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stndn

stndn

Forum regular
#121
Dec 28, 2020
tRYSIS3 said:
I doubt that. You must have had a couple of crashes at the very least during that time
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I think I had around 2-3 crashes total and only 1 crash was in game (the others were in the main menu).

Still more stable than my time with Fallout 4.
 
amblin83

amblin83

Fresh user
#122
Dec 28, 2020
Belcechus said:
The six month montage should be playable and the game would be longer.
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Yeah, I find it quite bizarre that in a game where the sole purpose was to play and the story skipped the fun stuff , entire 'six months' of it and slapped a montage in my face....

I bet it's a DLC...
 
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ljupced

Forum regular
#123
Dec 28, 2020
Martynxas said:
People probably still dont understand how artificially streched this game is. For example cyberpshychos is same quest copy pasted 17 TIMES on map, gigs are literally 4 variations copy pasted all over map, there is only handful of good quest
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Except... each cyberpsycho has a different story, setting, combat-style, environment..?

That's like saying COD or BF have the same missions because I have to shoot people.

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Xavynius

Xavynius

Forum regular
#124
Dec 28, 2020
Agreed, the fact 'that you're dying' just kills your will to go and explore, you just want to survive.
 
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Spunky Noodle

Spunky Noodle

Senior user
#125
Dec 28, 2020
sinkiy said:
Witcher 3 wild hunt main story was 50 and half hours long. Main with extras 102 hours!

Cyberpunk after almost a decade working on the story main story is 19 hours main plus extra 48 hours. The main plus extras is shorter than witcher 3 main story lol.

That is absolutely pathetic dude. My source is how long to beat. Go see for yourself. Shame on you CDPR. All that dang hype for a 19 hour rpg story. Good god.
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I got double jump/high jump upgrade, with that I am able to see a lot of cut contents due I am able to access to some area you wouldn't not be able to enter by foot.

There are a tons of cut contents. I'm serious.
 
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Martynxas

Martynxas

Forum regular
#126
Dec 28, 2020
ljupced said:
Except... each cyberpsycho has a different story, setting, combat-style, environment..?

That's like saying COD or BF have the same missions because I have to shoot people.

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Yeah no, they have about few sentences about them. Everything is same, you go to place, defeat him without any dialogue or story progression and dont tell me shard description is good story..
 
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daniel79

Senior user
#127
Dec 28, 2020
StarkHelsing said:
What do you mean carefully crafted?
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I'm talking about detailed custom animations, places, mission design, dialogue and characters.

StarkHelsing said:
Only a handful of side quests literally have any weight or ramifications in the game at all. The cyberpyscho is just copied and paste quest as is most of the police response and gang quests.
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Those are not side quests, they are side activities.


StarkHelsing said:
The only side quests that may be seen as 'crafted' are the gigs you get from your fixers, or randomly found about. But again, none of them has ramifications.
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I never said they had "ramifications".
When you compare those quest to the ones in say, Fallout 4 and you don't see the difference in the quality I don't know what else to tell you.
This thread started with the OP claiming there is "not enough content" or the game is "too short" and CDPR should be "ashamed". That's what I don't agree with.
Whether there should be more "ramifications" is another discussion and one we would probably agree on.

StarkHelsing said:
Are you telling me as soon as act 2 didn't happen that a) you didn't check to see if those pills you got stopped Johnny from 'taking you over'. That for a moment, that the multiple 'gauges' showing percentages didn't make you think; wait, is this some sort of mechanic?
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Yes, actually that's exactly what I'm telling you. I didn't even notice those gauges and I have played enough of these kinds of games to know that any "ticking timebomb" element is more than likely smoke and mirrors. Anything else would be a disaster for an open-world game because a huge part of these games is free exploration.

StarkHelsing said:
But the side quests have zero links or substance that adds to the main quest barring a few.
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Again, these games are never primarily about the main quest and that's a good thing imho.

StarkHelsing said:
tldr: Feels like I'm playing fallout 4, except there are more hookers and sometimes my arms go brrr. I ignored the main quest there as well. Shaun? Who's Shaun?
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I did too. The difference is I ignored it because the main quest in Fallout 4 was shite. In CP2077 I sometimes put the main quest on hold for a while to enjoy what else the game has to offer but I was always curious to see what happens next.
 
gogdudedavid

gogdudedavid

Fresh user
#128
Dec 28, 2020
Think about this...

