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CKiely_73

CKiely_73

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#21
Dec 22, 2020
jackwu10 said:
or, just drop console version, focus on pc only.
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Yikes, you really want them to lose those potential lawsuits.

You don't erase revenue streams at this level of corporate life. Shareholders will look for and find blood. Maybe even call a fixer. 😉
 
jackwu10

jackwu10

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#22
Dec 22, 2020
CKiely_73 said:
Yikes, you really want them to lose those potential lawsuits.

You don't erase revenue streams at this level of corporate life. Shareholders will look for and find blood. Maybe even call a fixer. 😉
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from what i see, ps4/xbox 1 are at its absolute limit, if they intend to fix the game to suit the current gen at its current content & state, which probably mean they cant add more feature/contents cos the machine will just freak out again, and that will also drag pc/ps5/xsx down with it.

cdpr need to show ppl this game is pinnacle of gaming, and best way to do it is to make sure everything runs smooth in pc with all content planned, then from there they can start downgrade to console.
 
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kaotkbliss

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#23
Dec 22, 2020
I remember during the console wars when arcade games were being ported to the different consoles, the games were remade for the system's capability they were going to be played on leading to vastly different versions of the same game depending on the system you were playing it on. They didn't remove features from one console because another couldn't handle it. The same should be done here. Why should next-gen or pc gamers lose features because last-gen systems can't handle something?
Make the game for the system it's going to be played on, don't try to make an exact copy for all systems.
 
Rawflux

Rawflux

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#24
Dec 22, 2020
I fully agree. Even if it takes time and patience i will stick through alot for this game and CDPR, but most important to add to this is more real / honest transparency and communication (NO MORE Corpo speak / double talk).

Let us know what aspects of this game are coming down the road when speaking of the numerous features / mechanics & content that was clearly cut to make your deadline.

This is most important to me directly after fixing the game. After 125 hrs of exploring it is clearly obvious that alot was left out or removed (large blocked zones + large empty zones + unfinished areas (no reason for them to be there (no loot / missions / enemies...).

Ontop of what i find most disheartening next to the enemy A.I, is the fact they don't seem to have any purpose or role to play + they never re-populate areas over time + outside of a couple brief interactions = the gangs feel like they serve zero purpose in this game / world other than generic things to shoot at :(

Not expecting lengthy Story content or DLC anytime soon and i should hope not if the core of the game isn't worked on and improved before then. Otherwise in all honesty = i am unsure if i would buy any DLC if it was just more of the same, no matter how amazing the world / art & writing are... It all just feels unfinished and half baked :(
 
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gallantchar

gallantchar

Forum regular
#25
Dec 22, 2020
emcee009 said:
would you as a player prefer that CDPR keep revising, improving, expanding, and enhancing Cyberpunk 2077 for many years to come
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Yes.

emcee009 said:
Personally, I hope they constantly keep working on this game and revising it until all the initial shortcomings become a distant memory. I don't really see a need for a sequel, until we get see a new generational leap in gaming technology.
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Agreed.

emcee009 said:
With new main story/side quest/gig/feature DLC every few months or so, I can see myself enjoying this game for a long, long time. Doesn't even need to be free of charge - I'd gladly pay for high quality DLC that keeps me in this world for the long haul.
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Yeah, no. They sold us a $20 game for $60. They got all the money they’re gonna get out of me. And if they do improve it, doing the whole “paid DLC” would be another thing they walked back on—but hey, with their current trend, I wouldn’t be surprised if they did it.

Would definitely put the final nail in the coffin, and I’d swear off buying anything from them in the future.
 
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Attidd

Attidd

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#26
Dec 22, 2020
Disturbed_Man said:
Before you even think about a Cyberpunk 2, CDPR must fix this messy game, show the players they are HONEST about making this game better, get themselves out of a potential lawsuit and survive long enough to think about making a sequel and a TW 4 game.
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This is something I don't think CDPR really understands the long-term implications this game will leave. If this game ends up staying trash (it will, let's be honest.) then CDPR will have the reputation of being a mediocre game developer. So next time they release a game, there will be no hype. There will be memes and jokes about how bad the gameplay will be, how buggy the game will be, how unfinished every mechanic is going to be.

If CDPR doesn't fix this (they won't) then they are never going to be able to market a game again. Peoples expectations are going to be so low. Look at Watch Dogs Legion, it accomplished the things that cyberpunk failed to do, yet it still didn't get as many sales, simply because Ubisoft has a reputation of putting out mediocre games.

Cyberpunk 2077 launch trailer has 16 million views, game gets 8 million pre-orders. Meanwhile Watch Dogs launch trailer has 97k views.
 
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OrdoAbChao

OrdoAbChao

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#27
Dec 22, 2020
All they can do now is fix it and add the missing content.

There are class action lawsuits on its way. The management has screwed over investors, consumers and their own developers. If this takes hold, many more lawsuits await.

