Thats my point? Sorry I meant alone not along. Geralt and Yen seems to make the most sense based of the books. I get people feel sorry for Triss esspessially if they started the series with 1 and 2 but... She never really was that significant in the books. Niether was Shani.
Theoretically, they should have avoided involving Djinn and its supposed "magic" with the breakup and just have a normal conversation where players can chose between a few dialogue options to explain their reasons (an intention to be with Triss would obviously be one of them).
As it stands now, the least awkward/cringey way to do it is to avoid the The Last Wish quest altogether.
Yes, that's what I wish they had done. As it stands, you either have to tell her Geralt never really loved her in all of those decades or refuse to help her when something she stresses it's important. It does not make our witcher look good, and it is far from a fitting end to their relationship, if the player chooses to go that way.
I think the person who said that meant that if they made a sequel with Geralt as the protagonist, the Lone Wolf ending would make the most sense. The ending that is most faithful to the books is definitely the one with Yennefer. I doubt there are many people who question that.
Well, I hadn't read the books at the time and I didn't... in TW1, anyway, since TW2 didn't really give you a choice.
It's always funny, hearing Yennefer's jealous tirade. I couldn't help but wish Geralt could tell her that, really, she was seriously overestimating the extent of the relationship. I cannot help but feel slightly irritated that in a trilogy known for choice and consequence, I seem to get punished for something I, as the player, had absolutely no control over.
This is not a criticism against the character, by the way, but the way it was set up. Yennefer's anger would have felt much more deserved if I had chosen to go for Triss, which I did not.
Oh, like I said, I don't blame the character. I think she is being a little irrational (if you have mostly ignored Triss throughout the trilogy, that is; otherwise her attitude would appear to be justified by Geralt choosing her best friend over her), but I think most people would be in her place. It's just that it is awkward, when you payed little interest to Triss throughout the trilogy, to see Yennefer make such a big deal about it. It's not a problem with the character, but with the way the story plays out. TW3 kind of assumes Geralt had this RELATIONSHIP with Triss even if you avoided all non-mandatory content with her and mostly blew her off at every chance (choosing Shani in the first game, refusing to abandon the hunt for Letho to go live with her, saying goodbye to her in Now or Never, etc.) which is a strange experience.
I am not sure whether it is IC for Yennefer to get as worked up as she did in TW3 over what to me (due to my particular choices throughout the trilogy) was no more remarkable than having a one night stand with Keira. I am not as acquainted with the character as you guys (I have yet to finish the books) so maybe I am wrong in my assessment, but I kind of got the impression that Geralt and Yennefer's relationship was sort of an open one even if not officially so. Or maybe is the fact that Triss is Yen's best friend and has a history of trying to sabotage the latter's relationship with Geralt?
Book spoilers ( on phone cant do the spoiler box)
Well triss was one of Yens best friends ( and honestly she doesnt seem to have many) and their relationship wasnt open it was just very... rocky. In the books she and Shani were really... Well... "Casuals" would be the tactful way of putting it. Geralt always went back to Yen, how much of it was the Djiinn... Who knows. But Geralt did ask for the spell so he must have had a reason. I try to Rpgs like this make the decision that I think the character would make. This is GERALTS story. So I read the books listened to all the dialogue and hence... yen wins
Shes also cooler imho .
Well triss was one of Yens best friends ( and honestly she doesnt seem to have many) and their relationship wasnt open it was just very... rocky. In the books she and Shani were really... Well... "Casuals" would be the tactful way of putting it. Geralt always went back to Yen, how much of it was the Djiinn... Who knows. But Geralt did ask for the spell so he must have had a reason. I try to Rpgs like this make the decision that I think the character would make. This is GERALTS story. So I read the books listened to all the dialogue and hence... yen wins
Shes also cooler imho .
It is not really close if it removes an important element, the possibility that they are actually dead. One might say, the game's version is "fan service" like that short story mentioned below. Again, it is a different ending, at a different place and time, the books say nothing about Geralt settling down in Toussaint in 1273 with anyone. Thus, it is not an event that is canon to the books, even if it may seem somewhat similar. The only thing that is common is that Geralt and Yennefer are together. Which is what they wanted in the books. But whether that would stay the same 5 years later, after all the events of the games, is already a matter of opinion, the books offer no "canon" for this particular scenario. They tell that Geralt and Yennefer were in a relationship in 1268, but a relationship is not a permanent fact that can never change.