"The game will be slightly shorter than the witcher 3 but wi will have 3 different paths to expand replayability and such 3 different stories."

NOPE. NEVER HAPPENED.
 
madmidder

madmidder

Forum regular
#129
Dec 28, 2020
sinkiy said:
Witcher 3 wild hunt main story was 50 and half hours long. Main with extras 102 hours!

Cyberpunk after almost a decade working on the story main story is 19 hours main plus extra 48 hours. The main plus extras is shorter than witcher 3 main story lol.

That is absolutely pathetic dude. My source is how long to beat. Go see for yourself. Shame on you CDPR. All that dang hype for a 19 hour rpg story. Good god.
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Hm.. Witcher 3 main story was 34hrs for me with 2 or 3 side quests because I was underleveled. With expansions I'm sitting on 68.8hrs (Steam hours, so definitely less) with even more side quests and problem is I have completed only 80% story of Blood and Wine (100% Heart of Stone), because it was too long. Maybe Cyberpunk 2077 can be little bit longer, like 3-4hours, but this is absolutely fine length.

btw. Cyberpunk 2077 already finished 20.1% of players and Witcher 3 in 5 years only 26.6% (Steam stats). This is why Cyberpunk is shorter, they already told us Witcher 3 was too long for players.
 
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Fedge_123

Fedge_123

Fresh user
#130
Dec 28, 2020
DiosGnosis said:
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If you haven't come across the Side Job were the father/son duo are peddling some heinous BDs, I won't spoil it for ya, but the depth and parallels in that narrative are subtle to the uninitiated, but scream out to those with eyes to see and ears to hear. Breathtaking story telling.
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This Side Job really hit home with me too, I think there's a lot of content in the game like this that people gloss over and don't take the time to appreciate. I'm curious how you played this one out? I was walking out the door after retrieving the raw footage, mission complete, but I just couldn't let it go ... the whole situation and people kept gnawing at me so ... I turned around and put a bullet in each of their heads. It felt good.
 
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StarkHelsing

StarkHelsing

Forum regular
#131
Dec 28, 2020
Fedge_123 said:
This Side Job really hit home with me too, I think there's a lot of content in the game like this that people gloss over and don't take the time to appreciate. I'm curious how you played this one out? I was walking out the door after retrieving the raw footage, mission complete, but I just couldn't let it go ... the whole situation and people kept gnawing at me so ... I turned around and put a bullet in each of their heads. It felt good.
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That was one of the quests that were really well done. I didn't even talk to them after listening to everything and checking the info. Felt bad for the younger of the pair, he was obviously abused and groomed but, eh...
 
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Fedge_123

Fresh user
#132
Dec 28, 2020
StarkHelsing said:
That was one of the quests that were really well done. I didn't even talk to them after listening to everything and checking the info. Felt bad for the younger of the pair, he was obviously abused and groomed but, eh...
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The Cyberpsycho vet at the end of the pier was another one ... reading the archived conversations ... finding his daughter in the back of the van ... good/tough stuff
 
madmidder

madmidder

Forum regular
#133
Dec 28, 2020
gogdudedavid said:
Think about this...

"The game will be slightly shorter than the witcher 3 but wi will have 3 different paths to expand replayability and such 3 different stories."

NOPE. NEVER HAPPENED.
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True, but if you want to complete all endings, it will give you about 3 or 4 more hours. So you are on 23-25 and that's slightly shorter (30hrs for main story in Witcher 3 for me).
 
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ItsGameOvrMan

Rookie
#134
Dec 28, 2020
Just finished the main story last night. I'd have to say I'm quite disappointed in the length and progression. I figured that since I had so much still remaining that I was ok doing the story elements. I think I only have like 2-3 installed cyber implants and a lot of the skills tree remaining. It seems that it was way too easy to beat without having these things filled out more. I was just trying to get my legs under me in the game like how to get more money, how to handle inventory, how to sell things, how to upgrade weapons, etc and then it was over... It wasn't until the very end that I realized that you could stash things in your apartment! I think it might have been bugged earlier as I couldn't stash when I first started playing the game.