It has gone so far that even developers are jumping ship after 2 years of really awful treatment of staff, there have been many that has quit their jobs att cdpr since 2016. It all looks so good and golden on the outside, but the truth is that its a toxic working environment because of the managements behaviour. There are whistleblowers all the way back to 2018 confirming this.

But no one listens because its cdp, the gamers golden grail of gaming.

It all may be a very well hidden lie or illusion.

If they wont fix this soon, they will probably never make another game again. It is truly this serious, but people do not understand or realise how bad it actually is.

This release is being dubbed the worst in gaming history, and right now it is costing money rather than making.
 
warbaby2

warbaby2

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#28
Dec 22, 2020
Attidd said:
This is something I don't think CDPR really understands the long-term implications this game will leave. If this game ends up staying trash (it will, let's be honest.) then CDPR will have the reputation of being a mediocre game developer. So next time they release a game, there will be no hype. There will be memes and jokes about how bad the gameplay will be, how buggy the game will be, how unfinished every mechanic is going to be.

If CDPR doesn't fix this (they won't) then they are never going to be able to market a game again. Peoples expectations are going to be so low. Look at Watch Dogs Legion, it accomplished the things that cyberpunk failed to do, yet it still didn't get as many sales, simply because Ubisoft has a reputation of putting out mediocre games.

Cyberpunk 2077 launch trailer has 16 million views, game gets 8 million pre-orders. Meanwhile Watch Dogs launch trailer has 97k views.
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Yup, that's my estimation too... most worrying/telling, I think they haven't even acknowledged that the game has any major problems outside of basic bugs and stability, have they? They seam to be under the impression everything about the game is pretty much a-ok on PC, right, even despite the 7 on metacritic? The bar for what the game was actually supposed to be originally, also seams to be dropping constantly in the media and a certain subset of fans right now...
 
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Rawflux

Rawflux

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#29
Dec 22, 2020
To add to my last reply, all i want is for this game to be what it has the potential to be and truly hope the team continues to add to the game over time after fixing it.

By this i mean the return of features that were specifically stated by CDPR would be in the final version, plus the following = A.I improvement (across the board) + highly requested features (barber / tattoo / car customization / and so many more to list here + some work on cars (steering / braking / etc...)

Abandoning games in favour of improving what is needed, but only doing so by a sequel rarely works for many games / some it does, but most just feel like multiple versions (clones) of the same game with little improvements and a new $$$ price tag :(

If CDPR sticks by this IP and delivers what they initially sold us and proove it by fixing the game first and following through with their word = i will be a fan of CDPR for life, but...

If they do the bare minimum (get the game to a generally playable state + don't add and improve features & mechanics over time and / or continue to lie to it's consumers and fan base, well... I don't believe i will stick around, not purchase anything from CDPR in the future.

Standing by the statements you say and the actions you choose, which both embody your reputation overall is more important to me than hollow apologies and cryptic statements regarding what was left out of the game. I would hope & believe many, many others feel the same way as i do.

Ironic how this is generally the overall theme of Night City & Cyberpunk 2077 = you live and die by your reputation... Interesting to see if CDPR lives up to theirs.
 
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Attidd

Attidd

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#30
Dec 22, 2020
warbaby2 said:
Yup, that's my estimation too... most worrying/telling, I think they haven't even acknowledged that the game has any major problems outside of basic bugs and stability, have they? They seam to be under the impression everything about the game is pretty much a-ok on PC, right, even despite the 7 on metacritic? The bar for what the game was actually supposed to be originally, also seams to be dropping constantly in the media and a certain subset of fans right now...
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The senior quest designer for this game retweeted an article that said people had unrealistic expectations. It speaks for itself.
 
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marquedb

marquedb

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#31
Dec 22, 2020
Honestly this game feels like it's half done; the core gameplay loop is more or less finished I suppose if you squint really hard and look at it sideways but the game world isnt really fleshed out.
If you like running about like a maniac murdering half the populous for looking at you funny it's... fine I suppose.
Personally though I prefer wondering the streets on foot in this game It'd be nice if the npc's had more personalities and there were more random shops and events. (and not the murder hobo kind -_-)
 
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warbaby2

warbaby2

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#32
Dec 22, 2020
Attidd said:
The senior quest designer for this game retweeted an article that said people had unrealistic expectations. It speaks for itself.
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Yea, that's one way to memory-hole all the marketing hype, I guess... figures. :rolleyes:
 
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tavellone

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#33
Dec 22, 2020
Long term improvements.
 
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Sechrima

Sechrima

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#34
Dec 22, 2020
I want them to take this game and make it into the greatest and most immersive RPG we've ever seen. The potential is there, but so many systems need to be remade from the ground up or completely made from scratch.
 
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Moonfeast

Moonfeast

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#35
Dec 22, 2020
i hope they just give me the game they advertised.

or give me a date when will the actual game be released?
 
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Aetrion

Aetrion

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#36
Dec 22, 2020
There are too many good things in this game to let them go to waste.
 
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