If it is non-canon according to the author, then it does not really matter, after all, it is probably non-canon for a reason. It is basically like that wedding quest for Witcher 1.
Edit: there was a somewhat related discussion in another thread here.
It may be "most faithful" in the sense that Geralt is in the same relationship as he was in in the books. One may or may not believe that the events of the games can change that. But my original point was simply that there is no objectively "canon" ending in the game.
We'll see, chances are indeed that it will include some.
That is not necessarily what he means, but even if we interpret it literally (which disagrees with the outcome of not doing the quest), it still does not imply that he could not love her in the past without the wish, only that he does not in the present. Of course, with the "magic" interpretation, the opposite is also true of the "still love you" option. Perhaps it is best to just skip this quest in the end, the wish was never broken in the books, either.
At least he has a good reason to do so. After all, if the djinn could already wait for 20 years, wouldn't it make more sense to rescue Ciri first, and then deal with the djinn later ?
But there is still a third possibility to end up without Yennefer if neither of the above options are to your liking - It Takes Three to Tango. It may even be more entertaining than the others.
I do not think it ends simply because of ignoring the quest, but more as a result of Geralt' s recent relationship with Triss that Yennefer does not forgive easily (as it can be seen in Vizima and especially Kaer Morhen, and is also mentioned in the journal), unless they reconcile at the end of The Last Wish.
Well, you had no choice over what happened in the books before the games either, yet it is considered part of the story. The games cannot give choice over everything, and they are admittedly not good when it comes to implementing consequences to choices made in the previous game (or, in this particular case, even two games earlier). So, some parts of them end up being pre-defined.
I think one of the reasons why Shani was dropped in TW2 is that at the time when the game was written, it was already known that there will be a trilogy and that Yennefer will come back. Which means if they planned to give a choice in the final game, it was much easier to focus on only one of the love interests from TW1, and give her at least some pre-defined relationship with Geralt. Why Triss over Shani ? I guess she better fit the story of TW2, it is more believable that she would want the witcher even after he begins to search for Yennefer and less believable that she would change her mind shortly after TW1, and not least she makes Yennefer more jealous.
Even if you do choose Shani in Witcher 1, it is a short relationship, which is broken up at Shani's choice shortly after the ending. While providing a consistent timeline is a problematic aspect of the games (as this recent example shows), one could very well imagine that Geralt was with Triss until and including the prologue of TW2 for a few months, even if it happened off-screen. Also, he says to Foltest in a conversation before the king is assassinated that what he wants as a reward for his services is to leave and settle down with Triss. Thus, even if you avoid it as much as possible, it is still a relationship more than just a one night stand. That is what the game is trying to show you with the scene in the tent in the prologue, and in the Foltest dialogue.
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Found this vid a few days ago, thought might aswel share it here:
Pretty nice edits.
Pretty nice edits.
Want to reply only to this, the comparison cannot really stand because the book is a book, you're reading a story, you cannot choose to shape yours unless you write a fanfic. A game is a game (rpg with choices and consequences). You don't start with predefined choices (from the books) that affect W1 plot anyway while W2 and W3 definitely do so when ignoring what you have chosen in the previous game (and not from the books).
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Who's disputing this? I mean, the games are obviously not a re-telling of the book events, they are a non-canonical sequel to the novels, I haven't seen anyone claiming otherwise. It's clear to me that when people write about lore-friendly playthroughs, canon Geralt and whatnot they mean "faithful to the books".
One can argue all of it was the Djinn and Geralt cursed them both by momentary infatuation. Seem like a very cynical take on romance to me.
I don`t understand this joke
Well Deus Ex had it`s .... nice moments. But it was an average game. Every game is an average game compared to Witcher 3.
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In the game they still love each other even after the Djinn is defeated. Therefore it must be true love (if the gamer makes this decision).
Let's put it this way: Deus Ex, Planescape Torment and The Witcher series are my "Holy Trinity" of video games. Regarding the original Deus Ex (and Human Revolution) - those games have some of the best stories I ever played, they raise some very interesting, thought-provoking questions without preaching the correct answers on them. Calling them "dumb games without the story" because they don't contain the romances is, well... making me react like that poor kid.
But, you are almost certainly right about CP2077 having romances, so nothing to fear there.Anyway, this was way off-topic, just wanted to clarify to you what I meant.
Exactly this. And there is a lore friendly (close to the canon of the books) play through.
But indeed let's get back on to the topic ^^
She wasn't aware of it.I wonder what Yen would think ( assuming he did it) Geralt took a vow in her namw during the tourney?