Overall, there were some really cool story elements, but the feeling is a huge disappointment that it is over already. I think I was at @37 hrs completion time.
 
ChaiTeam

ChaiTeam

Fresh user
#135
Dec 28, 2020
The problem isn't the hours but the structure of the quest. In witcher 3, a lot of your side quest character will go back to the main quest so you are willing to do it. But cyberpunk isn't, you finished the side quest and that's it, nothing will change(there are few romance quest will change but that's it) You can even finish three side quest to get a big main quest in Witcher 3 but in cyberpunk no one care at all. All the romance characters don't even know each other in the game. This disconnection of character makes cyberpunk feel very short and meaningless because you won't ever care to do those side quests when everything has no connection to each other. I been saying this, cyberpunk has a structure problem and that can't be fixed by an update. The whole game is just a beautiful visual upgrade vision of Skyrim, at least in Skyrim there are factions you can connect with but cyberpunk doesn't ever have that. In a way, ever fallout 4 is doing a better job than cyberpunk in terms of questing.
 
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sinkiy

sinkiy

Forum regular
#136
Dec 28, 2020
amblin83 said:
Yeah, I find it quite bizarre that in a game where the sole purpose was to play and the story skipped the fun stuff , entire 'six months' of it and slapped a montage in my face....

I bet it's a DLC...
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Man that's exactly what I said. I said they chopped the main story and made the rest into DLCs. Because there is no way in hell this was the entire story they were working on no way in hell. If it is it's pathetic and absolutely bizzare after this long this is the story and length they come up with.
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kofeiiniturpa said:
I'm not really sure how much in a hurry people are when they play.

I'm nearing 80 hours and there's still a ton of stuff to do. I will certainly wrap the game up well before everything's done.
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Im not talking about the time it takes to drive around city, visit merchants, do gigs and activites or even the stupid 10 boxing pointless missions that could've been character development missions. I'm talking about the main story of the game. It felt chopped up and cut short. Felt like a dlc. There are so many cutscenes missing they showed through the years from the game. Any game can last long time if you are a completionist. They said it's slightly shorter than witcher 3 what they failed to mention is the entire game, activities, side stories and main story together is slightly shorter than witcher 3 main story alone. Witcher 3 is almost 3 times longer that's not slightly. It's a disappointing length and I'm not the only one disappointed by it.
 
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Sera_Phial

Sera_Phial

Rookie
#137
Dec 28, 2020
Kikinho said:
We are talking about the story, not the gameplay itself. Also what 4 main story line? There is only one.
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Previous responses in this thread talk about main story line and side quests.

The main story line splits into four, possibilities, dependent upon having completed other quest lines, that are asides of the main story line.
 
RedMica

RedMica

Fresh user
#138
Dec 28, 2020
I'm closing in on 200 hours {2nd playthrough}, and considering i paid £50 for the game, i think it's rather good value for the money.
An evening at the cinema or a few pints down the pub would exceed the games cost, so i can't see the problem.
 
Fabio_Joaquim

Fabio_Joaquim

Fresh user
#139
Dec 28, 2020
Say what you want,but the game is short...and from mi point of view theres no real reason to replay it when its finished...i know it is a bit cliché,but withcer 3 makes me want to go back,fallout 4 makes me want to go back...anothet rpgs make me want to go back...but this one...played it...i dont wanna go back...theres no sense of exploration...i know that i cant enter every building...but man...
 
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sinkiy

sinkiy

Forum regular
#140
Dec 31, 2020
Lorenzo_C_ssaro said:
Don't blame CDPR.
Blame does dong-heads that criticized "The Witcher 3" main story of being "too long".

Good Lord, guys, the length is an integral part of a game!
There are games that need to be shorter, but a story-driven RPG is not among those categories.
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Let's not pretend cdpr didn't get all excited that they could make a shorter game for the same ammount of $. I do blame those idiotic imbeciles that asked for a short game. But I blame cdpr more for actually doing it and screwing their real fans out of a nice long experience like Witcher 3. That was just an excuse they made. Why would they listen to them? Because it's a copout. Now their going to give us DLCs which were actually stories in the game they cut out.
 
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