Tommy was talking about. NRG makes uninterruptable power supplies, which you plug the computer into so that it doesn't crash when the city power goes out. This is nice to have, but it is not the power supply we mean when we talk about power supplies.

There is also an internal power supply. That is the thing that your buddies said was 200W. There is no way this side of Oblivion you can run a Core i7 on that power supply. Trying to do so will end in (expensive) tears or a fire. You MUST figure a new power supply into your specs and budget.

And this game is not limited by the CPU; it is limited by the GPU. You can get Ultra (less Ubersampling) settings with that GPU, or you may be able to get 60 fps at lesser settings. But you will not come close to the full performance of this game.
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I know what Tommy meant about the power supply. If I see that this internal power supply can't hold this new PC, I'll see to it it be changed. I don't know its model yet.

And speaking of GPU, if you meant the graphic card, will see it later with my new PC. Earlier I had lag issues because of my CPU and processor and my RAM. To avoid these, I had to buy high-end PC.

And yep, the external Power Supply is also good for crashing just in case of black-outs. I had an old NVidia card, which got burned from the black-out some years ago, so that's why I have this NRG model since then.

Nevertheless, I'll check it out and inform you in a week.
 
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GuyNwah

Ex-moderator
#518
Oct 7, 2012
I do not believe your lag issues are caused by CPU and RAM. I've played this game too many times on obsolescent PCs with good GPUs to think that. Whoever told you that did not understand this game. But it's your money.
 
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Tannosuke

Senior user
#519
Oct 7, 2012
GuyN said:
I do not believe your lag issues are caused by CPU and RAM. I've played this game too many times on obsolescent PCs with good GPUs to think that. Whoever told you that did not understand this game. But it's your money.
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Nobody played The Witcher 2. My nephew played it in XBOX 360, which I avoid at all costs, and I played it in PC a bit. It lagged like hell.

My old PC is this

AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4800+ 2.50GHz
RAM 4GB
NVidia GeForce GTX 550 Ti
Power supply the same 200W
I don't know the motherboard model, not even her manufacturer.

Like this it could only run Amnesia at the highest. I had a lag issue due of Prince of Persia: The Forgotten Sands and I had to upgrade it to 4GB RAM. Like this I couldn't afford to upgrade it anymore, so I had to upgrade the rest and stick with these(power supply, GPU and Sound card) I have. :(
 
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GuyNwah

Ex-moderator
#520
Oct 7, 2012
You may have misunderstood. I said that I have played The Witcher 2 on PCs with no more CPU power than yours, without lag. So no matter what you may have found with other games, you should not blame poor performance in this game on the CPU, and replacing the CPU will be an expensive undertaking that may have no benefit at all.

Part of your problem may be that you have a power supply that is already underpowered for the 550Ti. Graphics cards with an underpowered supply are a little unpredictable. They may refuse to start, or not run at full speed, or fail.
 
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